i watched season 1, and though Sara and Grissom had some nice, cute, flirty scenes together, Sara was flirting with just about everyone, nick i would say more so than Grissom in that first season. and Grissom asked that bones lady out to dinner, so apart from being good friends, and getting on well, i dont see that either of them, had a crush on each other then.
True. And it's possible that, as the new girl on the block, Sara didn't want everyone to feel like she and Grissom somehow had a special connection - she really seemed to want to independantly establish herself, rather than it just being "She's here because Grissom likes her".
I think the pig scene in Sex, Lies and Larvae, along with the "Tape Me Up" scene in Crate and Burial, though, went beyond simple flirting to a clear attraction with the desire from both of them, to go further. But I doubt they would have. And I think Grissom, just like Sara, didn't want everyone to think that she'd been recommended due to attraction rather than ability.
season 2 is confusing me big time though. they again, have some nice scenes in season 2, some cute flirty ones. and the first intimate one i noticed was her stoking his cheek outside. but Sara flirted with that guy Hank, and after that case with the two sisters, she rang and asked him out and ive read grissom finds out about this in season 3. Grissom in turn looks very preoccupied so far in season 2. she said she wished she was like him and felt nothing, and when she came in his office asking for a leave of absence, he kinda looked like he didnt understand why she was so upset, he just looked incapable of saying what he needed to say to make her stay. and then told catherine she was very emotional and wasnt even going to do anything about it. but in the next ep, when she asks him when hes ever been interested in beauty and he says since i met you. he says it so fast, and she looks shocked, but this seems to be the first encounter where he expresses some kind of interest towards sara. it seems weird though, cause i didnt notice a build up where he started acting like he was. and afterwards i noticed no change in how he was around her.
First off, I think that this was the point at which it was clear the writers themselves were not sure of whether they wanted to continue with GSR. But the actual line "Since I Met You" was ad-libbed by Billy, and never intended by the writers, however he liked it and thought it would have a much more honest impact than the original, which was some non-commital spouting about bugs, according to WP.
However, the other thing is that in Season 2, we see Grissom, I think, starting to look WAY older out of nowhere. The age difference between the two is far more pronounced, ironically, even moreso than in Seasons 4-7.
His hair is pretty much white in certain scenes and WP himself put on some weight.
So it's possible they were playing off of that - him backing off because the age difference is so apparent, and Sara not really understanding why.
After all, just about every time they interact in Season 2, it goes well. It wasn't until Season 3 that he seemed to start physically shutting off towards her, which may have partially had to do with Hank and the hearing loss.
i cant think when sara first has showed interest towards grissom. anyone???
Tape Me Up is probably the clearest indication, also the warm smile she gives when she wraps him in the blanket in SLL.
i know though that in season 3 when he finds out, he kinda seems a bit jealous, and then tells her on the next case to work solo. so he pushes her away from then on, throughout most of season 3. i dont understand why.
Sara dating Hank, I think, confirmed his fears. Sara would eventually grow bored waiting for him, and move on to a younger, fitter guy. Also, he found out about it through someone else - he got blindsided. You'll notice that a couple episodes on from there, he keeps trying to hold her arm, or place his hand on her back. Possibly to continue to establish that at work, she's still "his".
one theory i came up with was, that he had became increasingly interested in her, and when he found out she was kinda dating someone, he pushed her away, because he felt like what he felt was one sided, and she probably wasnt interested. or...*sigh* i dunno? opinions??
He knew she was interested, but he most likely assumed, just like Dr. Lurie did, that it was more of an infatuation. That the excitement of dating the boss, the guy with power, had more to do with it than the man himself. Or maybe he felt that she had pulled away when he got less physically attractive, making Sara shallow.
Grissom kind of seems to like torturing himself. He dates women who he has flirted with briefly, maybe more out of a sense of normalcy, and the women he actually seems genuinely attracted to, he pushes away - by arrest warrants or case delegations.
Maybe the old addage of his hoping that if he pushes them away, and they're still interested, that it means they truly like him. Who knows?
but another thing i couldnt stop thinking about, was how in later seasons he basically says some guys, we know hes talking about himself, are intimidated by beauty. when has he ever acted intimidated around sara? never. and in season two, he basically is saying, he thinks shes beautiful. and it got me thinking.
does he just think theres no chance of a relationship in earlier seasons and that she couldnt possibly be interested in him?
The intimidaton line... well, he is. He nearly choked when she asked if he would sleep with her, he seemed taken aback in the pilot when the lab tech told him to shove her against a wall...
While WP may know that women find him attractive, I don't think Grissom does, and if he does, I think he assumes they have ulterior motives in general. So he, perhaps, has found it easier to have dinner with women that he feels the same way about - they're attractive, but there's no real sense of commitment.
she is very beautiful, she could have any guy she wanted, half the guys there, i bet would jump at the chance to date her, so why does she choose the significantly older middle aged guy, whos lived half his life and is married to his job. what is it about him that shes drawn to?
I think for someone like Sara, who was treated badly in her childhood, who always felt like an outsider... I don't think she could date conventional people. Like Grissom dating Teri Miller, Hank was just a fun distraction for her. But I think they just get each other. They get that sense of wanting to stay in instead of going out dancing.
Of the real commitment to the job, which was the downfall of his relationships with Teri and Heather.
I think she just likes... him, though. And also - when she first met him, he was somewhat younger, somewhat thinner, and more attractive. For a lot of people, just because that person doesn't continue to look the same doesn't mean you just stop liking them.
why would it be a risk professionally? would he lose his job? i dont understand
He says "work" and I think that partially he IS talking about his job, but not 100%. Most of the reason people disliked that final scene was because they said it was SO out of character for Grissom. But the thing is... everyone accuses him of being shut-off, everyone accuses him of being cold, and yet he freaks out over a dead body... so we know he's not, actually, a robot.
I think what Grissom has worked so hard to do is kind of build a facade around himself. He can't get hurt if he doesn't show anything important about himself.
That final scene is probably the most open we've ever seen him, maybe with the exception of telling about his father's death, but even then it was very matter-of-fact.
That final scene showed that he does fear death, and that he's really put some thought into it. And that he can love, which is always nice.
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