Why Lindsay REALLY Must Go (Pt. 2)

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LivingEnd said:
That said, normally I hate dubbing. I think it takes away an important part of the actor’s work. And IMO, as good as the dubbing might be, it can never be as good as the original actor’s voice. I think it is really sad that the German actress who dubs Lindsay does a better job selling emotion than Anna is able to.

We're part way through the re-runs of Season 3, and last night was 'Sweet Sixteen'(yes where our Miss Monroe was bitten by a snake). Fortunately, we're at that time in the Season where Miss Belknap is heavily pregnant and therefore in fewer and fewer scenes. Unfortunately, she still has to earn her wage and speak :( Last night's effort (or lack of it) had her emphasising the price of the car to the point where I think my 7 year old could have done better even if she was speaking in German :p
 
cSiNyFrEaK30 said:
Aiden, Danny, and Flack all had great chemistry together..i could easily buy that the three were good friends, and if any of them ended up in a relationship together, it could be real and believable. This D/L thing was fake from the begining...

That's because Vanessa Ferlito could act. Chemistry is not some magical, mystical thing that you have or you don't. On screen chemistry is a result of great acting. And Anna is either not capable or not interested enough to do that.
 
If I can just comment on the D/L and GSR. I think the success of the Grissom and Sarah relationship is that it was never thrown into the viewers faces it was adult and mature.
Yes! That's it! Since the beginning, D/L was a chapter off teen lit. My friend often compares them to One Tree Hill for some reason haha.

GSR was NEVER in your face unlike D/L. And they weren't forced into a relationship since the intention was there already. Unlike D/L....

Danny and Lindsay were thrown together because the actors were clumsy and bumped into each other. That's hardly "chemistry." I don't know about Anna, but Carmine seems to be a bit of a klutz--he's tripped over a radio and on stairs on camera. Poor guy--he's really paying for it now.
I think it was Anna who was explaining it. I was like, "Whaaa? That's it? You guys blind?" The scene was very poorly made. Pathetic excuse.

react personally to yet another young female victim.

Probably to redeem themselves with the mothers issue.

I kinda expected hostility between Danny and Lindsey. After all, she's a "replacement" for Aiden. She came in IMMEDIATELY AFTER Aiden was fired. That would've been a better storyline. Instead, the (somewhat) hostility came from Flack.
 
chaostheory08 said:
I kinda expected hostility between Danny and Lindsey. After all, she's a "replacement" for Aiden. She came in IMMEDIATELY AFTER Aiden was fired. That would've been a better storyline. Instead, the (somewhat) hostility came from Flack.

Boy, do I remember those times. That was the time when I still had high hopes for Lindsay. I also expected the hostile/tense dynamic between Danny and Lindsay to continue. I have this feeling that was what the writers intended ... until that scene where Lindsay told Danny off for always calling her 'Montana'. It was probably meant to be a pivotal scene where Lindsay stood up for her, I dunno, roots or something, but all it did was make her come off as sulky and overly sensitive. You could see it in the way Danny reacted to her. It was like, "WTF? I was just teasing. Chill!"

Maybe that was when the writers figured Anna couldn't handle a hostile relationship story plot and went to the opposite extreme instead.

And I'm sad to say, she couldn't handle that either.
 
^ The "Montana" name-calling can be a source of hostility. But they turned it to a term of endearment. Bleah! And she acted like she didn't like it.... psh...

I was kinda hoping that Danny would sulk a bit after Aiden was fired. Like he'd be hostile to the one "replacing" her for an episode at least.
 
I also expected the hostile/tense dynamic between Danny and Lindsay to continue.
Me too. think it would have been interesting if there was a real competition between CSIs of the opposite genders in NY. We've seen it happen between Wolfe and Delko on Miami, and some Sara and Catherine in the beginning, even Sara and Sofia. If they had gone Danny vs Lindsay, who knows the potential storyline that could come out from that?

And I miss Aiden, too. She fit so much better with the team than Lindsay ever will. There was a real cohesiveness in season one that's been missing since Lindsay showed up.
I definitely agree. In Season 1, I felt the whole team was a team. With Lindsay, it increasingly feels like it's Lindsay vs The Rest of the Team, and now I'm afraid it'll be Danny And Lindsay vs The Rest of The Team. Even Peyton doesn't look like the odd one out, and she's the one with an exaggerated British accent! When will Lindsay stop sticking out like a sore thumb?
 
Actually, unlike the other two CSI shows, there is no inter-office conflict in NY. Sure Mac has butted heads with Danny, Sheldon, Flack and even Stella -- but hey, he's the boss.

When Wolfe came in and joined the gang, Delko (and even Calleigh and Alexx) were kinda hesitant to let him in. It's understandable why they did that. Speedle was their good friend. Wolfe was his replacement.

The same thing here in NY with Aiden and Lindsey. It was like they forgot totally about Aiden in "Zoo York".
 
chaostheory08 said:
Actually, unlike the other two CSI shows, there is no inter-office conflict in NY.
My point exactly. Lindsay coming in could have caused some major conflicts, except everyone loved Lindsay Sue so much that it was overlooked.
 
Further proof of what a Mary Sue she is. You would have thought at some point her methods would clash with someone else's on the team--it didn't even have to be Danny. Methods or philosophies clashing--something other than Little Miss Wunderkind proves herself time and again!

I think even if the conflict with Danny had continued for a while, we'd have ended up in the same place. I love how long the conflict between Delko and Ryan has carried on, how it's ebbed and flowed, but persisted. Of course, those are two characters of the same sex. A man and a woman, no matter how intensely they dislike each other, are bound to end up in bed together if they clash, right? :rolleyes:

Regardless, it might have played out better.
 
Kimmychu said:
I also expected the hostile/tense dynamic between Danny and Lindsay to continue. I have this feeling that was what the writers intended ... until that scene where Lindsay told Danny off for always calling her 'Montana'. It was probably meant to be a pivotal scene where Lindsay stood up for her, I dunno, roots or something, but all it did was make her come off as sulky and overly sensitive. You could see it in the way Danny reacted to her. It was like, "WTF? I was just teasing. Chill!"

Maybe that was when the writers figured Anna couldn't handle a hostile relationship story plot and went to the opposite extreme instead.

And I'm sad to say, she couldn't handle that either.

I completely have to agree. That scene was so forced and inanimate. The woman said the dialog as though she were reading the weather. Then again, that's how Anna delivers most of her lines...as though she were reciting them for the first time. She is not a good partner for Danny/Carmine (or anyone in the cast for that matter) who bothers to take the time to hone their craft and make their character appear to be an extension of themselves. [/rant] Sorry...it got away from me. :)

I'm still new and will play nice. :) Though I am very happy I found this forum because I was beginning to think that my cousin and myself were the only two people who actually wished that Lindsey never returned from Montana. :devil:

Take care,

Cat
 
Welcome to the forum, Catwoman! :D I agree completely about Anna's delivery of her lines--totally flat and as though she's reading right from the script. I don't know whether she's just that bad or she doesn't put any effort in, but she's totally unnatural.

Believe me, you and your cousin are not the only ones unimpressed with Lindsay! There are actually quite a lot of us. :)
 
Welcome to the thread Cat. I agree about Anna's delivery of her lines. Even her "emotional" deliveries, fall flat. It's like she's reading from a prompter or something. Whatever it is, she just needs to go now.
 
Hey Catwoman! It's nice to meet a fellow Lindsay hater =] join the club...

I'll never understand how people can think that her "emotional" scenes are so amazing and showcase Anna's "great" acting...I know that people's opinions are people's opinions, but it just seems blatantly obvious to me (and obviously to alot of others here) that she is nothing compared to the other excellent actors on the show and the other dynamic and layered characters.

(and could anyone please tell me where the Lindsay Monroe thread went? I never post on it, but i do like to read it to try and find out what it is exactly im supposed to like and admire about Lindsay, and it gives us more things to debate.)
 
Threads that have not been posted in for more than a week no longer show up under the default view on the forum page. At the bottom of the forum list, there's a little scrolling box where you can choose to view threads that are older (over the past few weeks/months/etc). Since the Lindsay thread hasn't gotten any new posts in more than a week, it fell off of the main page.

It's nice to meet a fellow Lindsay hater =] join the club...
Well, I wouldn't call myself a "hater", although other people have called me that. I'm definitely not a fan, though. ;)

I think sometimes people think that, if something is on a show or what-have-you, that it must automatically be good--and therefore, Lindsay must be a great character and Anna must be a great actress, simply because she's there. I'm not sure that makes total sense, but I know what I mean. :lol:

Or maybe it comes down to liking the idea of something, therefore wanting to love everything about it. If you want to like something, it's easier to make excuses or look past things another person might not ignore.

*shrug* Whatever the case, I don't want to make assumptions about why other people might like Lindsay. All I know is why I don't like her. ;)
 
I stumbled upon this old interview with Anna and her husband. Guess which parts made me laugh so hard I snorted Diet Coke up my nose:

From The Lincoln County Weekly
December, 2005


"Television star makes home town appearance"



DAMARISCOTTA - Anna Belknap is hooked on acting and has worked hard to become a regular feature on a network television drama. The 1990 Lincoln Academy graduate and daughter of David and Louise Belknap of Damariscotta spoke to drama students at Lincoln Academy on Dec. 19.


A regular on “CSI: New York,” Belknap and her husband Eric Siegel spoke of the pathways that they took to become recognized and marketable for television and the professional stage.


“We have very different experiences in the entertainment industry,” said Siegel who grew up in Los Angeles where everyone he knew was in show business.


Belknap, on the other hand, attended Middlebury College after graduating from Lincoln Academy.


“I knew I wanted to be an actor inside,” she said. “In the third grade my teacher told me I was an actress.”


Although during her college career she considered going into marine biology or law, as a sophomore she tried out and got a part in a play.


“It was an amazing experience, I was hooked,” she said.


After college she continued her experience with Middlebury's professional acting company while waiting tables. She then went to San Francisco to gain a masters through the American Conservatory Theater. She then moved to New York City.


“I did a lot of work in bad theaters that had rats in the dressing rooms,” she said.


Belknap was able to land a few bit parts in series such as “Law and Order.” That was followed by roles in “The Handler” and “Medical Investigations.” Her big break came this year as she was cast as Detective Lindsay Monroe in 14 episodes of CBS's, “CSI: New York.”


“Auditions are hair raising,” said Belknap of the process of passing several preliminary rounds before being brought before 30 network officials. “That is intense.”


Once part of the show, Belknap worked 16-hour days in order to shoot a few short scenes.


“We film everything out of sequence. You have to match the emotions. It is very internal,” said Belknap who said emotions are indicated by very small gestures but have to accurately continue the moods established in preceding scenes.


Siegel said he thinks he is more suited for the stage.


“I am more like a ham. I am loud and big,” he said. “It is very delicate work on camera.”


Belknap said you do not have to be glamorous to get into the movies but it helps.


“In Hollywood they like it when you are young and beautiful. If you are banking on your beauty you will be done when you are 30,” she said.


The key to her success she believes is understanding who she is and working hard to sell that image.


“You have to know who you are and go with that. Your face is telling a story,” she said.


Siegel reminded students that even if you make it to the big time stage or television, most of the time will be spent unemeployed between parts.


“Only 2 percent of the actor's guild is working,” he said.


“It is tough work but it is so rewarding,” added Belknap.
 
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