The Great Ship Debate - CSI:Crime Scene Investigation

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I don't do threesome shippers, but I can do Love traingle. Like Grissom/Sara/Nick, Grissom/Catherine/Nick, Nick/Catherine/Warrick, (I do one relationship and one friendship.) Nick/Sara/Greg (I do one relationship and one friendship.)

I think it was joke when Grissom told Warrick about threesome. I don't think Grissom will do it with Greg or Nick or anybody on the men side.
 
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Actually, I think Grissom was being serious when he made the comment about the threesome. There's a clip of it on Omaetoy if you can't be bothered digging out your season 6. Grissom, being Grissom, probably has experimented in the past because it just seems to be the sort of person that he is. He experiences things in order to have a better understanding of them. Thus, I believe the threesome comment was serious and Grissom has been in one, and that Grissom most likely has also slept with a man.
 
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Oh the threesome. I have to say, being the multi-shipper that I am, I gave this a whirl. Specifically Nick/Greg/Sara. It was interesting. I mostly read love triangles now, like you NicknGrissom.

I guess I find it fascinating, really, how far fanfiction authors will go in deteriming what kind of kink these characters are in to! Personally, I can't see it happening with any one of them.

As per my example, Nick is a more traditional guy, as evidenced in Rashomama. (And being a Nick/Greg shipper, I'll clarify and say 'traditional' as in a relationship involving a "declaration of love" between just two individuals).

Greg I could maybe picture into that kind of kink, only because he seems to enjoy talking about that stuff during cases. Example being "Cats In The Cradle" when he's got on that silly vampire mask and talks about civet oil. Still, I think Greg is only talking about one partner, not two. . .

Sara, nah, really can't see her going there. I think she really believes in the honor and trust between two people involved in a relationship. Involving a third just complicates things and I think Sara tries to steer clear of complicated whenever she can! (you know, when the writers decide to leave her alone ;))
 
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EWWWW., a man,, I think not.. he's so straight, and so geeky.. that's off the wall, :eek: and a threesome.. no way.. he's never been interested in Cath that way, and from watching this show from the onset, her in him either, she's so gutsy, if she wanted him, she would had of made that clear in the first episode . and LH, either..attraction.. intrigue and fascination yes.. but that's it!! MY OPINION ;) the writers have now shown two bedroom scenes with him and his gal Sara, so it look's like their doing pretty damm good in that department! :p he makes many random comments, that probably don't mean jack..s..t just likes to hear himself ramble.. and he's so profound. and likes that his team listens to his theories.. doesn't mean he's involved in everything he says!
 
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Grissom use to be interested in Catherine from the beginning 'till fifth season. He was disappointed in her about taking her daughter to the morgue (I don't know the name of the episode.) She could explained to her daugther instead taking her to the morgue. Lindsey will have nightmare to see the dead body.

Grissom like women, not men. He ask Terri out on a date and it didn't do well. Grissom went out to drink with Catherine and Lady Heather, well in LH's house.

I can't understand why can't he go out with Sara from the beginning when she ask him out and he said, no. If he just explained it to her, why he said no, because he have that ear surgery. She would have understand why he said no, but he didn't explained and she was hurting that he turn her down. Now, he finally got the courage to ask her out, probably either Nesting Dolls or Graves Danger. I would said Nesting Dolls, he went out with her. He took a long time to come back to the lab. He finally show up at the end. I think they got together since Graves Danger. It was Nick to push them together, hey, I'm taking a guess here, desertwind.

Remember desertwind, I'm with you about Grissom with Heather, eww.
 
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T-4-2 is a very credible ship. If you wish to discuss evidence, all you need look at is Lady Heather's Box. The kiss ended up on the cutting room floor, but we have the lead up to the kiss on the balcony, and later they cut to Grissom and Heather having 'morning tea'. Many hours have passed, Grissom clearly spent the night, we know they were about to kiss, and Gil is still wearing the same clothes.

And, of course, there is the obvious pain Heather experiences when Gil makes her a suspect. He could easily have asked her, but instead he jumped straight to the conclusion she did and rang for a warrant - she would have clearly given him her diabetic supplies. Then we have the ending scene when Grissom drives up to Heather's and chickens out of going to see her - regret.

I really do believe Gil and Heather slept together that night, but Grissom blew it. As usual. He did the same thing with Teri, and very nearly with Sara. As Heather told him, Grissom fears being known, and a relationship would open him up to that. It took Butterflied for him to confess to himself he liked Sara. And with Lady Heather, his attraction was shown through his actions, which spoke very loudly.

Hence why the next episode of CSI will be interesting and I can't wait til we can discuss it here. Sara knows Grissom slept with Heather (he probably told her), which leads to the awkwardness discussed in the epsiode summary. Yet another reason why I am sure Grissom slept with Heather.
 
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OK, you thnk he did. I don't think so.. and according to WP, it never happened, and lets say it did> must not have been that great, because they never saw each again for 3 years, care to explain that? beings they both live in Vegas.. and was 4 friggin' years ago.. they've both so moved on HELLO.. you'll all be very surprised at this ep. "TGTBATD' it's so not what you anticipate or think or want.. quite the contrary.. I'm just smugly smiling and waiting for the backlash ;) lets just say GSR will be tighter than ever!~~~smiling~~and he does blow it with women.. LH, he took her down to be interogated, and Terri, left her to go to a crime scene.. but guess who waited for him, through thick and thin.. HMMM, and she got him.. I'd wait for him too :p
 
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I have to agree with desertwind. I remember what WP said in the interview, he did not sleep with Lady Heather, all you see he is in the same clothes, he has got on the day before.
 
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desertwind said:
OK, you thnk he did. I don't think so.. and according to WP, it never happened, and lets say it did> must not have been that great, because they never saw each again for 3 years, care to explain that? beings they both live in Vegas.. and was 4 friggin' years ago.. they've both so moved on HELLO.. you'll all be bery surprised at this ep. "TGTBATD' it's so not what you anticipate or think or want.. quite the contrary.. I'm just smugly smiling and waiting for the backlash ;) lets just say GSR will be tighter than ever!~~~smiling~~and he does blow it with women.. LH, he took her down to be interogated, and Terri, left her to go to a crime scene.. but guess who waited for him, through thick and thin.. HMMM, and she got him.. I'd wait for him too :p
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First and foremost, think before you post. Most of your reply was downright rude and sarcastic. Try to be a bit more tactful.

Secondly, each actor has their own opinion. WP admitted that he doesn't think they did, but he also said that it doesn't matter what he thinks, it what the writers and fans think.

Thirdly, I never said they hadn't moved on. Grissom obviously has, and what he did to Heather - making her a suspect - was unforgivable. In all honesty sleeping with Heather was one of the many steps he needed to take in order to be with Sara. Heather knew him, and he had to become comfortable with someone doing that.

And lastly, I wasn't attacking GSR, and I don't like the way many GSR fans seem to attack anyone who is open to Grissom or Sara being with or having been with other people. After all, remember Hank. Sara too had to take a journey before she could be with Grissom. And GSR is canon. There is no denying it, and no need to become defensive. You can't argue against it.

I still believe Grissom slept with Heather, and that is simply my interpretation of that episode. Everyone has their own opinion, their own views and beliefs, and thus see things in different ways.
 
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desertwind said:
OK, you thnk he did. I don't think so.. and according to WP, it never happened, and lets say it did> must not have been that great, because they never saw each again for 3 years, care to explain that? beings they both live in Vegas.. and was 4 friggin' years ago.. they've both so moved on HELLO..
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Well, you don't have to yell. Caps mean yelling. italics mean to emphasize a word. I know this discussion gets heated in here, but I'd like to try and prevent an all out war if I can. ;)

As for LH and Gris? I still think they got it on. Haha. For the same reason most think he didn't, I still think the 'wearing the same clothes the next morning' is the obvious clue. I know, I know. He could've just spent the night, but honestly, given the context that just sounds silly to me. Just my opinion.
 
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Well honestly...I think Grissom has a strong attraction to LH, and always will. I think Grissom respects her as a woman, but also realizes that dating her would never work. For starters, their work lines are polar opposites and their relationship would just get too complicated. If he did end up having a relationship with LH, I think it would remain a hidden secret simply because LH is sort of a big conflict of interest for him. Isn't it ironic that Sara is too, except differently. I guess in a sense thats why I'm not really concerned with GSR...I don't think they will work either. Especially since they will be outed soon. It will become to complicated, not to mention I'm sure he's breaking policy since he is of course her supervisor. Granted one of them could switch to a different shift, and possibly that would work. But the lack of distance these to have...is what I consider to be unhealthy. JMHO!
 
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gsrLOVE said:
I don't ship threesomes on CSI. I can't picture Grissom having any sexual relationship with Greg, either. Grissom could've experimented with threesomes in his earlier days or something.. But, I just don't see Grissom doing that :eek:
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The actual thought of Grissom having sex in the first place is kinda... disturbing. I always kinda saw him as a monk. No sex at all. My friends and I for awhile even speculated he was still a virgin ;)

But the actual thought of Grissom having sex...male or female... *finds a place to throw up in* :rolleyes:

I'm gonna hide behind my own ship. This has gone far enough for me :D
 
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NicknGrissom said:
I have to agree with desertwind. I remember what WP said in the interview, he did not sleep with Lady Heather, all you see he is in the same clothes, he has got on the day before.
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Yes he did, but on the audio commentary by Anthony e.Zuiker, Richard J Lewis, Naren Shankar and Josh Berman, at least one of them said that they spent the night together, if my memory serves me well. They mention the fact that William Petersen kept saying the contrary, and they say, laughing something like "if he wants to believe it...". So, as they give us different points of view I think it's up to the fans to believe it or not. I choose to believe that they spend the night together. ;)
 
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Regarding Gil and Lady Heather. She was majorly pissed at him for considering her a suspect and not believing her. They run in different circles and unless they looked for each other, I could not see them intentionally running into each other. Las Vegas is a huge city and has millions of people there.

Regardless of whether they slept together or not (I believe they did) it was before the whole GSR thing started going and neither one was exactly celibate before they got together.

I find the chemistry between Gil and Lady Heather interesting. It is kind of like an addiction for Gil. Something that he knows is bad for him, but something that he can't do without....

Just my 2 cents.
 
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