Re: The Great Ship Debate
I want to just say first, Great Tyrant that I completely back you on just not "getting" chemistry with certain pairings.
For instance: I know a LOT of people who watch Law and Order SVU think that Mariska Hargitay's character and the other main character will get together. I don't see it. For me, they lack any kind of spark.
I'll also admit that Grissom and Sara don't have the kind of sexual chemistry that Grissom and Catherine or Grissom and Lady Heather (Lady Heather to a much deeper and greater degree) have or had.
But I think this is where the definition of chemistry becomes vague: even people who hated GSR knew there was tension in certain scenes. Maybe they didn't call it romantic, but it WAS tension. I think that no matter how you feel about the pairing itself, most people will agree that these two actors do do an interesting back-and-forth.
Some see it as Sara following Grissom, others see it as Grissom rejecting Sara, and so on, but it's still tense and it's still thick, and it's still there.
I don't think chemistry has to be specifically an "I missed your tush" "You can say stop" moment. Those are the most in-your-face and sexually obvious, but I don't believe that, in the long-run, that's all you should or even can have.
Now that's not a slam to the other two ships, because they have had other moments that weren't just, "I want your body".
But with Catherine and Grissom... I'll be honest: I thought the two actors had fantastic chemistry, I thought the dynamic was fun and flirtatious, but they never set off an alarm bell for me. I was never considering that TPTB or the characters would ever want to take things further than that.
So here's where my second argument comes in: Yes, it's a story by TPTB. Everything you see on CSI is a story by TPTB. So while I get not seeing chemistry, I think to dismiss a storyline entirely, saying it's somehow "not real" or "doesn't make sense" is a little bit... I don't know - it doesn't fly with me. If it's part of the show, then it is canon and it is fact.
Just like it's fact that Grissom wanted to be with Lady Heather at the end of Lady Heather's Box. I'm a GSR shipper, I don't support Kessom, but I will freely admit that that was something intentionally put in by the writers. I don't like it, nor do I think that that relationship would've been good for either of them, but it was part of the story that TPTB told about them, and so I accepted it.
So... while it may not be interesting, while it may not be fun, while it may totally go against what you were expecting, I've always been a big advocate of "If it's there, it's the truth".
I want to just say first, Great Tyrant that I completely back you on just not "getting" chemistry with certain pairings.
For instance: I know a LOT of people who watch Law and Order SVU think that Mariska Hargitay's character and the other main character will get together. I don't see it. For me, they lack any kind of spark.
I'll also admit that Grissom and Sara don't have the kind of sexual chemistry that Grissom and Catherine or Grissom and Lady Heather (Lady Heather to a much deeper and greater degree) have or had.
But I think this is where the definition of chemistry becomes vague: even people who hated GSR knew there was tension in certain scenes. Maybe they didn't call it romantic, but it WAS tension. I think that no matter how you feel about the pairing itself, most people will agree that these two actors do do an interesting back-and-forth.
Some see it as Sara following Grissom, others see it as Grissom rejecting Sara, and so on, but it's still tense and it's still thick, and it's still there.
I don't think chemistry has to be specifically an "I missed your tush" "You can say stop" moment. Those are the most in-your-face and sexually obvious, but I don't believe that, in the long-run, that's all you should or even can have.
Now that's not a slam to the other two ships, because they have had other moments that weren't just, "I want your body".
But with Catherine and Grissom... I'll be honest: I thought the two actors had fantastic chemistry, I thought the dynamic was fun and flirtatious, but they never set off an alarm bell for me. I was never considering that TPTB or the characters would ever want to take things further than that.
So here's where my second argument comes in: Yes, it's a story by TPTB. Everything you see on CSI is a story by TPTB. So while I get not seeing chemistry, I think to dismiss a storyline entirely, saying it's somehow "not real" or "doesn't make sense" is a little bit... I don't know - it doesn't fly with me. If it's part of the show, then it is canon and it is fact.
Just like it's fact that Grissom wanted to be with Lady Heather at the end of Lady Heather's Box. I'm a GSR shipper, I don't support Kessom, but I will freely admit that that was something intentionally put in by the writers. I don't like it, nor do I think that that relationship would've been good for either of them, but it was part of the story that TPTB told about them, and so I accepted it.
So... while it may not be interesting, while it may not be fun, while it may totally go against what you were expecting, I've always been a big advocate of "If it's there, it's the truth".
