nattybatty55
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Ok guys just popped in to say Merry Christmas and I hope all your dreams of Mac come true :devil:
PS Jools I hope you get what you desire :devil:
PS Jools I hope you get what you desire :devil:
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So, what do you guys like about Mac, aside from that he's hot? For e.g. one thing I love about him is that he really cares about and believes in protecting innocent people - for example he spoke in 'The Closer' about all the innocent people who died on 9/11, and then in What You See he seemed really bothered by the murder of that creep's mother. There are lots of other eps too where we see how much he hates it when innocent people are hurt/killed, and how he tries to help them - like he did with that woman in Night, Mother. Talking about Night Mother, another thing I like about Mac is the way he can see evidence in different contexts. In that ep, at first the evidence suggested the woman had killed that other woman, and Flack was all ready to put her away, but Mac was able to see past what the evidence first said, and realize she was innocent. I liked how he trusted his gut on that one. I think as the seasons have progressed, Mac's learned that trusting his gut instincts, something he's previously criticized other members of the team i.e. Danny for, is sometimes a good thing.
Fruitbat said Well I agree with the whole Night Mother ep.
Another insight in Mac’s character was “Oedipus Hex” We see at the end of the ep how much this affected Mac the waste of human life the senseless death of an innocent man trying to turn his life around. We see when Stella comes in to help Mac pack away the evidence that she knows how much it has affected her partner and friend.
Another example is “Officer Blue” his end comments to the shooter leave us in no doubt about how Mac feels.
I don’t understand the ones that say Mac is cold, I wonder sometimes if they are watching the same show as myself.
Also, Mac says to Beaumont 'You know, you had something Mr Beaumont. Something that a some of us who suddenly lost a loved one never had. Time. Time to make the most of what was left. That's what's precious.' He's obviously referring to his own loss of Claire, and though I think he probably sympathizes with the doctor's frustration at being unable to save his sick wife, he can't understand why he would try to save her by stealing a liver which both endangers someone else's life and puts him at risk of losing the precious last weeks/months/years of his wife's life
I liked how he trusted his gut on that one. I think as the seasons have progressed, Mac's learned that trusting his gut instincts, something he's previously criticized other members of the team i.e. Danny for, is sometimes a good thing.
Good point. I agree that Mac does struggle to connect with victims families because their pain brings back memories of 9/11. He genuinely feels for them, but doesn't know what to say or do for them, so throws himself into the cases and gets them solved as a way of helping them. He's not the kind of CSI who sits down and talks to and comforts them like say Stella or Horatio do - (Stella particularly does it with abused women after her experience with Frankie and Horatio with kids). But I love that Mac sometimes does manage to reach out to them and connect - he does with the coma victim in Blink, with the deaf woman in Silent Night, and with the kid's father in Supply and Demand. When Mac makes these connections, you really sit up and take notice, because he doesn't do it as often as other characters do. I also agree that this is an integral part of Mac's character, and it's a part I find really interesting and that I like in him. We have a very openly emotional, heart-on-his sleeve character in Danny. Mac is different, and I like that. But I wonder whether if he finally got some closure on Claire, if her remains were found, he would find it easier to connect more with grieving relatives. It would be interesting to see that happen. I do think that since s1 we have seen Mac open up and connect more with people, most noticeably Reed. I really hope we get more Reed next season, like Peyton, he opens up Mac, and I think also that Mac has learnt about connecting with people through his relationship with Reed - it was MAC who first reached out and tried to make a connection in their first meeting in the diner, and that's a big thing for Mac.nattybatty55 said:
Also, Mac says to Beaumont 'You know, you had something Mr Beaumont. Something that a some of us who suddenly lost a loved one never had. Time. Time to make the most of what was left. That's what's precious.' He's obviously referring to his own loss of Claire, and though I think he probably sympathizes with the doctor's frustration at being unable to save his sick wife, he can't understand why he would try to save her by stealing a liver which both endangers someone else's life and puts him at risk of losing the precious last weeks/months/years of his wife's life
I think that's a good point about Mac. I think that even though he tries his best to talk to grieving reletives he finds in difficult. Some people say that if you experience something yourself it is easier to help others when they are confronted with the same thing. However in mac's situation I think when he sees people who have lost a loved one it brings back all the memories of 9/11 so he closes off and finds it hard to connect. I think that the way cases effect him are a large part of his character and without those little scenes where we can see the emotion in his eyes, Mac as we know him wouldn't be there.
I liked how he trusted his gut on that one. I think as the seasons have progressed, Mac's learned that trusting his gut instincts, something he's previously criticized other members of the team i.e. Danny for, is sometimes a good thing.
Another good point. Mac does seem to be learning that he can both work by the rules AND on instinct, and to trust his instinct (like in Sweet 16), and be careful to control it (Past Imperfect) and to trust others' instincts (he trusts Hawkes' feeling that Ryan Elliot isn't guilty in Live or Let Die.)I think that is another good development in Mac's character. However I think now he is beginning to act on instict rather by the rules so to speak it's starting to get him in trouble. Like in 'Past Imperfect' because the case effected him the way it did, he ended up getting in trouble with Sinclair. So even though he realises he has to follow instinct he knows that he has to control what he does which I think he has done quite well in season 4.