CSI: NY Season 5 Spoiler Discussion--Drama in Alphabet City!

[Top41]

Guys, we need to cool it down here a bit over the whole Mac/Stella issue. Just like the Danny/Lindsay pairing, Mac/Stella is going to have it's fans and it's detractors. Everyone needs to accept this.

On the contrary IF they get together (at this point i think any can happen) i will enjoy from Head to Toe. I wonder why BEFORE anything happens (and nothing was told except we are going to know more about Stella's family and "some sparks" between them) there is such negative tendency instead of wait and see how their story (because they have one either you like them as friends or not) is developed.

Is the negativity cronic here???????????? Because NOBODY gave me a plausible reason. The one i mentioned in the morning.
Or is hatred an easier emotion?

I ask this because i do want to know

Seriously i don't envy at all CSI NY writers and producers because this fandom is impossible. What makes someone happy, makes feel miserable to other people.And even before a story is developed, there is a waterfall of critics

I am happy whatever they decide to give to Mac and Stella. Why? Because their closeness and their solid relationship was established from the beginning. THE PILOT episode. They are the best friends in the world yeah but if you are a woman, would you marry anyone else who weren't your best friend?
Would you marry David if you best (male) friend is Charlie? Certainly i would pick Charlie and i would drag him to the very first church i could find


As i always say your love must be your best friend. Who could know you better than him? who could know better your flaws and love you despite of them? who would do anything for you? (even go across half world to be with you) It must be someone very special, someone who really loves you

Just do me a favour, Could you just wait until 5.24 to say " i will hate them"?????
Please:bolian:

Debbs

Ghawazee, no one owes you an explanation or even a positive viewpoint on this pairing. If they don't like it, they've got that right. You need to back off here.

Let's get back to a civil, friendly discussion. Thanks, everyone.

 

[Ghawazee]

Just thrilled to be called "Hypocryte" nice way to start my morning:lol::lol:

PA

It's funny how you can piss and moan and be negative about Danny and Lindsay, but if people don't want to see Mac and Stella in a romantic relationship and talk about it the board is over run with negativity and hatred. And this is a spoiler SPECULATION thread. People are going to talk about what they may or may not like if certain things happen. It doesn't mean it is really going to happen.

I can be negative about Danny and Lindsay because they have proved to be a fiasco. I didn't dislike them in S2. I wasn't thrilled but i wasn't so negative , probably because i felt they were "MEH".
And yes, you are right, this thread is about SPECULATION but all speculation is so negative! You can talk about something without ASSURING the episode is going to be a disaster!

Also, people have given reasons. Just because they're not what you want to hear or you don't agree with them doesn't negate the fact that they are, indeed, reasons

Saying "I don't want them together" is not a PLAUSIBLE REASON not to have them together All of us, Smacked fans, can tell why we do want them together with SOLID reasons. We have collected evidence since S1

I already know I won't like it because it will change their dynamic

Have you watched the episode beforehand? Because if you have, could you tell to the rest of us, not so lucky people, what will be this episode about?????

I like them the way they are and I like watching a show where the two leads can be friends and co-workers without being in a romantic relationship

See? you have given me a reason why you don't want Smacked happen. Finally. But still it's your own conception (a one i respect but certainly i don't share) why two leads must stay away

Jolein, you are simply adorable:rommie::rommie::rommie:

I mean,you don`t like D/L together and I see nothing but negativity on your part about them and now people suddenly can`t be negative about M/S because they are you favorite ship.
No offense but that is a bit being hypocritical from your side.

I dislike them because their relationship doesn't exist. Or probably it does but only in producers'minds and fangirls' minds They never had a solid basis for a relationship (and getting married just because they were too stupid to use protection gives me more support why they should NOT be together). And yes, Smacked is my FAV ship. Because they have built a bond along all these years. Their affection, their respect, their mutual understanding, would you demand less than that from your future husband?????????? They weren't a couple and i don't know if they will be EVER but believe me, Smacked is stronger and it has more basis than the stupidity called DL (do i need to say i am talking about a fictional pairing and not about the fandom

Debbs

ps:

Ghawazee, no one owes you an explanation or even a positive viewpoint on this pairing. If they don't like it, they've got that right. You need to back off here.

It's true but they don't have a reason to say "I will hate that episode" before it is aired

And now talking about double standard. I was called Hypocryte but i am still the witch of this thread???????? How H. is that?

 

[mandy9578]

How come all of a sudden we're getting an overdose of romance on New York? I'm really crossing my fingers that Mac and Stella don't get together. I mean this show's a procedural and clearly, romance is a weakness. Sure, I'd love to see a little more of what the characters are up to off the clock but another work place romance? No thanks. It'll change everything that I like about the non-romantic Mac-Stella dynamic. Mac may be an upright individual, he may be the most professional CSI, but people on the outside wouldn't see it that way. Stella is his subordinate and Mac her superior.

 

[jolein]

Sorry top,you are right.
I will take a step back because frankly i`m getting tired and annoyed

 

[Sophia's folly]

The tentative title of the epsiode disussed here is called "Grounds for Deception" :lol: Is it just me or do some alarm bells ring quite loudly? As we say here in the UK maybe someone is leading us up the proverbial 'garden path' "Sparks chemistry" for me read Mac and Stella having a good old fashioned blazing row! I don't want to upset anyone here but my take on this seems completely different. I guess I will have to wait and see.

 

[Plenilunio]

The tentative title of the epsiode disussed here is called "Grounds for Deception" :lol: Is it just me or do some alarm bells ring quite loudly? As we say here in the UK maybe someone is leading us up the proverbial 'garden path' "Sparks some chemistry" for me read Mac and Stella having a good old fashioned blazing row! I don't want to upset anyone here but my take on this seems completely different. I guess I will have to wait and see.

Mac and Stella quarrelling sounds definitely interesting. I loved it when she entered his office holding a gun in a very menacing way. They both have quite a temper, seeing them fight is always nice :devil:

 

[coruption]

How come all of a sudden we're getting an overdose of romance on New York? I'm really crossing my fingers that Mac and Stella don't get together. I mean this show's a procedural and clearly, romance is a weakness. Sure, I'd love to see a little more of what the characters are up to off the clock but another work place romance? No thanks. It'll change everything that I like about the non-romantic Mac-Stella dynamic. Mac may be an upright individual, he may be the most professional CSI, but people on the outside wouldn't see it that way. Stella is his subordinate and Mac her superior.

I completely agree 100%!! Why on earth would you get the two lead characters together like that? I have never heard of a more "jump the shark" moment. The reason that Mac and Stella's chemistry works so well together is because they really great friends that care for each other. You could see them as more but they're not and that's cool. And you know how the writers are not that great with romance. This will get screwed up. And then what will the viewer have left? The only reason they should ever write in a Stella/Mac romance at the end of this season is if there wasnt going to be a season 6. It would make a great ending to the shows run.

 

[Top41]

Ghawazee, no one called you a hypocrite. There's a difference between pointing out a hypocritical or double standard point of view and calling someone a hypocrite. Nonetheless, if we can avoid throwing around words like hypocritical, that would be great, as it doesn't really further the discussion.

I can be negative about Danny and Lindsay because they have proved to be a fiasco. I didn't dislike them in S2. I wasn't thrilled but i wasn't so negative , probably because i felt they were "MEH".
And yes, you are right, this thread is about SPECULATION but all speculation is so negative! You can talk about something without ASSURING the episode is going to be a disaster!

This is the spoiler speculation thread--of course that's what's done in here--people give their opinions on what's coming up. As for Danny and Lindsay "proven to be a fiasco"--that may be the case for you and me and many others, but there are many who like them, too. Everyone here is entitled to have an opinion. If you don't want to read that commentary, then I suggest you stay out of this thread. I'm sure there's lots of positive talk about this in the Mac/Stella thread in Shipper Central--I suggest you go there if you don't want to hear dissenting viewpoints.

Smacked is stronger and it has more basis than the stupidity called DL (do i need to say i am talking about a fictional pairing and not about the fandom

And DL fans feel their ship is stronger and is canon and all that jazz. People are still allowed to say they don't like the ship. What's fair is fair. Every pairing is going to have its fans and its detractions and both are allowed to express their viewpoints. That goes for Danny/Lindsay, Mac/Stella, Flack/Angell, Danny/Flack, Adam/Hawkes, etc., etc. I don't care what the pairing is--everyone is entitled to express their feelings on the pairing without being shouted at or made to prove to someone why they like/dislike something.

I'm telling you to back off. If you do not, you'll receive a formal warning. It's enough, with the shouting and the caps and the bolding of text. If you can't handle dissenting opinions on the Mac/Stella pairing, don't post in here. You're more than welcome to defend the pairing all you want, but to turn around and attack others for not liking it is not acceptable. Got it?

Now, back on topic, folks...

 

[Andromeda]

Well, as Melina has written this episode, I´m confident that she will handle this Mac/Stella-chemistry thing in a subtle way. Rather than putting them together in a romantic way, I think it´s got to do with "refreshing" their friendship that had suffered quite a bit because of this Diakos-story.
They do have a special chemistry, that´s for sure, but Melina always pointed out in interviews that she thinks, turning this into romance might spoil the whole thing.
I wouldn´t mind them having a relationship, but it would have to be treated in a sensitive way, story-wise. So what I don´t want to see is a wedding, the two sitting on a rock at the sea and watching the Greek sunset and other kitsch-scenarios. Get it, Melina :lol:?
But again, I trust in Melina considering this, as well as with the story about her mother. She loves this Stella-character too much to ever do (or write) something stupid that would spoil her.

 

[GregNickRyanFan]

I like the chemistry between them and I'm a Smack shipper. However, I am not sure that spoiler means that they are going to be together. Honestly, I think the writers wouldn't do that right now. It is possible that in the very last episode of the entire series, that the writers might put them together then... but as for right now, the timing probably isn't ideal.

 

[GTuruturu]

It is possible that in the very last episode of the entire series, that the writers might put them together then... but as for right now, the timing probably isn't ideal.

see that's what i think too, i think i remember an interview with either melina or gary saying that if it did happen it wouldn't be until way in the future, say the end....saying that i do love thier little things...

..the kiss in season one, makes my heart flutter in its innocence, and when they fight its just so much fun to watch....i want a fight!

i'm not smacked, but i'm not against the idea, but personally, i think its the most fun when we see loving FRIENDLY fights and arguements that show just how much the people actually CARE for each other...that doesn't have to mean love-love, just love.

 

[Faylinn]

Top41 said:

Adam/Hawkes

*perks up*

 

[Ghawazee]

Usually i am not a quarreler however it's totally unpolite to ask me to be confide inside the Smacked Thread as an animal in the zoo. I have had nice debates with PerfectAnomaly. Why can't be all like her? or it's too bad to expect a debate?

if we can avoid throwing around words like hypocritical, that would be great, as it doesn't really further the discussion.

I didn't use it. Someone else did referring to me (Page 12). Of course someone else can insult me but i am guilty for reacting. So bad

Caps complaints? i am not shouting by giving emphasis to a point just someone else did when my post was quoted

And regarding the episode i was expecting patience instead of demanding you need to become into Smacked fans. Because the ugly remarks were there even before the episode is aired
To me, well i don't think something is going to happen except the lovely closeness that has been a trademark for them along all these years

Finally, if you want i can leave the forum. Ask for it and you will be pleased. But you have a serious problem and my leaving because some people are protected by all means (at least i feel in that way) in detriment of faithful posters

Débora

 

[Top41]

Usually i am not a quarreler however it's totally unpolite to ask me to be confide inside the Smacked Thread as an animal in the zoo. I have had nice debates with PerfectAnomaly. Why can't be all like her? or it's too bad to expect a debate?

You can, but you need to tone it down a bit.,

if we can avoid throwing around words like hypocritical, that would be great, as it doesn't really further the discussion.

I didn't use it. Someone else did referring to me (Page 12). Of course someone else can insult me but i am guilty for reacting. So bad

I know that--that was directed at the poster who used it, though she has already apologized and backed off, I see.

Caps complaints? i am not shouting by giving emphasis to a point just someone else did when my post was quoted

And regarding the episode i was expecting patience instead of demanding you need to become into Smacked fans. Because the ugly remarks were there even before the episode is aired
To me, well i don't think something is going to happen except the lovely closeness that has been a trademark for them along all these years

That's great. Just don't go after other posters who don't feel the same.

Finally, if you want i can leave the forum. Ask for it and you will be pleased. But you have a serious problem and my leaving because some people are protected by all means (at least i feel in that way) in detriment of faithful posters

Débora

No one is asking you to leave the forum--simply to not to insult other posters and go after them for not agreeing with you. You need to chill out. That's all I'm saying. Not telling you to leave, though I would recommend taking a break from the spoiler thread for a bit since you seem to be having difficulties handling this discussion.

 

[Plenilunio]

I like the chemistry between them and I'm a Smack shipper. However, I am not sure that spoiler means that they are going to be together. Honestly, I think the writers wouldn't do that right now. It is possible that in the very last episode of the entire series, that the writers might put them together then... but as for right now, the timing probably isn't ideal.

I hope they don't go from simple potential and nothing tangible to teh luuuuurve in the blink of an eye. It would made me nearly as happy as the development of the DL storyline :scream: Also, if there is nothing definite before the very last episode ever, I don't want anything rushed to make them oh so happy and together forever and ever *"My heart will go on" plays in the background* I'll just stick to your average open ending, thankyouverymuch.

..the kiss in season one, makes my heart flutter in its innocence, and when they fight its just so much fun to watch....i want a fight!

Me too! I love it when they have one of these huge catfights that make you wanna hide under the desk! Apparently, we'll have one of those when Mac discovers what Stella's been up to. He's an idiot if he doesn't know already, but I'll pretend to believe he doesn't know a thing because he suddenly has lost his sleuth's instinct. I guess he'll confront her and she'll go to Greece leaving her badge behind. I just can't see it happening as a calm conversation. They'll both be terribly mad and I always imagine Stella slamming her badge on his desk. Gawd, sounds great to me! :thumbsup: