Yelina Salas #2: 'Get Back To Where You Once Belonged'

I loved Yelina on 'ER'. I didn't even notice it was her at first, but I remembered her when someone told me that she was on. It was kinda weird though. Young girl - old guy relationships never really were my kind :p.
 
No way! I liked her the minute she came on screen! She's so beautiful and you could sense the tension and chemisty between H and her instantly.

I wanted them together from the get go. Plus I liked the fact that she's a working single-mom. It made me admire her for what she was doing.
 
That'd work for me, if it was H in the bed instead of that old guy..
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Yup it'll work for me too! :devil: If ever they have that scene on Miami with H/Y I'll fall out of my sofa.
 
I would never wash my eyes again.. We should let the writers know that, give them a lil inspiration..

Gives me an idea for photo manip

it's going in the H/Y thread :p
 
DaWacko said:
Hrockz said:
DaWacko now I'm curious as to what's the word you used when Yelina was introduced.
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Erm...I think the word was 'beyatch' :lol: Luce and Tally can confirm this :p

But the more they had her, more I started to like her :D
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Yep, I can confirm! ;) It didn't take too long for our dear Ducky to see the light though. Good times. :D

I personally didn't think Yelina seemed 'weak' as such in Rio. H was very much on a mission for one thing. It was clear that Yelina was getting increasingly unhappy about Raymond returning to his old habits and she was determined not to let her son follow in his footsteps, but was almost powerless to stop him. She also followed Ray Jnr to Miami to track him down and protect him. I would say her strength of character held firm, but the writers certainly need to give her something good to work with.

Hrockz, I appreciate that you haven't seen all of Rio yet though. It will be interesting to read your thoughts once you have seen it all in context. :) I agree that looking at some of the footage alone, she did appear to be playing second fiddle to H, but as I mentioned, he was in control-freak mode.
 
lievetak said something about being embarrassed to admit watching 'Desire"
Just so you won't feel alone, I personally did not miss an episode! And I loved it. As you said, if you don't take it too seriously, it was funny. And SM's character portrayal(sp) of Victoria Marston was a scream! She made being evil look positively fun! Actually it did not ruin my image of her as Yelina. It only proved that she is a very versatile and funny actress.
 
Ok Luce you're right. I haven't seen the whole of 'Rio' yet so I can't comment on it much, or maybe my interpretation of it was wrong.

I'll get to see it later in the year, I'll post my thoughts on Yelina after I've seen it then.

Personally I've admired her character greatly and think she's really a good match for H. So I'd really like to see her show her strong side. I don't like to see H with women who come crying to him for everything (ie Marisol) and Y always seemed to be the opposite of that. Although admittedly H did take care of Y alot from s1-s3 but she was still able to handle things herself. Besides H helping Y get over Ray Sr, if I'm not wrong the only time she went to H for help was when she needed help with Ray Jr. Which was understandable since Ray would respect his uncle and and it would be easier to have man-to-man talks between H and Ray Jr.
 
Just so you won't feel alone, I personally did not miss an episode! And I loved it.
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Yay! Thanks, silk. Now I don't feel quite so alone, lol. And I agree - if anything, it just showed how versatile Sofia is as an actress.

As for a "weak" Yelina - I think one of the worst aspects of this show is that every character, male AND female, is really used to service Horatio. I don't watch CSI:NY, but LV certainly seems to be more of an ensemble show. But with Miami, Horatio is the main character; he's the hero, and everyone else comes second to that.

Obviously, that can make for some great moments, but at the same time, I think it really limits what each of the characters can do and how they can respond in the various situations. In "10-7," for example, Yelina's son is kidnapped, but it wouldn't be CSI:Miami if she were to shoot the baddies and save her kid. Instead, Horatio, as the hero, is the one to rescue Ray Jr.

For me at least, it's this dynamic that made me not like season 4 that much because that season really tried to heighten his hero status. And, as I said, it's a general complaint I have of the show - that some of the characters aren't really allowed to be full, well-rounded characters because they come second to Horatio (another example: how the Marisol storyline left Eric out a lot of times).

With "Rio," some of those same issues come up. Obviously Yelina can't run around Brazil saving her son because then what would Horatio do? ;)

I agree that there was something different about her character in that episode; she was quieter, not as sure as she was in the past perhaps, much more vulnerable, but I wouldn't call that being "weak."

It was clear that Yelina was getting increasingly unhappy about Raymond returning to his old habits and she was determined not to let her son follow in his footsteps, but was almost powerless to stop him.
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I agree with that. I'd also add that, as angry as she was with Ray Sr, Yelina was also perhaps...ashamed/embarrassed that things had fallen apart so quickly. Apologizing to Horatio seems very telling. So I'd say that was also playing a part.

Not to mention, when you haven't seen someone for a year, things naturally tend to be somewhat uncomfortable, and I think that it would be odd if the two weren't guarded in any way with each other.

So I don't really see this being weak a la Marisol, who was always that way. At best, this was a moment of weakness, born out of the multiple deaths surrounding their family (as well as Ray Junior's life being threatened in that moment). And I think it's these moments that endear us to H/Y.

After all, strength doesn't necessitate perfection, and characters who are only portrayed in one way are boring, unrealistic, and fundamentally unlikeable. It's important that a strong woman, like Yelina, can be vulnerable around Horatio, just as it's important to see Horatio be vulnerable and unsure around her.

I'd only be worried if the next scene we see with H/Y is the exact same thing as before. But given the spoilers, that Yelina will have a job and that it'll tie into the case, etc, I don't think it's possible for her to be extremely weak in that scene. Thankfully! :)

:eek: - this post is long!
 
A long post but well thought out. Apologies if I seemed too harsh on Y, didn't mean to. She's my fave. What I meant to say is that I hope to see her show her stong side again.

In no way did I mean she was wek in asking H for help in 'Rio' and the other instances. I meant to contrast her with Marisol.

Your interperetation of Y and Ray Sr in 'Rio' is very accurate. Thay have been apart for a long time and H coulnd't expect them to just pick up from where they left off.

After all, strength doesn't necessitate perfection, and characters who are only portrayed in one way are boring, unrealistic, and fundamentally unlikeable. It's important that a strong woman, like Yelina, can be vulnerable around Horatio, just as it's important to see Horatio be vulnerable and unsure around her.
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I couldn't agree more with that. It's what makes H/Y so special that they feel comfortable enough with each other to show their weaknesses to each other.

I'd only be worried if the next scene we see with H/Y is the exact same thing as before.
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I was worried about that too. But as you said I don't think it's the case.
 
lieveitak said: "I agree with that. I'd also add that, as angry as she was with Ray Sr, Yelina was also perhaps...ashamed/embarrassed that things had fallen apart so quickly. Apologizing to Horatio seems very telling. So I'd say that was also playing a part.

Not to mention, when you haven't seen someone for a year, things naturally tend to be somewhat uncomfortable, and I think that it would be odd if the two weren't guarded in any way with each other."

I agree wholeheartedly with you. You have to add into the equation that she knew he had been married to Marisol and lost her, and that if he loved Marisol enough to marry her, then maybe his feelings for Y might no longer valid. Also, she was in a country where law enforcement is often more corrupt than the criminal element and she knew that H's ability to help find Ray Jr. in a place where he had no jurisdiction might be hopeless. She certainly would have been no match alone for what Ray Jr. was involved with by herself. I'm sure she WAS feeling frightened, unsure and vulnerable. I would have been concerned if she had taken a 'take charge' attitude because that would have been way out of character for the circumstances. And if she were that capable of handling things on her own, she wouldn't have needed to ask our H for help and that would have been just no fun at all.
 
You have to add into the equation that she knew he had been married to Marisol and lost her, and that if he loved Marisol enough to marry her, then maybe his feelings for Y might no longer valid.
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Yup that's a very valid point. But at the end of 'Rio' when H said 'family' it assured her he still had feelings for her. If I were her I'd feel a little upset with the fac thtat H went off and got married so quick while she was away.
 
And if she were that capable of handling things on her own, she wouldn't have needed to ask our H for help and that would have been just no fun at all.
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i don`t remember Yelina to ask H for help in this epi ;) Horatio just come in Rio and start to play over protector hero as always. i still regret that tptb leave Yelina aside from this action in S5 premiere. ok H was there for revenge and Y is not a cop anymore. but this still don`t make sense to me one so strong woman like Yelina only to watch what happen around. we know that her chrarcater have more big potential. i just think that tptb have only 45 min to make this epi and they don`t have time to put more screentime/plot line for Y . hope this make sense :rolleyes:

You have to add into the equation that she knew he had been married to Marisol and lost her, and that if he loved Marisol enough to marry her, then maybe his feelings for Y might no longer valid.
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i don`t think so. after i have watch S4 there is no way for me H to marry Aerosol coz of love (of pity, yep) :rolleyes: and the way H look at Yelina in the begining of epi 'Rio', this make me think that he still have feelings toward his sister-in-law. i`ll add to this list and Hrockz comment for the last H quote - 'family' ;)
 
Pusher, I agree that H married 'aerosol' out of pity. We know that but at the beginning of RIO Yelina would NOT have know that. I also agree that it is very obvious to us that they still have feelings for each other, but if they had not seen each other in a long time, THEY would not and could not be sure of the others feelings. Still, you make some very valid points and I always look forward to seeing your point of view and take on things, even if I don't always share your opinion. That's what make this board great. (And sometimes you have even managed to change my mind, which is not easy to do since most of the time I am in an 'out-of-mind experience' state! Snrk!
 
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