Eric/Natalia___The Sweetest Smiles...

Spoiler: 1st epi & interview reply

well for the first epi all I can say thats positive is 1- they at least had a scene together. 2- Eirc was not all sad & heartbroken over Calleigh. (there was frustration but nothing major) & 3- there were no sparks between Nat & Ryan. I liked the way they played on their friendship but I still just cannot see them taking these 4 & switching them around. Maybe if it ws a show based on the characters & their relationships but not this one. Even if they are dramatic & soapy sometimes, they've never gone that far! As for the interview, at first I was peeved too because its like 'hello people are you forgetting Natalia here? His ex he has had no closure with? the one he still liked til he was shot in his head? BUT....Adam did say "he was done fighting & was just going to be a pain in the ass". This tells me that he will lay low, Calleigh has chosen Jake, this gives Eric plenty of time to start naturally picking up his feelings for Nat...epi 5. The interview sounded to me as if they may not drag out the triangle for long. Eric might be confused & bummed right now but that DOES NOT mean that he wont relight that flame w/ Nat later! Calleigh seemed to show no interest in the fact that she chose Jake over him anyway. I dont call that a real triangle! NO WORRIES HERE!

Spoiler: What do you all think???

I think Nat may hide the fact that she cannot shoot well from the rest of the team... now knowing how protective Eric is of her (he still had the protectivenesst in 'burned' epi) I would think that he would be a little worried finding out that she would be thrown into the field not able to protect herself...dont ya think? Thats where I would love to see them play w/ Speed on that. He comes back in epi 4, that would make Eric think about the fact that he lost his best friend due to gun maintenance & then in epi 5 suppose he starts to worry about losing Natalia !! I would be SO happy if they played it like that. Thats why I say to keep the faith... because it can all change!!

 

Spoiler: plus

don't forget we still get Eric popping her shoulder back in and the hug!!!!!!

 

It's gonna be Eric and Nat and I will lay out my case
1. Eric and Nat simply have better on-screen chemistry. Calleigh and Eric make a 'handsome' couple but Boa Vista and Delko can melt steel. This is television and the producers are going to gravitate to whichever couple has better raw sexual chmeistry and that is Eric/Nat. NO DOUBT.
2. Ryan and Nat? Forget it. Chemistry is zero. They may make good friends and show mutual respect and concern. But romanticly, I don't think so.
3.The shooting instructor is, as I have understood it, a love 'interest' for Nat. What is much less clear is how far it goes if it goes anywhere at all. Nat does flirt but so what.
4.History-the two had one white-hot relationship in one season. And if you remember in "Dead Air", Natalia only wanted to slow things down not break up. She said "You and I actually had a chance but you blew it." She's not going to take Eric's crap. I have never believed she totally was totally closed to trying a second time with Eric.
5.Since that relationship, Eric and Nat have been through a great deal. Eric lost his sister, got shot in the head, and is undergoing a lengthy recovery. Nat's ex-husband shows up again and dredges up painful memories for her. Yeah, he's dead now but now she's branded with the stigma that everyone knows she was sleeping with her abusive ex. She needs time to get Nick out of her system.
6. There is still some spark there it just needs the right
conditions to flare up again.
Recall-In "Looks could Kill" twice Eric put himself between Nat and her ex. First time on the street and second time in the penthouse apartment. "I don't have your back" was his words to Nick.
"Going Under"-the scene in the garage when Eric and Nat are searching the black pickup. Notice how she came up to him and said "Then get out of my way!"
In "Internal Affairs"-the Eric/Nick fight scene. The scene where Nat was being escorted under arrest and looked for some sort of reassurance from Eric. The interogation scene when she asked Jake if Eric had acutally said what was written. Something is still there.
7. Varioius interviews and quotes from the actors and the writers indicate something.
There is the shooting instructor but the fate of that is unclear. In one interview Eva Larue has said there will be a plot twist for Natalia but the writers aren't telling her what it will be. "Actors tend to have big yap" she said. She has also alluded to something with "one of the boys" but it being a deeper, more empathetic relationship that a "fling". Both actors have said that they do not think that the Nat/Eric romance is dead for good. The question remains is how it gets going again and what it will be like second time around.
In summary, I believe what Eric and Natalia needed was a hiatus from any romance. It started a bit too intense. Both characters needed some time to develop. Natalia needed time to re-establish trust between herself and co-workers after being exposed as 'the mole', she needed to get her ex-husband out of her system, and lastly concentrate on becoming a full-fledged CSI. Eric needed to recover from his injury, rebuild his confidence, and to do some maturing in the romance department. As Speedle once told him he needs to "cultivate" his relationships.
The only thing I am not sure of is what circumstance/situation will bring them back together. Guess we'll find out what happens. I would like to see them become the Grissom/Sarah of CSI-Miami. That relationship was developed slowly but I do like how they kept it in the background with little bits and pieces of it showing up here and there. It did not dominate plots or story lines. It was well done and kept your attention. A similar approach would be good for Delko and Boa Vista
Got all that!?

 

CAN I JUST TELL YOU... I knew by your lovely posts in Nat's thread that I was absolutely going to LOVE YOU, DOUBLEHELIX!!! Welcom welcome I am thrilled to see you here & your lenghty post was a much needed boost that I needed to read. I have been saying the exact thing for a while now but it was nice to see someone else have the same thoughts!! Sometimes you start to ask yourelf if your the only ones who see this spark but im telling you, all of you, their relationship is SO THERE, clear as day, black & white. There was no guesswork for them either which I think will help Eric fall again, for Eric & Nat the 'attraction' is already there, he doesn't have to really work at getting her back & in his condition thats what he needs is to have things a little easier for him. It kills me they have said "potential attraction for each other" for other couples but give me a break....ive been married 10 years & I am NO expert on love but who is? But I know this...attraction is a feeling that you should not have to contemplate over. Attraction comes first, its just human behavior..its not the most important thing but its what brings the relationship to a start. There is an ENORMOUS difference between "your attractive" & "Im attracted TO you" & "i love you" & "im IN love with you". Eva said "she cant help but be totally attracted to him"....you don't say that about a coworker who you think is just a goodlooking guy. There is more to this story coming up, i can just feel it!! Thanks again DOUBLEHELIX, your post just made me in the best mood!!!

 

Thanks! I guess. Just was expressing an opinion. I mean just look at the picture of the two in Miss_Boa_Vista's reply back up the page. They definitely make one very hot couple. That can't be denied.
So, break the two up for awhile so they can have "cooling off" period. Add a dash of character development, both professionally and personally. Then the stage will be set for Delko/Boa Vista. By the way, some spoilers I have read seem to indicate that Eric and Calleigh wind up having their first big rift in their working history. Anyone else hear that?
Couple things I would like to see though. Eric and Nat actually go out on a date. Maybe a night dancing, Latin style of course! After all he is Cuban and she's Hispanic.
Also, Natalia gets her firearms certification. Something about a woman with guns. Real hot. A situation where she actually has to use the gun in a life or death situation.
I would like to see Natalia fly solo on a case, one that is preferably reeeallly heinous and rattles her professionally and emotionally.
Lastly, I do wish for a girlfriend for Ryan. Just not Nat.
If anyone is in need of girlfriend, he is.

Cheers!

 

Great summation, doublehelix. Eric and Natalia complete each other.

 

Well, you do know of course that I could be entirely wrong about Eric/Natalia. Guess we will have to wait and see, won't we?

 

EDeN pic of the day!!


Being a shipper is all about fantasy & speculation, its all about our opinions & how we view the individual characters, so yes indeed we could be wrong but I like to think that there is more TRUTH in our couple here than any other CSI pairing just simply because they were an actual couple...it wasn't how we were viewing it, their relationship was thrown out there for not only all the viewers to see but the characters too. I don't beleive there is a single person on the show that doesn't know of their involvement together. TPTB made sure everyone knew about it. Not to mention that they didn't bother giving viewers any time to give their opinion of them before putting them together, they really just 'went with it', like 'ok, too bad, this is what were doing, sorry'. The way I see it is we couldn't be any more wrong than any other ships but at least we have a couple that have been written together by the writers themselves. All we have to do now is wait & hope they'll carry them out. But just like DOUBLEHEX also said, theres alot that could go in their direction based on things weve already seen. Theres just not alot of doubt in my mind that somewhere alnog the way EDeN will reappear... in what shape & form, when & where....who knows, but it will come up!

& God, yes they need to go on a real date!! Then some 'sexiness' too, 'cos those 2 have that super heavy duty sexual chemistry....THAT IS DEFINATELY NO DOUBT!!!

 

Spoiler: reply to mjs' spoiler

Ooh that does make an interesting thing if the whole Speed thing makes him wonder about Nat in the next episode. That could bring them closer together, plus theres a hug? Definately closer.

 

I'll take swing at Speedle/Delko interaction re: Boa Vista
Eric and Nat are in one of the labs, discussing some piece of evidence. As Nat leaves the ghost of Speedle appears next to Eric (at this point Eric is not surprised when Speed shows up)
Speedle: She's a pretty one. Looks smart too. Who is that? What's her name?
Delko: That's Boa Vista. Specializes in DNA. Hasn't been here too long.
Speedle: Very cute. Did you ever ask her out?
Delko: Yeah, we dated for several weeks.
Speedle: SEVERAL WEEKS!!! That's gotta be some sort of record for you Eric. You're usually bolting for the hills if lasts for more than two! How'd you screw that one up?
Delko: What makes you think I screwed things up!
Speedle: I know you, dude! I told you once, you have to "cultivate" these relationships. Looks as if you let a good one slip through your fingers. Keep that up and you'll wind up alone.
(Speedle Dissappears)

 

doublehelix, that is a really great idea. and he really let slip a good one through his fingers. but I believe he is smart enough to realize it given a little time

and your idea with them going on a date is even better. they really should go salsa or rumba I think they could
even pull out a tango

as for the girlfriend for Ryan - they dont need to go too far to find him one, Calleigh is there

 

Calleigh and Ryan? Never really gave that pair a look. Besides, Calleigh has her hands full with Jake now. Her "bad boy". I will still put money on EDeN though.

 

That is too funny..I had that same scenario idea w/ a Speed ghost except for me I was thinking that like an 'angel watching him' he would have already known who Natalia was & that he would throw some pointers in his direction. Or that maybe Speed would notice Eric getting a vibe between Nat & Ryan's friendship & Speed would tell him to not make the same mistake he made before(dead air epi).

2 weeks??? They dated longer than that! It was official in "payback" which was mid-december (the 19th to be exact), but she was supposedly 'looking' for Eric in the "shattered" epi which was what, a few weeks earlier, I think? They 'slowed down' in "skeletons" which aired in February. The official break up was in "dead air" which was in April. So really they were together for, id say 5 months. Plus I like to think that it was "urban Hellraisers" that gave them the first boost. Maybe they chatted outside in the parking lot that night or something. In the CBS epi archives the summary for "one of our own" says they had been together 'off & on for a year' & that they had 'made love' & how much Eric really liked her!! They are soooo destined to get back together!

BTW, I'll put my money on EDeN also!!!

Ps...just to keep this thread friendly for everyone, I know there is a some carwashers who are also EDeN fans (I am one) but, some others that post may not be & lurkers too, so we may want to try & keep it all EDeN in here...for the respect of others.

 

heh
thats cute
anyway doublehelix,you have brought joy to my day.
I have just caught up on all the posts and looking back, you have truly made my day

 

I never doubted that Eric really liked her, but as Nat said in one episode "You have some trust issues!" His reply-"You're right."
Neither are perfect. Eric is kind of playboy/philanderer who is easily spooked and Nat still had issues with her ex-husband. Well, we have Eric post-brain injury and Nat post-Nick. Stage seems set to me. We'll just have to see how this thing with Calleigh/Jake/Eric will shake out.
I did see an interview with Eva Larue when they were filming the gun range scene for the season opener. It was clearly mentioned that there's going to a big plot twist for Natalia, but the writers/producers aren't telling, not even her.
Purely speculation but who knows. Maybe the EDeN break up was short lived and they've been seeing each other all along. That would be twist wouldn't it!!?? Cheers!