Yes, exactly! Flack chased him all over Manhattan in "All in the Family" and even in the end, he just didn't seem to get why Flack would want to help him like that. I've never really seen Lindsay's walls as insecurity in the same way I do Danny's--she just shuts people out because she doesn't want to get close to them. Fear of losing people she cares about, sure, but I think she also just thinks she can handle stuff on her own. Danny seems to know he can't, but doesn't feel anyone would or should want to help him. Yeah, there was definitely a strong bond between Danny and Aiden. It seemed pretty clear to me that they had a strong, established relationship when the show began, so much so that they could playfully flirt without either taking it wrong (though I do wonder if Aiden had stayed on the show, whether something might have developed there). I think losing Aiden contributed to Danny's damage--I think everything at the end of season two did. In a way, it was kind of what happened to Lindsay in that diner, because he lost or nearly lost three people close to him in quick succession. I think that messed him up, and in part explains why he was so clingy with Lindsay in season three. She didn't know at the time she wouldn't get that version of him back, so it seemed like that speech was an attempt to do that--and honestly, to make him pay for not turning to her. I keep getting stuck on the fact that if she'd really cared about him, she would have said some version of what Mac recommended in "Child's Play": "I'm not good at this kind of thing, but I do want to support you." Instead she accuses him of grieving on his own and tells him she has to get over being in love with him. Given all that he's going through, that's just cruel. Put it this way: I saw very little sensitivity for what he's going through or genuine care for him in that speech. Desperate to get back in her good graces or just eager to get her to drop the birthday issue. I definitely saw the latter, but I didn't sense groveling. I think he was defensive about it, actually. He made excuses--though really what he should have said was, "Geez, Lindsay, you know I didn't have a lot of shopping time in between grieving for Ruben and trying to keep his mother from killing the man she does hold responsible for his death." That might have been more effective, but again--communication, these two don't do it well. Or things she managed to make him think he was guilty of. This is Danny--criticize him and he'll take it and believe it. He was the same way in "On the Job" with the head-hanging--and Mac was a lot more justified. Grieving "all on his own"? Of course he did--she never reached out to him. Reducing her to a "shallow clingy girlfriend"? That's the image she herself presented when she complained about him forgetting her birthday. She should be mad at herself, but she directed the anger at Danny. I need to watch the ep again! Right after Mac said, "Fill Danny in." Didn't she say, "Here, read it yourself" or something like that? I just remember how unprofessional she was in that moment, how passive-agressive. I don't think he was so much reluctant as he was obviously just trying to do the right thing. It was still a sweet gesture with good intentions behind it. Granted, a bad idea, but still sincere and she owed him more than saying "no" and walking away. Definitely how she would have liked to be treated, but this is Danny and he's not like her--and until she makes an effort to understand that and allow for that the way he did with her, they're never going to be a good match. I think her yo-yoing set the tone for his, really. She pushed and pulled and pushed and pulled and then decided she wanted him--but by that point it seems he wasn't sure he still wanted her. Hard to blame him. But then she tells him she loves him and Danny sees the prospect of letting down/failing/not being good enough for someone who loves him so he decides to make an effort. Agreed, it did--and that all clearly made it okay for her. But not for Danny--he needed more. Again, I keep coming back to his massive insecurities. I think he was legitimately afraid she'd leave him and take the baby. Agreed, totally. They just don't have any trust or communication as a couple, which is why they're so wrong for each other. But I think Danny loves that baby and he loves the idea of them as a family. I think he's too insecure and damaged to really know whether he's in love with Lindsay or not, but I do think he married her in good faith, even if it comes from a place of insecurity and fear rather than healthy love. To me, "I don't like where you're going with this" (emphasis mine) made it clear. She just didn't get the hint and kept pushing. Well, what Lindsay did in "Silicone" was pretty funny--I think Flack can appreciate a good joke, even if he's the butt of it! Yeah, I think Flack's problem with Lindsay would have to do more with D/L than with her personally. I mean, he seems to find her somewhat annoying at times, but the jerking around of Danny would really get under his skin, and I think affect how he feels about her overall. But he's not going to say, "You're being mean to Danny!" because he figures that's Danny's battle to fight. That he's telling Danny that he should piss Lindsay off more often doesn't suggest the highest opinion of Lindsay, but I agree it says more about D/L than Lindsay herself. I definitely took that as a clear sign that Flack wasn't a fan of the relationship at that point. I doubt he is now, but I think he sees how happy Danny is about the baby and accepts that. More than anyone else in Danny's life, Flack really seems to just want to see Danny happy. I don't think it's downright "I hate you!" or anything nearly that extreme--I think sometimes he just finds her annoying. And she is kind of annoying sometimes. :lol: I think he gets in little digs that reflect that. No, I agree, but a crush is a crush--she knew he had feelings for her, and had shown her concern on many occasions. I think she knew she could get him to take the mother, and so she got him to do that. It felt very manipulative to me because she didn't just ask--she had a petulant, childish outburst and got him to do it based on that. It has been ages since I've seen "Crime & Misdemeanor" but didn't Danny ask Aiden to stay on the case? I actually do remember being annoyed with him for getting her to partake in something Mac wouldn't approve of--too much to ask of a friend, really. But Danny being wrong in C&M doesn't justify Lindsay being wrong in OH. And I doubt either Hawkes or Adam would have put up with her BS the way Danny did. Well, Adam maybe, but the way she treats Adam is a whole other issue!