Grissom&Sara#22 - Tongues Cost More

Spoiler: Tonight

Yeah, GSR had like 4 scenes, or more, possibly. Mini crime scene of Sara later on this season? Huh? What do you mean?

btw, (know this is late) but Sara looked really pretty on the TV Guide thing.

 

It's posted on TVGuide.com under "Ask Ausiello" that Billy is now signed on through the end of season eight. The question was posted on September 27th so it's recent. Just thought I'd let everyone know b/c that means there will hopefully be a continuation of some serious GSR moments!!!!
Possible, kinda spoiler below, so just to be safe:

Spoiler: Scene in Tonight's Eppy

I know it's not directly GSR, but you know Sara's had a positive effect on Grissom when he and Doc could rock out in the Morgue. How seemingly out of charector!! I loved it! Plus, who knew Doc could sing . . . I wonder if Grissom can too???

 

I heard it's still iffy and that you can't always trust Ausiello but I only heard it, I've no clue what to think for real.

Spoiler: Tonight's ep

What do we make of Ecklie's "of course you do" comment? It could mean he's onto the ship but I don' think so. I think he meant that the team always sticks together so they would agree. Anyone else wanna comment? And about the model of Sara comment...I wonder why people think they'd kill her...just curious 'cause someone else on Grissaratalk suggested it too. I just don't think they'd do it although you can't tell with them. And LV is the only CSI not to lose someone to death yet...main cast that is, Holly and Sam don't count.

 

Spoiler: tonight's episode

I think Ecklie was basicaly saying "Of course, the team always sticks together no matter what," but Grissom's look, to me, said, "What do you think he meant by that," and Sara kind of shook her head like "Nah, he doesn't know anything." It was cute, actually. My favorite moment between them was in the beginning when she said something like "This is a level of obsession that gives you even a run for your money." That was cute.

By the way, I'm new. I've been reading for quite some time now, I just got tired of only reading. Time to get interactive, LOL.

 

All i have to say is that was a fantastic episode. The GSR was amazing. Too many to comment on right now. I have to go out and celebrate. Its a beautiful night.

I hope ziggy and sarah are having a blast together, they have some good scenes to be celebrating.

I will be back in the morning!

 

Spoiler: 7x02 Opening Scene

Now THAT's what I'm talkin' about. Perfect GSR. Them teasing each other, with the "before your time" comment and "obsession that rivals even yours" (I think that was the quote - forgive me if I'm slightly wrong). I love them together. Yayness!

WTFLOLZ @ Sara's sunglasses btw, heh.

Spoiler: 7x02 & Ecklie

I'm certain Ecklie doesn't know anything. I mean, of course I don't know for sure but I am solid in my convictions about it. I'm sure he meant "of course you do" in a way that meant more than just "Yeah the team sticks together" - which of course prompted the GSR exchanged look and Sara's "Nooo...he couldn't..." look also (which was seriously cute btw) but Ecklie just knows about Sara & Grissom's general relationship from over the years - which you can see in his comments at the end of Nesting Dolls, too, for instance.

I lovelovelove this season of GSR ^-^ And I can see the whole team-not-knowing thing, with "Do they know? They couldn't know. I hope they don't know"-ness is gonna be a lot of fun

 

ok can someone describe in detail their scenes together? what they said etc? 4 or more scenes huh? cool! i cant wait till i can download them.

aw thats good, i hope thats true that WP has signed on for season 8. that would be really great. more GSR! but i dont wanna get my hopes up yet.

 

The opening scene -

SARA: I think Malibu Barbie did it.
GRISSOM: Well then there's a lot more to Barbie than just a pretty face, cause this is a perfect half-inch scale model of the room. And assuming that the killer is the same person that made the miniature...
SARA: It would have taken weeks, maybe even months to create with this kind of detail. Certainly qualifies as premeditiation.
GRISSOM: Yeah but take a look at the blood pools.
SARA: They're identical.
GRISSOM: There's no prediciting a bloodpool. It's inherently random.
SARA: Killer must've stuck around and matched the scene.
(Grissom tests the blood in the diorama)
GRISSOM: It's real blood.
(We see the killer dripping the blood into the scene)
SARA: That is a level of obsession that gives even you a run for your money.
(Grissom gives her a look)
SARA: "If Dusty Fell - Izzy Delancy"
GRISSOM: It was his biggest hit.
SARA: I have never heard of him.
GRISSOM: Probably before your time.
SARA: I'll download it. (Beat) I checked the perimeter, property is gated with a code, there is no sign of forced entry on the windows or the doors, of course - if a girl could get into Brad Pitt's underwear drawer and take a nap on his bed, I guess anything is possible. (Beat) Lividity suggests he hasn't been moved, he was probably sitting right here when he was killed. (Beat) Looks like blunt force trauma, no spatter or cast off, which suggests a single blow.
GRISSOM: Sometimes it only takes one hit.

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The Ecklie scene -

(Grissom cuts the shirt off the Izzy doll. There's a photo layout of the crime scene on the table in front of him. He autopsies the doll with a scalpel)
SARA: Find something?
GRISSOM: No. (Beat) No prints, no hairs, no fibres, materials are common hobby-shop issue, but the blood matches the victim's.
SARA: You interested in motive? Sofia, just spent the last two hours with the sheriff, the head of the Olympia Casino and a couple'a dozen lawyers. Apparently Izzy Delancy owned the rights to his own songs, the Olympia was negotiating to purchase them for a medley show based on his music. Izzy never got a chance to sign the contracts. Dead rockstar, nut-job family, and a company hungry for the next Mamma Mia...
GRISSOM: Who inherits the music rights?
SARA: The son, Sven. But he's a minor, so the rights would be controlled by his mother, Dusty.
GRISSOM: It's illegal to benefit from a criminal act. If either one of them committed the murder...
SARA: Then the rights would go to Izzy's current wife, Madeline.
GRISSOM: Well, that's motive for her, but how does this fit in?
(Grissom points to the diorama. Ecklie walks in)
ECKLIE: Maybe we should release it to the media. Someone might have unwittingly made a component of the miniature, if they came forward, that could help us.
GRISSOM: What's the point of gratifying the murderer with publicity?
ECKLIE: Izzy Delancy is famous - the press wants answers.
GRISSOM: Don't we all?
ECKLIE: Sara, this is your case, too, what do you think?
SARA: I, uh...agree with Grissom.
(Ecklie nods snarkily and looks between them, beaten)
ECKLIE: Of course you do.
(Ecklie leaves. Sara follows his exit with a quizzical expression. Grissom looks up at Sara with a look of shared confusion re: Ecklie's final comment. Sara looks over at him, then back up again toward where Ecklie left again, mouthing "No.." and shaking her head)

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Their final scene together (this ep) -

(Grissom sits in his office at his desk, looking over the diorama with a flashlight. Sara walks up, stopping in her doorway, rapping on the frame)
SARA: I hear we're outta suspects
GRISSOM: Not necessarily. Could be anybody in town. Or anybody outta town for that matter. That's a lot of suspects.
SARA: What do you want us to do?
(He thinks for a moment)
GRISSOM: I dunno
(Grissom puts on his glasses with the mounted magnifiers)
GRISSOM: I'll deal with it.
(Sara looks on wearily [for his sake] as Grissom flicks down the magnifiers to take a better look at the diorama)

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So there you go. Of course they're better if you actually SEE them, though. So if anyone in the states missed the episode, CBS has it up on Innertube now. Those of you outside of the US won't be able to watch it there, unfortunately, but I'm sure there are...*cough*...other ways for you to see the scenes.

ANYWAY...

O/T: Was watching Friends tonight. The Tom wasn't in it, but it was the one where Joey considered buying his apartment (actually, technically it was "The One With Ross's Inappropriate Song") so he was mentioned a lot. Chandler made a lot of nasty comments:

"I just hope the (golf) club doesn't slip out of my hand and beat the moustache off his face."
"So how come Richard's selling the place? Went bankrupt? Medical malpractice? Choked on his own moustache?"
"Just'd be another saucy anecdote for him to share at his men's club over brandy and moustaches."

*pets the 'stache*

 

Spoiler: Future Episodes

Concerning Grissoms leave: Judging from tonights episode, it looks like the miniture crime scenes are going to be giving Grissom something to obsess over. What if his leave has something to do with this all consuming desire to figure out what is going on with those models? He forgets about everything else, Sara included, and goes back to his pre-relationship days where he COULD spend hours/days on a case and it wouldn't matter to anyone besides him. Someone (Sara, Ecklie, etc...)finally convince him that he needs to distance himself before it drives him, almost literally insane, thus, the leave. During the leave, he realizes that Sara is it (in a good way of course). He found someone who loves him and whom he can love in return and by pushing her away in favor of a case is reverting back to how he acted before his relationship with Sara. So I think that the leave may be a good thing if it makes Grissom realize what he has with Sara is special, something that is a higher priority then solving a case. [By the way, I don't know if what I wrote makes any sense, it's 4:30 in the morning and I thought of this while lying in bed and didn't want to forget it.]

 

Hi everyone,

I am new here too, and I have been watching CSI since season one and I have all five seasons on DVD, and I can't waite for season six to come out on dvd. I love watching the behind the scenes and the shows with the directors comments so you get a better feel for the show. My friend Randy and I are in the navy and I told him that when he is underway to watch all the seasons over again with the comments on, and now he said that all the guys on the Submarine are into it more now that they watched it with the comments on, because we miss a lot of the seson being underway, and I knpow if I go on deployment I will miss all of season 8 even though it hasn't started yet.

I don't know if I like the Phantom or CSI better. I have love phantom ever since I saw the show in N.Y.C. in 1988 when Michael Crawford was the Phantom.
WHat do you guys think? The Phanom or Grissom, or the Phantom Verses Grissom?

Huggies,

The Phantom

 

Okay, a few things: I MUCH preferred the case to last week's. I liked seeing the whole rock star dynamic, but MY GOD SOMEONE HAD TO WARN ME THAT GRISSOM WOULD HEAD-BOB.

Anyway - Ziggy and I were discussing this and... okay... *breathes*... it's almost as though they're doing it too much now. The GSR scenes. Part of what we loved before was that every episode would be more of a "Will they?"

Now, it's sort of like "Won't they?"

And I think that I'm just feeling like they're messing around with it when they could be providing us with the timeline. Yes, they were working together, and in that case, VERY little of it was actually shippy. In fact, the Ecklie thing was the only thing that COULD be considered shippy.

So kudos to Jorja and Billy for being able to charge every single scene.

But... if they had reversed cases - if this had been the first case and then we had Cirque with no veggie burgers on interactions, then

Spoiler: next week

Them working together again would seem a bit more rare. But right now, Grissom's looking rather love-struck. He's pairing himself with her, sort of "meeting up" privately in his office, bringing her lunch... and then next week we have the San Francisco conversation - which is the one bit of GSR I'm really looking forward to. So... yeah. In a sense, I won't mind Grissom's absence because the GSR almost feels like it's being... forced? I dunno - I'll watch the episode again, because perhaps it's just that I want GSR to be above reproach with all of the nay-sayers.

 

i have a question :
conrad knows the relationship between grissom-sara?
"ECKLIE: Sara, this is your case, too, what do you think?
SARA: I, uh...agree with Grissom.
(Ecklie nods snarkily and looks between them, beaten)
ECKLIE: Of course you do."


and the 5 season
"CONRAD ECKLIE: Look, Gil ... I've been there. We're human. We get attached to
people, we try to fix their problems. It doesn't work.

GRISSOM: She's a great criminalist, Conrad. And I need her.

CONRAD ECKLIE: I'm sure you do. "

what do you think? :S


and sarahvma thank you about the spoiler for the first time that i read it i want to see this scene the next week great!!! freak out

 

i think he suspects, but he hasnt any solid proof they are.

what do you mean sarah by the timeline? you mean of their romance?.

i dont really get the rest though. see i wasnt watching csi for the six seasons it took them to get together, ive had to watch seasons recently, when i already know their together. so i never experienced the longing for a subtle romantic moment between the two of them, or one with a double meaning like most here did. so its not weird for me. but i think the thing is, the dymamics have changed between them, they wernt dating back in those seasons, so the moments were rare and there were so many issues, so people wanted them even more, now their together, and the viewers know it, so going many eps without them working together isnt realisitc. i mean for me personally, i think the more GSR scenes, the better, i love them, and their scenes where they interact. plus the scenes in the last two eps, havent really been that big, or anything, the veggie burger scene is the only scene id consider outward hidden affection between them, this weeks, were really subtle also. plus their hiding it from everyone so the amount of scenes at work that are personal will be seriously limited, and now that their in a relationship, grissom is gonna change somewhat as is sara, they both wanted each other a long time. i dont feel like its taking over the show so i dont mind the scenes, i certianly dont mind the scenes, since we dont have long left. why do you mind if they feel forced? do you want less scenes between them?

im really excited for the new chapter of their relationship and how that plays out on screen, we've had them hiding it, and fighting their feelings, the jealously, the fall outs, the compassion, the getting ready and opening up, and them finally been in a relationship-6 years of that, thats a long time. now instead of hiding from each other, their hiding from others. now im happy for new scenes, them hiding it, hiding what they feel for each other, working together, seeing how they interact on a professional capacity, and most of all, seeing development between the two of them, relationship wise, seeing any 'deep' convos, or affection, or something. dont you think that?

 

i am competely agree with you
pics about the symmetry the gsr :lol: the same eyebrow :lol:

 

We screamed, y'all. Serious. We were all getting ready to rock it out with Doc Robbins, then it showed Grissom head-bopping and both of us screamed "OH GOD!" over and over. THE EMMANATOR was totally weirded out. Then later we got the clip of omaetoy and I replayed just his head bop over and over and over like 20 times, while Sarah wailed "stooooop!" We were totally sober this time, too.

About the Ecklie scene, I totally didn't get it the first time, but Sar pointed out that their looks after he walked out were like "Does he.. you don't think he knows.." "....Naaaaah." Hee. Cute.

But yeah, I feel like it's too much. I don't need GSR in every episode. It's like they're plugging the hell out of it cause it's new. Hopefully they'll cut back a little and show us that they are still capable of working a case without relationship dynamics coming up.

Welcome to newbie phantom! You'll love it here. We're all insane.

Oh, last night I decided to watch Grey's for the first time (in Canada it's shown before CSI rather than concurrent). And yeah. Uh. *cough* yeah. I won't be watching that again. Especially since Smallville is on at the same time. Yay, Smallville! *makes out with Michael Rosenbaum*

One last thing? Sara's sunglasses? DUDE. WTF. Warddrobe needs to be SMACKED for that one.