Speed/Rory #13: 'Who Needs Substance D, When We Have Speed'

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  1. SincerelyInDenial

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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    Well, I wouldn't have that's for sure. :lol:

    But if I absolutely had to...I'm partial to what was done on L&O:SVU (and what was done to H's brother, Ray), which was have him infiltrate some whacked-out organization that way he can "leave" for the time being but it also keeps the door open to the possibility of him returning.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    ha i agree with you.

    i would have definitely left the door open for him to possibly come back. maybe had him have to leave miami for who knows what and go to another state or something just because i would definitely wouldn't kill him off. i think that whole thing was done to boost ratings, just because they had the opportunity but whatever.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    It seems most of us are in agreement with 'Speedism Preservation Society' as the thread title. :)

    We can, of course set up a poll later on just to make sure no one's missing out though. ;)

    Exactly! I would have liked to see something a little more diverse than a shot to the heart. Yeah, okay it's the most simple way to kill someone off and it's not AS messy as say, getting eaten by a croc, but it's been done far too often, as MacsGirlMel stated.

    Makes me wonder what's wrong in the writing department at CSI:Miami. :rolleyes:

    Even if they were short on time writing the episode for the season 3 premier, there are much more diverse ways of departing a character. They didn't kill Megan off when Kim Delaney left the show. They didn't kill Yelina off.

    Like MGM :)lol: Okay now I'm thinking about the MGM building) said, they could have had Speed too injured to come back to work. Perhaps he could have gotten shot in the chest, but survived. It's much more sugar coated for the audience, and it brings in a possibility of Speed's return.

    Writers usually 'kill' off a character so the actor doesn't beg to be let back into the contract. It's more of a legal tactic, not just a way of torturing the audience or punishing the actor for wanting to leave.

    They sort of did the same with Speed. Calleigh lied to Stetler about Speed's gun, and during the locker room scene with Horatio, they both kind of passed off the file as 'Gun malfunction' and nothing else. They're right, it would be speculation so they have to leave it there (Nice loophole huh? :p) BUT the audience in a way knows that it was Speed's fault a second time. - Making it great for continuity.

    ...Though it still sucks. :lol:

    I would have had him die saving little Joey. Instead of having Horatio jump in the water to grab him, they could have tracked down that 'Karate teacher' and when Speed and Horatio pulled up, the guy would have had a gun. Then maybe the kid wasn't in the water, and ran while the killer's attention was diverted. Thus Speed running in front of him, the guy shoots the gun, Speed shoots the gun, Horatio shoots the gun, killer dies, gets eaten by crocs, kid is saved and Speed bites the proverbial dust.

    So in the end, Speed would have been seen as the hero, and the viewers wouldn't be left with a bad taste in their mouths. It also brings a lot to the next episodes, where Horatio would have felt guilty for not saving him, and wondering if there was more he could have done (Which will have contrasted Speed's feelings - wishing he could have saved Hollis - in 'Dispo Day')

    :lol: It seems I'm different than the rest, I wouldn't have left the possibility of his return...Which is dumb of me, but if that's the way I was going to kill him, that's what I would have done.

    If I wanted to leave the door open, I'd go with him getting shot, and not dying, but in the hospital.

    Yeah, and I think that was a terrible thing to do. They knew they'd get ratings. It was a stepping stone to becoming the 'World's Most Popular Show', IMO. It's too bad character death had a part in that.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    oh i like your scenario abotu him saving the little oy. so much better than what actually happened! you should be a writer for the show!
    and your right about him keeping his dignaty i loved how they had calleigh cover it up a bit so that he wouldn't have a bad name through the department.
    i just really wished we had gotten more of eric reactions, thats like the other thing i really hated about the episode. they were great friends and they didn't show what it meant to eric. maybe they did the rest of season 3(i still haven't watchedmost of it) but they had the emotions from everyone but eric it just kinda of sucked
     
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    I agree, if he absolutely had to die (as opposed to just leave the show) he should have died saving that poor little boy. But preferably, he should have been given the opportunity to come back. I mean, Rory even said that he would come back and do guest appearences. Stupid writers. Freakin Ann Donahue.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    I like your version Geni. I just hate the way it went down... seriously, there were so many creative ways to kill him off. Oh well, can't change things.

    Speaking of Miami being soap opera-ish, when "Curse of the Coffin" aired, I half expected the ghost of Speedle past to show up, haha. It's been done on some soaps I used to watch way back when.

    Nice pictures Ashley. I love the first one - he's got that sexy bed-head look going on.

    Oh and I'm casting my ballot for Speed/Rory #14: Speedism Preservation Society. :)
     
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    :lol: If I was a writer for the show, it would be season two every year. :p

    Thanks. :)

    And yeah, there were so many things they could have done, which is the frustrating part. *sigh*

    Great pictures Ashley, thanks for sharing! I love the bed-head one. :D For some reason, I don't remember his hair ever being that thick and huge. :lol: Was that cap from 'The Oath' perhaps? That's the only episode I remember him being scruffier than usual.

    And erm, in that second picture....He really needs to lose the hat. :lol: Don't get me wrong, I loved all the stupid hats from say, 'The Last Don'. In fact, he should wear more of those, but that hat there is just ugly. :p
     
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    actually i don't really know what episode that cap is from :lol: but i like his hair all volumous and messy like that.
    i love that hat <3 i just love when he wears hats in general they look oh so yummy on him.he should not be a tease and where them. does he know what they make me want to do to him??
    gun porn anyone?
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    Thank you. :D

    Here's something kind cool...I got an email today from amazon.com telling me I could preorder the 'A Scanner Darkly' dvd. ;) Which I would so totally do if I weren't using most of my spare cash for Christmas gifts. *tends to go overboard w/ her shopping* I will get it soon after though.

    And since everyone seems to like it, why don't we just go ahead and go with:

    Speed/Rory #14: Speedism Preservation Society

    for the thread title and skip the poll this time. Unless anyone would like a poll, if so please speak up and we'll get one set up.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    Hoorah for a new thread title! :)

    I asked for ASD for Christmas, but I don't think my sister has a clue what I'm even talking about, haha. I also found out that my friend is getting me Love & a .45 for Christmas.

    ETA: I'm sure there has been someone who has seen Love & a.45 here... would anyone care to share their opinion?

    It seems as if I'm going to have a Rory themed holiday.
     
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    wow I guess I started something lol. Thanks for letting me spark some discussion.

    One of my other fave shows did have a char go undercover...that's not a bad storyline if they hadn't already had Ray doing it...but I wouldn't go for their idea of the real char going undercover while another char steps into the undercover guy's old life. Due South is what that was btw. I really like the injury one best, my first suggestion.
     
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    I'm all for the new thread title. :D

    Jenn, I hope you're able to purchase 'A Scanner Darkly'. :) I'll be getting mine when it comes out on DVD for sure. :D

    I happen to have seen it many times. :)

    My first impression of the movie is that it's very casual in the way the characters are presented. It pretty much starts out quickly, but doesn't reveal all the characters right away. (An interesting tidbit of info: The young store clerk is played by Wiley Wiggins, who plays Mitch on 'Dazed and Confused) The characters are developped well, the story is intriguing, and all characters have an important role in the development of the plot.

    Rory's acting is phenomenal. (If we wanted to see him as a homicidal maniac, this would be the film) He portrays his character well throughout the movie, and even though his role is fairly large, his main appearances are scattered throughout the movie as more of a subplot, but adding to the central theme of the movie with the other characters.

    Plus, it's hilarious. ;)

    Although the movie might not be everyone's cup of tea, because it is odd at first, it takes a while for the movie to grow into something other than another weird Indie film. I quite enjoyed it, and if I was going to rate it, I'd give it 6.5 cows out of 10. :)

    ^ MacsGirlMel, is 'Due South' the show about those Canadian RCMP? :lol: Because I think I've seen the episode you're referring to.
     
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    Yeah that's the one,S_C.
     
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    Re: Speed/Rory #8: 'Who Needs Substance D When We Have Spe

    i'd agree with everything Geni said, except i'd give it about a 7.5 ;) i just love his lil southern accent hes rocking in that movie
     
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