Guys, we need to dial back on some of the comments about those on other messageboards. This isn't the place for that and I don't want to see any board wars starting here. Like was said above, it's best to ignore it than to bring it here. Thanks for your cooperation.
Sorry, it just ticked me off a bit what some people have said about Eddie when it's not even his fault.
I'll try to contain myself in the future.
There's definitely the possibility they may go too far with Jesse but so far, I'm encouraged. It also helps that the character seems rather subdued (in my eyes at least). He's had his super hero moments but I don't think they were over-the-top considering his line of work. Now if he starts defusing bombs left and right with zero experience and jumping off buildings to save people or something every week, I might get a bit annoyed.
lol jumping off buildings left and right? That reminds me of Colby Granger from Numb3rs! I swear all Colby did throughout Season 4 of Numb3rs was jumping off buildings, jumping into the bay, going down an elevator shaft, climbing a bridge, climbing the side of a house, or getting swept away by a raging water dam! We call him Super-Colby! LOL! Of course, we the Numb3rs audience certainly didn't mind him doing all the grunt work! We all enjoyed the moments of Whump!:guffaw:
Guess it's probably not the same with Jesse here.....I much prefer Jesse as the cute sweet decent humble guy who is kind to everyone! Hopefully he's not gonna don the tights and capes soon.....that one still belongs to Horatio Caine!
For some reason, I find myself way more accepting of Jesse, Walter and Tom than I ever was with Ryan. Maybe it's because Delko was never one of my favourites to begin with and I felt his character had sort of run its course so I was looking for something new and fresh, whereas with Ryan, I was frustrated with losing my favourite character who erm, didn't get the greatest sendoff. But even though I can say now that I enjoy the character of Ryan, I wish I had been a bit more open to him in the beginning, lol. I've kind of been on both sides of the penny so I definitely get the concerns on either side.
Either way, Jesse's sort of kick-started my interest in the show again so I'm going to remain optimistic about him.
I think all new characters get the harsh treatment from the fans when they first come aboard. I liked Ryan from the beginning, he just seem so small and with that puppy-dog face, I couldn't really be angry or mad, 'cause then I feel like I just kicked a puppy!:shifty: And I hate kicking puppies....
I have to say, Tim Speedle was the reason why I ever got into CSI:Miami, but then with his death I turned my sights on mocking this show that has become a caricature of what I used to love. I didn't really care much for Ryan either way, but I wasn't angry about it, I was more angry that Speed had to die.
With Jesse though, I feel like I found a new reason to watch this show, he reminds of Speed in a way, maybe a bit softer around the edges than Speed but still similar, and not to mention the guy's actually NORMAL! I've been missing the sense of normalcy in Miami so Jesse and Walter and the new ME Tom, they all bring that sense of freshness.
I've already said that I really like Jesse and I'm thrilled he's been added to the show. I think his introduction has been handled well and in every scene another team member has been included. So he's not been alone in his screen time and they haven't hooked him up with any one team member (although they are teaming him with Calleigh more and more and I'll admit I don't like that.).
I think that part of the problem is some of us have been waiting so long for our favorite characters to get their moment after they've been pushed back to allow for others to dominate. The focus for the last 3 seasons has been on Horatio and the Eric and Calleigh storyline. Ryan, Natalia, Frank and Rick have all taken a backseat. Some more than others. We've all tried to be patient and hoped that as soon as the Eric/Calleigh storyline cooled off a little our favorites would get a chance.
I still think that Jesse's time is not over-the-top. But I don't want to see the good will that TPTB have built up with the great introduction of his character wasted as people begin resenting him because he is getting significant time and those who have been ignored for three seasons are still seen very little. I think what we are hearing and seeing is disappointment - again. And it keeps happening and as a result the frustration level is rising.
Jesse is the new guy. So he is going to be the whipping boy. He gets blamed for replacing Eric, he gets blamed because others are still not getting the time they deserve ... yada, yada, yada. And NONE of it is his fault.
Believe me, I totally understand people's frustrations that their faves are being slighted for the new guy, I really do, I've been on that side of the line before, I know that feeling.
And like I said, I will gladly support the angry fans if Jesse's screentime gets out of control. I love Jesse, but I don't want him appearing so much that it is destroying the sense of others' characters. I want balance on my show, not a one-man show.
I just really don't like the fact that there are people that will resort to bad-mouthing and name-calling the actors behind the characters. Poor Eddie's been targeted way too many times than I can count, and it's just hard for me to stand it.
Hating the character is one thing, but making judgements about the actor is for me, crossing the line.
I'm just glad that on the soap opera show boards that I'm with, they at least have rules against insulting the actors.
You're right, BauerAlmeida, it's not the character's fault and it certainly isn't the actor's fault. It's the writers -- AGAIN! But to a lot of people the actor and the character simply cannot be separated. And the same holds true for an actor and his personal life. It sucks, it's wrong, but there it is. :scream:
I think some people needs to have reality check, maybe take a look in the mirror and see what kind of a person they've become.
Disheartening is an excellent word for it. But you do have to ignore them. It's the only way to survive in the online fan community. I have been trying for a long time to ignore that type of misinformed bad-will. For the most part I'm successful. Everyone once in a while I slip. The reason I watch the show is the individual most held up to ridicule and most attacked (and I'm thinking maybe one of the reasons you found a need to mock the show sometimes
). I was also a huge fan of The X-Files and David Duchvony. I was there when he was being crucified. It was insanity and the most hateful thing I've ever seen. Some fans can turn quite malicious when they feel they aren't getting what they want. Oh well...
I do try to ignore them, but sometimes, enough is enough for me.
I'm happy you've found a reason to enjoy the show.
I used to be a fan when Speed was alive, loved the guy, it totally killed me when he died, it's still a rather sensitive issue for me seeing him being gunned down like that. Since that moment, I didn't really care much for Miami because it had just become so cartoon-ish, a caricature of what I had come to love about the show, it just felt really weird, so I stopped watching and started mocking (of course never about Speed). But then Season 8 came along and Eddie/Jesse was introduced, I was able to find another character who had that sense of charisma that Speed had, Jesse was just normal, and it just gave me some hope that this show would come back to grounded reality. Of course, having Jesse and Speed being old friends was something I liked too!
I also enjoy the character and see a tremendous amount of potential with his addition to the show. This is my only experience with Eddie Cibrian as an actor and I'm very impressed. He's good and I'm glad that I withheld judgment and didn't listen to others.
As far as what is happening outside the show, it's his business and absolutely no one elses. No one is that pure that they have the right to judge another. That right has been reserved!
I love Eddie, he's such a soft-spoken guy, remember him from the soap opera days! I love the fact that he's just playing a normal guy with such sweetness!
And as for his personal life, well no one's a saint in this world, I'm not gonna go judge people for their private business.....I mean, unless it's murder or something that's a illegal crime, but I'm not gonna get all judgemental about someone's personal love life, that's their business.
