Season 8 Spoiler Discussion - There's Nothing You Can't Do In New York

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A bit of information about the premiere (I think I haven't seen it here before, though there's not a lot of new things in here):

Gary Sinise, who plays Detective Mac Taylor on the CBS show "CSI:NY," has been deeply involved in the funding and construction of the Brooklyn Wall of Remembrance, which honors 417 first responders who died on Sept. 11.

Friday night at 8, "CSI:NY" opens its eighth season with an episode that focuses on Taylor and the Wall, blending real life with the fictional storyline.

The episode might startle viewers who thought TV would be taking a break from Sept. 11 after several weeks of intense anniversary coverage were a little premature.

But this episode, which primarily focuses on the impact for survivors, lets the show have some dramatic closure of its own.

Taylor lost his wife Claire in the attacks – a loss dramatized at the end of the show's first season with Taylor looking through the construction fence at Ground Zero.

Taylor later stepped down from his position at the Police Department, partly to work with scientists analyzing DNA remains.

Claire's were never found.

He is technically on leave, but the interim chief, Jo Danville (Sela Ward), is convinced he will come back and wants that to happen.

Danville is overseeing tonight's new case, a murder during a bar robbery, while Taylor keeps trying to come to terms with his memories.

The show retraces much of what happened Sept. 11, with guest star Jaime Ray Newman as Claire. In one scene, she says, "What would you do without me?"

The storyline of Friday's episode has Taylor is working with retired Fire Chief Joe Vincent (Robert Forster), who lost his son that day, on creating the Wall.

Several families who suffered losses that day are included in the memorial scene of this episode, which is titled "Indelible."

source: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...iversary_gary_sinises_characters_wife_di.html
 
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I still want a scene where they do ID some of the remains as hers. The Mac and Reed scenes that come from it would be awesome.
 
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I still want a scene where they do ID some of the remains as hers. The Mac and Reed scenes that come from it would be awesome.

I don't know if I actually want them to ID her. There's a lot of people whom will never be ID'd and their families will have to keep on living and trying to find some sort of closure. I think that it would be a much stronger statement if Mac is able to move on in spite of never being able to ID her remains. Maybe it's not the nice closure which can happen on TV land but it's a much more realistic one given the subject matter and maybe people that went through that experience can somehow relate to Mac and draw some strength from it.
 
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I still want a scene where they do ID some of the remains as hers. The Mac and Reed scenes that come from it would be awesome.

I don't know if I actually want them to ID her. There's a lot of people whom will never be ID'd and their families will have to keep on living and trying to find some sort of closure. I think that it would be a much stronger statement if Mac is able to move on in spite of never being able to ID her remains. Maybe it's not the nice closure which can happen on TV land but it's a much more realistic one given the subject matter and maybe people that went through that experience can somehow relate to Mac and draw some strength from it.

I agree with this. I'd much rather have them not ID Claire.
 
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I think it'd work either way...it's just my opinion.
 
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I just saw this: Sinise defends 9/11 tribute episode. I haven't seen any criticism about the storyline (although I would understand where it's coming from if it's out there), so it sort of caught me by surprise. The article presents it as if there's been a lot of talk about it being exploitative or something, but I haven't seen that. :confused:
 
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I just saw this: Sinise defends 9/11 tribute episode. I haven't seen any criticism about the storyline (although I would understand where it's coming from if it's out there), so it sort of caught me by surprise. The article presents it as if there's been a lot of talk about it being exploitative or something, but I haven't seen that. :confused:
Hadn't heard rumblings, but the handful of various sites and/or feeds commenting on this seem largely based outside the states. (UK, incl. WENN, Australia). Although citing CNN as where the statement was obtained from, no one seems to specify who has issued the criticism, and CNN seems to have no related articles. *shrug*

I can certainly understand the sensitivity and the perspective, or even the saturation, but NY is hardly the first show or film to address 9/11. Seems a bit odd to level such when some 9/11 families participated in the episode, not to mention Dove & Reiter helming it.

News of NY doing this ep has been out for weeks. With the timing of this, it sounds mostly like a story for the sake of a story, on the day of the premiere.

I still want a scene where they do ID some of the remains as hers. The Mac and Reed scenes that come from it would be awesome.
I don't know if I actually want them to ID her. ....I think that it would be a much stronger statement if Mac is able to move on in spite of never being able to ID her remains. Maybe it's not the nice closure which can happen on TV land but it's a much more realistic one....
I agree with this. I'd much rather have them not ID Claire.
I sorta come down on the side of preferring Claire not be identified. At least not in this ep. Would feel a little to neat, just IMO, which is already addressing a lot. I think any future Mac/Reed scenes related to Claire would be just as interesting. If the show really wanna bring it up again down the line, so be it. I just think there is a power and poignancy in leaving it undetermined.

A bit of information about the premiere (I think I haven't seen it here before, though there's not a lot of new things in here):

Gary Sinise, who plays Detective Mac Taylor on the CBS show "CSI:NY," has been deeply involved in the funding and construction of the Brooklyn Wall of Remembrance, which honors 417 first responders who died on Sept. 11.

....He is technically on leave, but the interim chief, Jo Danville (Sela Ward), is convinced he will come back and wants that to happen.
Guess that's pretty much answered as expected, re Mac on Leave. Looking forward to seeing Jo in charge too.
 
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Here's a Matt Mitovich TVLine interview that talks about the premiere, Jo's storyline and the ever more important Dann - I mean DL storyline. :rolleyes:

CSI: NY Preview: Mac's Emotional Closure, Danny's New Family, and Jo's Blast from the Past

The strictures of the fall TV season didn’t allow CBS’ CSI: NY to air its 9/11-centric Season 8 premiere on the 10th anniversary of the terror attacks, but the episode is no less powerful.

Airing this Friday at 9/8c, the hour finds Gary Sinise’s Mac AWOL from the lab and instead lending his skills to help identify the remains of the more than 1,000 Trade Center fatalities still unaccounted for a full decade later. That understandably prompts Mac to flash back to the fateful day when he last saw his wife, Claire, but not before we first meet the beauty (played by Eureka‘s Jaime Ray Newman) who brought out the romantic within the otherwise rigid Detective Taylor.

Executive producer Zack Reiter shared with TVLine a look at the CBS procedural’s emotional season opener, as well as previewed what lies ahead for other members of the New York CSI lab.

TVLINE | How long ago did you first lock onto the idea that 9/11 was a day you wanted the show to revisit?
I don’t think that we actually locked until the end of last season, although it is something that we’ve talked about for some time. Gary Sinise came to me and the other writers wanting to do something that revolved around 911 — specifically featuring the Brooklyn Wall of Remembrance, which is a memorial to the 416 first responders who died on 9/11. Apparently they were about halfway through building it when they ran out of money, and Gary and his Lt. Dan Band were instrumental in helping to raise finds to complete the project. We had been kicking around ideas here and there, knowing that the 10th anniversary of 9/11 was getting closer and closer, and it all seemed to come together in that moment of featuring that wall in the storyline.

TVLINE | What was most important to you when casting Mac’s wife, Claire?
It was incredibly important that we cast somebody who can bring out a side of Gary that maybe we haven’t seen in the last seven years. What’s kind of beautiful about seeing a flashback with him and Claire is not so much to see the woman that he was with and feel that heartbreak of knowing she passed away on that day, but more to see the smile on Mac’s face and the love that he had in those moments – and seeing how [losing her] that changed him. The personality you see — his sternness, the seriously conservative nature — is largely a product of how his life changed on that day.

TVLINE | Is revisiting that turning point going to free him in a way, take a weight off his soul?
No doubt. You’ll feel and you’ll know at the end of the episode that he derives a certain amount of closure from the [anniversary] — and from the specific act that he makes at the end of the day. I won’t give away what that is, but I hope that what we convey is that he’s gotten a bit of closure and is able to move on, in many ways — in his job, in everyday life, and towards the end of the season in a way that he’s able to open up and have a relationship that is more meaningful than maybe some of the past ones he had, because these walls were up.

TVLINE | Beyond what Mac goes through in the premiere, are there any other back stories you want to explore this season?
One we intend to explore is Jo’s. What we would like to delve into is some of what we gave you last season, with regards to why she left D.C. and decided to join the New York lab. There is the history of that case, the D.C. rapist, where she felt compelled by her legal obligation to disclose certain information, and in doing so it resulted in the acquittal of a rapist. She went through a lot of grief and condemnation, and that caused her to maybe make the move, and some of that history comes back. The same way Mac gets a little closure with respect to his personal life, we’re hoping that Jo can get some closure with respect to this fairly traumatic, haunting event in her life.

TVLINE | What will be the biggest ripple effect of Danny being an NYPD sergeant?
It probably has to do with Lindsay. We’re very careful to not have any kind of frustrations that are born out of him having this new job, and they’re on different schedules. We didn’t want it to become whining, which can get very old very fast. Nobody out there wants to see this couple going, “Aww, I don’t see you enough!” Kill me now. Not fun. [His new job] creates a little bit of a wedge – there is some frustration – but it’s actually more fun to see how they deal with it and come out on top. Beyond that, without giving too much away, some of the stuff that happens with Danny is about how he left one family, and when you become a sergeant and supervise a certain number of uniformed officers they become your new family. What we explore is what he learns about his new family, how that differs from his [CSI] family, and how that weighs on his mind.

TVLINE | Danny’s new, female partner (played by Jeananne Goossen – what are you going to do with her and what are you not going to with her? Fans of course assume the worst….
Of course they do. [Laughs] She plays his driver. We thought it would be very fascinating to see is Danny in a supervisory and teaching role. After all, he’s rash, he doesn’t always make the best decisions, and over the years we’ve often seen Mac chastise him. Mac has had to take him to the side and say, “What the hell’s the matter with you? You need to be smarter about this.” We wanted to see him in the role of now having to supervise younger cops who are making those mistakes, but always check himself and go, “I was that guy. I made those mistakes.” [His partner] fulfills that role, that dynamic.

TVLINE | She is pretty, though….
But still believable as a New York City police officer. Obviously because she’s female and pretty, and when you’re a sergeant’s driver you spend an inordinate amount of time sitting next to that person, it’s natural to assume that you develop a bond… and that bond might become more than just a bond. To be completely honest, Danny and Lindsay are going to be fine. They’re going to come out OK. [Exec producer] Pam Veasey said it best: “Are you going to see some sparks? No. But you may see a flare or two.”

I'm so looking forward to the premiere and the look into Jo's past with the rape case.

I'm so sick of the Danny storyline being overshadowed by trying to reassure fans DL will be fine because they're not together all the damn time and another vagina is within a 200 mile radius of Danny. :rolleyes:
 
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I wonder about the storyline that pops up repeatedly in fanfics with "Claire was pregnant"...I kinda hope they don't go that route. It'd be too fanfic-y for me, much as I love fic.
 
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... We didn’t want it to become whining, which can get very old very fast. Nobody out there wants to see this couple going, “Aww, I don’t see you enough!” Kill me now. Not fun. ...
Not fun at all.

I'm looking forward to the stuff from Jo's past. I want to look forward to Danny's storyline, but I'm kind of over it already.
 
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... We didn’t want it to become whining, which can get very old very fast. Nobody out there wants to see this couple going, “Aww, I don’t see you enough!” Kill me now. Not fun. ...
Not fun at all.

I want to look forward to Danny's storyline, but I'm kind of over it already.

It's hard to look forward to it when the interview ignores everything about the individual Danny stuff to focus on DL drama that evidently isn't there anyway. :rolleyes: :(
 
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I love how she put "See Danny in Uniform" in the headline. :rolleyes: Always focusing on the important stuff, that Kristin. :shifty:
 
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Aww doesn't Don look gorgeous in his uniform(i know it's bad saying that but i can't help but notice) and it was nice to see him helping out that woman)

(it's OT but does anyone know how far behind or in front time wise New York/US or wherever the premiere is showing is to the UK?)
 
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I still want a scene where they do ID some of the remains as hers. The Mac and Reed scenes that come from it would be awesome.

I don't know if I actually want them to ID her. There's a lot of people whom will never be ID'd and their families will have to keep on living and trying to find some sort of closure. I think that it would be a much stronger statement if Mac is able to move on in spite of never being able to ID her remains. Maybe it's not the nice closure which can happen on TV land but it's a much more realistic one given the subject matter and maybe people that went through that experience can somehow relate to Mac and draw some strength from it.

I agree, let Mac ache and have the not so clean closure. He needs to stay vulnerable.
 
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