Aww, Lucy. *loves* ..Aanyway, as I KEEP SAYING - I have no sheep. There are no sheep in this city. Yes, note the word 'city'. The last time I saw a sheep I was in IRELAND. Ahem.
...And no I don't mean saw as in I was "seeing" it. DAMN IT.
Much like CK (Clark Kent) moonlights as Superman, Sara moonlights as LH (Lady Heather). There is NO other way to explain Sara's disappearences whenever she turns up, or Grissom's strange attraction to her. *shifty eyes*
My guess would be it's because she doesn't feel comfortable actually doing interrogations, so she often hangs out and watches. She's not especially socially adept, so she probably would rather stand in the wings whilst her coworkers take on the "human aspect" of the job. I think it's often the same case with Grissom, although he's been at it so long that he's developped an ability to plow on and do it anyway.
Heh. "There will be no plowing!!". NAME THAT MOVIE. (And feel free to be horrified at the fact you wrote Grissom and 'plow' in the same sentence when that euphemism exists)
(We used to play that game all the time. Why did we stop? Or, wait...was it me and Sar who played it? D: EVERYTHING IS SO LONG AGO TO ME)
But no, you're right. It makes sense. She's still interrogation stalker 4 life, though.
He certainly was. Hung out with Nick in the college AV lab, which was where Nick saw the frat boys covering up the cameras, one of them pushing their hand against a wall for leverage (not like that!) which gave him the idea to print one of the hallways walls.
yeah, wanted to say the same thing, cuz the last episode i watched was Chaos Theory, and i spotted Archie there. with a different nametag, but he still was a computer/video surveilence person. so i'm able to believe it's the same guy. after all he doesn't have a dopple ganger who worked in a zoo and is in prison for life right now.
My guess would be it's because she doesn't feel comfortable actually doing interrogations, so she often hangs out and watches. She's not especially socially adept, so she probably would rather stand in the wings whilst her coworkers take on the "human aspect" of the job. I think it's often the same case with Grissom, although he's been at it so long that he's developped an ability to plow on and do it anyway.
yeah, like Grissom or Catherine are always at Doc's. when was the last time Sara went there? like Cool Change or something? lol
Much like CK (Clark Kent) moonlights as Superman, Sara moonlights as LH (Lady Heather). There is NO other way to explain Sara's disappearences whenever she turns up, or Grissom's strange attraction to her. *shifty eyes*
I think that sara avoids doing interrogations cause she knows that she can be very emotional and that could minor her credibility in workmatters. So she prefers to remain in the back and to watch before setting any actions. But I would like her to get more in touch with the human issues because I think that she has a big heart on the one hand and can be though and rough if its necessary. BTW She is VERY smart and intelligent. I would also recommend Grissom to get more in touch with people too, maybe they could do some interrogations together.
About LH: If sara and hat would meet I think they wouldnt feel comfortable with eachother, not only because of grissom but because they are totally different. I guess sara would very much dislike hat for her attidude torwards people. She is very dark, synical and I think; completely out of hope that this world is a good place to be. Sara has also experienced a lot of bad things but she has still hope in her heart cause dating grissom is NOT an easy job, although he IS very fascinating and sexy, and she sees something inside him others maybe never regognized. I feel that sara and hat have a complete opposite view of the world and both are intelligent and will see what the otherone really thinks.
are you suggesting they had in mind to uncover GSR that early? cuz, practically, if Ecklie knows - everybody knows. i cannot see him keeping the secret.
Uncover to the audience? Yes and no. The Bite Me scene definitely hinted at something going on, and then a couple episodes down, Grissom and Sara were just going to wordlessly share a hotel room. I think they would've more obviously toyed with us all year if that had happened, but the reveal itself would've remained constant.
and that's their insurance policy. now, when i'm thinking about it, maybe when Grissom started to feel secure in his job (also after ND) he saw that now, even if they had basis to fire him, they just won't do that. why? b/c he's got sheriff on his side, and b/c Ecklie's carrier depends also on Grissom's performance. what if Grissom, a person who doesn't get politics at all, finally understood, that even if their relationship is uncovered, he won't be fired b/c of many various political reasons? if this is the case "Gil, be more politic" and "lift your head out of the microscope" are the golden Cath - advices that he finally adopted, and the two out of more reasons he decided to get into relationship with sara.
Grissom's speech at the end of Nesting Dolls showed that while he might not like playing the game, he still knows how. Until Sara helped Catherine, the only real ally she had, or to clarify, the only person with clout that she had was Brass. And Brass wouldn't necessarily be able to save her job.
Ecklie, I think, has a crush on Catherine. No, he didn't give her mornings, but he still gave her a raise, and when he split up the teams, he put her in charge even though Nick would've been the more likely choice before the lack of funding happened in the key position job.
I'm not saying either one of them would've made a better supervisor, just that Nick's name had already been in a previous ballot for a similar sort of thing.
So I think that if Catherine, the one person who would probably take over Grissom's job, stands up for Sara, he's a little stuck. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the team, however much surprised, would probably stand up for them as well.
So Sara, without Grissom, was where the problem had been before.
I must now go to the dinner and wine tasting soiree that my wine club is having. *Frasier face*
*sigh*. What's scarier - that thought, or the fact that chances are the Tom WILL guest star on CSI at some point?
He certainly was. Hung out with Nick in the college AV lab, which was where Nick saw the frat boys covering up the cameras, one of them pushing their hand against a wall for leverage (not like that!) which gave him the idea to print one of the hallways walls.
It's kind of like saying to someone "Don't think of apples". They're gonna think of apples, even if they totally weren't before. And if they try thinking of anything else, it'll be totally forced.
No, I get what you mean. Even when dropping off the food, you could see that the two got a kind of black excitement out of being so blatant behind Warrick's back - especially the little smile that Grissom gives when Warrick mumbles, "Where's the love?"
But in a larger room? Never would've happened. Time of Your Death seemed to be more like them going, "Oh my God. A complete stranger figured it out and our trained co-workers are clueless. This is kind of funny."
Well, that, and... "Hey, do we know how sturdy the table is? Because I'd like to have sex with you on it."
Kind of like Rashomama, focussing on the different perceptions, in a way. The extra things each character noticed that we wouldn't have seen in a regular episode.
Right. I liked how Grissom and Brass were polar opposites - Brass was constantly looking off to the side, checking out the area, Grissom remained focused on anything that could tell him more about the bride. Jewlery seeming to be a big factor - maybe him insinuating that he thought she might be a gold digger.
To be honest, I wouldn't. I would become more paranoid by doing so, and I wouldn't be able to handle not telling him afterwards and the mistrust and blahdeblah.
Now that I think about it, you do tend to see her in that room a heck of a lot (even if she's with other people, like Nick in Gum Drops, or Grissom in the latest episode...just off the top of my head) I wonder if we looked over all the episodes and counted the number of times we saw each character in there...she'd almost certainly come out on top, lol.
My guess would be it's because she doesn't feel comfortable actually doing interrogations, so she often hangs out and watches. She's not especially socially adept, so she probably would rather stand in the wings whilst her coworkers take on the "human aspect" of the job. I think it's often the same case with Grissom, although he's been at it so long that he's developped an ability to plow on and do it anyway.
Excellent point. I think that's something Sara and Grissom definitely have in common - Grissom routinely proves how much he can get from someone just by their body language, but he also stresses that "people lie". I think Sara feels the same way, though she's been less vocal about it.
Remember that shot of Sara and Grissom in the interrogation room? Was that last week?
I got a free pen with a built in blue flashlight at my wine club soiree tonight. Seriously, yo. It has the vinyard that sponsored the evening's logo on it.. and it GLOWS A BLUE LIGHT. I'm so gonna like, run it over sheets and couch and stuff to look for blood and semen.
Heh. "There will be no plowing!!". NAME THAT MOVIE. (And feel free to be horrified at the fact you wrote Grissom and 'plow' in the same sentence when that euphemism exists)
In other news, your avatar is weirding me out. He looks like he's about to yell at me in a thick Brooklyn accent and call me a "broad".
BTW She is VERY smart and intelligent. I would also recommend Grissom to get more in touch with people too, maybe they could do some interrogations together.
Sorry, this is a little OT in the begining, but I also think that Ecklie has a crush on Catherine (he has his arm on the back of her chair in Nestling Dolls) and that she probably knows he has. She seems to be one of the few that can handle him and hasn't Marg said that Catherine probably won't have a problem with Grissom and Sara being a couple(in Burden of Prof she's actually telling Grissom to do something for Sara), so I think if Catherine is probably on their side if there's going to be any problem with Ecklie.
I do believe Adzix is going to kill me now, people. So goodbye. I love you all.
sarahvma said:
Ecklie, I think, has a crush on Catherine. No, he didn't give her mornings, but he still gave her a raise, and when he split up the teams, he put her in charge even though Nick would've been the more likely choice before the lack of funding happened in the key position job.
I'm not saying either one of them would've made a better supervisor, just that Nick's name had already been in a previous ballot for a similar sort of thing.
They never would have made Nick a supervisor (at that/this stage). Yes, he was going to have been in a key position job, but even with that, Catherine has always been more senior than him. I'm sure you must know this. Otherwise, wouldn't you have found it strange she didn't get the key position?
But I agree that Ecklie probably has wild fantasies of Cath reliving her stripper days with/for him.
So I think that if Catherine, the one person who would probably take over Grissom's job, stands up for Sara, he's a little stuck. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the team, however much surprised, would probably stand up for them as well.
Agreed. He would probably have a "Bitch, I thought we had an agreement?!" moment like he did with Sofia in Mea Culpa when she told Ecklie Grissom had done no wrong.
*sigh*. What's scarier - that thought, or the fact that chances are the Tom WILL guest star on CSI at some point?
Makes sense you'd think that, I guess. But note the name badge Oh, and the ugly campus security uniform. But yeah, as Adz mentioned it's kinda cool that in his random guest role he was into A/V stuff as well - didn't have to make that transformation from maid to cop (or whatever it was) that you were talking about.
...Not that maids can't become cops. Didn't mean to crush anyone's dreams there.
While it may be stuffed with goose or duck down, it's still made of cotton.
No, I get what you mean. Even when dropping off the food, you could see that the two got a kind of black excitement out of being so blatant behind Warrick's back - especially the little smile that Grissom gives when Warrick mumbles, "Where's the love?"
But in a larger room? Never would've happened. Time of Your Death seemed to be more like them going, "Oh my God. A complete stranger figured it out and our trained co-workers are clueless. This is kind of funny."
Right. I liked how Grissom and Brass were polar opposites - Brass was constantly looking off to the side, checking out the area, Grissom remained focused on anything that could tell him more about the bride. Jewlery seeming to be a big factor - maybe him insinuating that he thought she might be a gold digger.
Excellent point. I think that's something Sara and Grissom definitely have in common - Grissom routinely proves how much he can get from someone just by their body language, but he also stresses that "people lie". I think Sara feels the same way, though she's been less vocal about it.
True. But I also think Grissom's feelings on this, his mentoring, and her own experience, has swayed Sara more towards this over the years (that is, she didn't used to be as much that way as she is now). Like their moment with the "you think you know someone/I never do" thing? She's changed a lot since then.
Remember that shot of Sara and Grissom in the interrogation room? Was that last week?
Yes. From when Sven fainted the first time (or possibly off his "I always faint at the sight of blood" explaination) I believe. ...and now I feel weird having this in spoiler tags
Oh, and as for the poll? My Sacklie shipper heart voted for the first option (And the second option seems a little too echoey of the George/Jorja firing debacle)
Uncover to the audience? Yes and no. The Bite Me scene definitely hinted at something going on, and then a couple episodes down, Grissom and Sara were just going to wordlessly share a hotel room. I think they would've more obviously toyed with us all year if that had happened, but the reveal itself would've remained constant.
no, i meant more like uncover it to the CSI's. b/c if Secrets and Flies were supposed to directly have a GSR continuity, it would most probably be a uncovered-GSR-needs-help-from-a-sheriff plot. so if, S&F was purposefully made to be later regarded to GSR, it's the only plot that comes to my mind. therefore, if that was the case, they planned GSR not to be a secret from everybody.
actually he yells "i'm f****** HOT, come to me. baby".
and Da Poll. i voted for the "other". well, i think i did it automatically b/c i just thought that all the answers are horribly OOC. but that was the point, right? uhh..whatever. so i voted other. i think i made a "what's Ecklie gonna do" poll sometime in thread 20 or 21 though.
unirregardless to that (go jorja, lol), i think he either will never know, or he'll leave them alone b/c of the political reasons. if there won't be an out of show factor (like WP's health problems in S5) i don't think TPTB will change anything.
They never would have made Nick a supervisor (at that/this stage). Yes, he was going to have been in a key position job, but even with that, Catherine has always been more senior than him. I'm sure you must know this. Otherwise, wouldn't you have found it strange she didn't get the key position?
True, but then the question is if Catherine was more senior, why is it that she had no more powers or abilities than anyone else on the team? And why didn't the key position automatically go to her? Maybe because she didn't apply for it. Since her ear is closer to the ground than Sara or Grissom, she may have known that the Supervisor position was coming up and wanted to wait for that, but still.
As for Sara - the thing is that people keep saying that being with Grissom will make her hugely suspect for promotions, but that was the case BEFORE they were even together. And I don't think Sara really wants to become a supervisor. The key position sounded like it was just more kudos - if the Supervisor was on one assignment, you automatically led the other, and you got paid more.
Combine that with the fact that Ecklie just doesn't like her, and I don't think that her future was all that prosperous and was now cut short specifically because of this.
Agreed. He would probably have a "Bitch, I thought we had an agreement?!" moment like he did with Sofia in Mea Culpa when she told Ecklie Grissom had done no wrong.
lol. Likely. He definitely regarded Sofia with a glare of, "I thought this was in the bag".
Catherine he knows has strong ties to Grissom, but it might surprise him were she to stand up for Sara, considering she was trying to get her fired before.
No, no, no - just like Archie, she was two different characters. They just liked her so much that they asked her to stay on in a bigger, permanent role. She was one of those "finds the body and screams" people.
sarahvma said:
True, but then the question is if Catherine was more senior, why is it that she had no more powers or abilities than anyone else on the team? And why didn't the key position automatically go to her? Maybe because she didn't apply for it. Since her ear is closer to the ground than Sara or Grissom, she may have known that the Supervisor position was coming up and wanted to wait for that, but still.
The whole key position thing was a pretty ambiguous plot device, IMO. I mean, what was it anyway? We never found out, and nothing ever came of it except Sara's DUI.
My guess is Catherine already has some sort of key position, even though, as you say, she has no more responsibilities (really) than anyone else on the team.
As for Sara - the thing is that people keep saying that being with Grissom will make her hugely suspect for promotions, but that was the case BEFORE they were even together. And I don't think Sara really wants to become a supervisor.
Combine that with the fact that Ecklie just doesn't like her, and I don't think that her future was all that prosperous and was now cut short specifically because of this.
lol. Likely. He definitely regarded Sofia with a glare of, "I thought this was in the bag".
Catherine he knows has strong ties to Grissom, but it might surprise him were she to stand up for Sara, considering she was trying to get her fired before.
Do you think Cath really wanted Sara to actually be fired back in Nesting Dolls? I know Ecklie wanted that, but...I dunno. Damn I hated season 5 Cath. Don't get me all worked up again, Sarah.
No, no, no - just like Archie, she was two different characters. They just liked her so much that they asked her to stay on in a bigger, permanent role. She was one of those "finds the body and screams" people.
no, i meant more like uncover it to the CSI's. b/c if Secrets and Flies were supposed to directly have a GSR continuity, it would most probably be a uncovered-GSR-needs-help-from-a-sheriff plot. so if, S&F was purposefully made to be later regarded to GSR, it's the only plot that comes to my mind. therefore, if that was the case, they planned GSR not to be a secret from everybody.
No, I don't think so. I think they still would've wanted to unveil it late to the rest of the team or to anyone else.
It's just too much of a drama card to waste it on a few episodes.
Actually, there's a strong chance that despite his tough act, the sherriff considered saving their asses in Roshomama to be his debt paid. And as I've said, Grissom needs it FAR less than Sara, so I have a feeling the Catherine help will be brought up before the Sherriff thing.
it's afterwards. after all he wasn't having sex on that table with Doc watching.
and Da Poll. i voted for the "other". well, i think i did it automatically b/c i just thought that all the answers are horribly OOC. but that was the point, right? uhh..whatever. so i voted other. i think i made a "what's Ecklie gonna do" poll sometime in thread 20 or 21 though.
True. It was a stupid poll. I put it up because we're more than halfway done the page anyway.
But I thought the most likely course of action would be Ecklie firing Sara and Grissom going, "Screw this" and the two of them leaving to teach.
The whole key position thing was a pretty ambiguous plot device, IMO. I mean, what was it anyway? We never found out, and nothing ever came of it except Sara's DUI.
Yeah - the simple fact that funding was cut kind of says that the writers either had nowhere to go with it, OR one of their consultants said, "That position doesn't exist - what the hell are you talking about?"
My guess is Catherine already has some sort of key position, even though, as you say, she has no more responsibilities (really) than anyone else on the team.
I think her seniority automatically means that IF there's more than one case, she'll usually get to head it. I think Catherine is still being paid like a Supervisor right now even if she doesn't really have the title - or, actually, and this would be the perfect situation, if Grissom and Catherine were co-supervisors, Cath could do all the paperwork and Grissom could spend all of the time in the field, as he wants to.
And it seems, this season at least, that he's spending a ton of it there.
OR that his feelings run so deep that he doesn't want her to know, so he PRETENDS not to like her.
Do you think Cath really wanted Sara to actually be fired back in Nesting Dolls? I know Ecklie wanted that, but...I dunno. Damn I hated season 5 Cath. Don't get me all worked up again, Sarah.
I think she wanted him to take her side. Ecklie had taken her side, and he was leaning towards firing. I don't believe that deep-down she WANTED Sara to get fired, but I do think she felt Sara should have been punished with more than a heartfelt hand-hold (even though she didn't know that that was the 'action' Grissom took, I think she could tell he didn't exactly yell at her).
So... no. She didn't want to fire Sara, but she wanted people to admit that she'd been the one who had had wrong done to her.
Oh, I know, I know. But fans pick up on the reuse of actors. Just like we all know about Tina's original role.
You guys move too fast for me. And, yep, I had two questions answered in the TVGuide article! I feel special!
This thread is like a marathon race. I keep trying to catch up, but I just don't have the time, these days.
I was watching Homebodies last night, and it was just such a powerful episode on so many levels, and I wish we had more episodes like that. I felt the pain of that girl, her fear as she stood there, looking at the lineup. You could feel the trust she had made with Sara, and I loved that, as Sara was with the girl, Grissom was with her father. Sara wasn't quite a motherly figure to Susanna, but she was definitely an adult she trusted. And, Grissom got a greater understanding of humanity, of what it is to be a father, and to be helpless in the moment your family needed you most.
That moment, at the end, when Grissom looks at the family, then looks at her... It's not professional. It's completely personal. That whole episode the two of them were saying a lot with their glances, their looks. This moment speaks volumes. Grissom realizes the connection Susanna and Sara had, and now he's standing across from her.
Earlier, the father had been powerless, helpless. Here, Grissom is the one powerless and helpless. The father had explained whta it was like to him earlire in the episode, but I think Grissom got his first taste of it right there, in that moment. He couldn't keep the one he loved from feeling pain, he couldn't stop it. All he could do was offer a silent, worried look...
My, how our beloved couple has grown. Looking forward to tonight.
Aah, give us a break - we're CANON! I think the thread really died about mid-season 6 when everyone started giving up hope that GSR would happen because of the loss of Gum Drops and because of Pirates and the Sara/Sofia catfighting... and even with the finale, we didn't really get back to our old selves.
I think we're there now. And it's fun - even if we are a little fast-paced right now. Back before restrictions were put in, GSR was averaging about 100-150 posts a day. So be greatful! lol.
I was watching Homebodies last night, and it was just such a powerful episode on so many levels, and I wish we had more episodes like that. I felt the pain of that girl, her fear as she stood there, looking at the lineup. You could feel the trust she had made with Sara, and I loved that, as Sara was with the girl, Grissom was with her father. Sara wasn't quite a motherly figure to Susanna, but she was definitely an adult she trusted. And, Grissom got a greater understanding of humanity, of what it is to be a father, and to be helpless in the moment your family needed you most.
Mystery and Gibby pointed this out - a big failing in CSI has always been that you just never seem to care enough about the victims. The handful you DO care about really stick with you, and Homebodies is one of them. Of course, it has the advatange of us meeting and being with the victim properly before she dies, but I think it's also because of the compassion Sara shows, and the pain Grissom feels when she thinks she's failed.
I almost wonder if Grissom's look isn't partly, what with him finally understanding the Father, sort of wondering what it would be like if he'd show up to a scene and it was her.
And then, later on, we have Butterflied.
And I don't think that was accidental - especially because they show Sara, at the end of the season, very hesitant to deal with another rape victim and Grissom immediately knowing why. And note that the concept of meeting and being with the victim before her death is repeated.
Does the fan reaction to this new relationship ever shock you?
and
Who, if you don't already know, will be the first to discover this hidden romance?
They were cut down a bit, but those are my Qs that made it.
And I'm not trying to complain about how fast the thread is moving, there's just a lot of back and forth and it's hard to keep up.
I knwo that CSI has trouble with making us feel for the victims. It's a constant downfall of the show, but I love my show, and I love Canon GSR. I love being able to look at an episode and wonder if the other characters are going to pick up on it, and I still want to know who the first to figure it out will be. My fiance and I always say it makes the most sense to be Catherine, but there could be a curveball thrown in there. I could honestly believe Greg figuring it out, first.
I was watching Bones last night, and these two characters are trying to have a secret relationship, and it's so freakin' obvious, and I die laughing every time a new person puts the pieces together... because, on CSI, Gris and Sara are doing a wonderful job, I think.
If I worked with my man every day, I'd have a hard time not kissing him or holding his hand at the very least!
i also cant keep up with this thread, when im not on my days off work, cause it moves so fast so to save time, i only read the last page.
Although we're now "in on it" they're obviously making it more overt.
Having said that, one could argue it was always just the turn of the camera. Instead of spinning away from Grissom and Sara, we now get to see their reactions.
Like that scene in Bite Me where Grissom watches with an awed face as she comes down the stairwell... I think now they would have focused more on that.
i agree. its ineviatable. i watched that ep, the names escaping me at the moment, but the one where he told her he needed her, and then later, told her, i dont need one (mag subscription), i got you. well after he said that, and left straight after, you see saras reaction, where she looks confused, thinks, then shakes her head, as if, nah, no, nothing to that. and i was a bit taken back, cause you didnt see a whole lot of reaction before. but earlier in the ep, when hes like i need you, shes sooooo happy, she cant contain how happy she is, smiling at him, looking away, pursing up her lips, etc. sometimes it seemed like she was sure, and other times, not soo sure, where she stood, which is probably how she did feel, cause there were times when it seemed obvious and times when it didnt through most series'.
My guess would be it's because she doesn't feel comfortable actually doing interrogations, so she often hangs out and watches. She's not especially socially adept, so she probably would rather stand in the wings whilst her coworkers take on the "human aspect" of the job. I think it's often the same case with Grissom, although he's been at it so long that he's developped an ability to plow on and do it anyway.
i have honestly, never noticed this. i take into account, that on a few confrontations, and i can think of a handful, shes got emotionally involved, let her feelings take hold, and acted unprofessionally. i can think of a few times others have too (catherine etc) but honestly, i never noticed her reluctant to do that, and when she does, almost all the time, she seems comfortable, professional, focused, clever, and on the ball. when shes asking questions or whatever, she seems totally comfortable, and sometimes she lets them know exactly what she thinks, i havent ever noticed her out of her depth in questioning, lost or whatever. sara undoubtably, loves the scientific side most, the finding out, etc, but she also loves being in the field involved.
i watched an ep yesterday where she went to catherine and was like, i need help. i maxed out on my overtime this month, and i cant get out into the field, and she SO is itching to go out, she doesnt wanna be stuck in the lab (so i think she does like the social side of the job too). btw the maxed out stuff made me love sara even more, shes so cute.
and i think shes good at interrogations, normally when its female, sara will take lead, male, male csi. not all the time, but with victims, suspects, i notice it happen a lot. and even when saras in the background not primarily doing it, she doesnt stay quiet, shes in there, with her questions, and statements. i think shes fantastic and confident in every aspect of her job, professionally.
Does the fan reaction to this new relationship ever shock you?
yes, the negative fan reaction that is. because i cant understand why since their so obviously good for each other and so in tune and compatible, with strong feelings, why people hate it, but as has been mentioned before, its a lot to do with the chracters and the love or hate of the respective chracter.
I could honestly believe Greg figuring it out, first.
same here, he might not specifically be the first to figure it out, but i think he'll be the first to not keep it to himself, i just think, he'll notice something somwewhere, since he has a crush on her, and he probably pays more attention to her than most of her and grissoms work mates. although none are stupid, i guess it could be anyone.
Or, wait...was it me and Sar who played it? D: EVERYTHING IS SO LONG AGO TO ME)