Season 11 "Spoiler Lab" Discussion

[SpasmThatCat]

The average viewer of CSI is a little bit older than 10-16 years old. Why is CSI trying to get higher ratings in a demographic it doesn't even normally get? First Boom Girl and now Bieber? No more, TPTB!:scream: I mean anyone remember how bad Rascal Flatts was in Unshockable last season? *shudders*

I think that Rascal Flatts plotline was the weakest I've ever seen. I could have done better!

But consider this: if they're aiming at a ratings boost by including Beiber, and his fans are all 10-16 years old, they're going to have to make that a pretty tame season-opener. I don't know about the US, but a lot of the time CSI has a warning about graphic scenes in front of it here in the UK. What parent is going to let their 10-16 year old watch that, even if Beiber IS in it? They'd have to drop the rating for that episode if that's what they're planning, and that doesn't bode well for a season premiere where they want to get people interested enough to watch the entire season...

 

[byline]

Yeah, I agree that the most probable reason for her leaving is that they did paint her into a corner. By this last season, her character became defined by the relationship with Hodges and her desire to become a CSI. And last season they basically said that neither were going to happen.

Exactly. That's what I was trying to say, but you and GregNickRyanFan said it better. My wording wasn't very clear.

In my previous post, I should have written that "I think the issue with Wendy's character is that she was developed (not created) by TPTB specifically for two reasons: as a possible replacement for Sara out in the field, and as a love interest for Hodges." The way the character was developed is what painted her into a corner. Had they stuck more closely with the character as originally created, there might've been more leeway.

However, keep in mind that this is the same man who tweeted this:

"Mascara". Friedkin killed that teaser. It's not the most popular CSI ep cuz it was so different. But that's what I liked about it.

Praise for "Mascara". Think about it...

Well, my husband and I liked it, and so I would tend to agree with Dustin Lee Abraham's assessment. Just to show that not everyone disliked that episode.

It may just be the case of one Brit appreciating another Brit's dry sense of humour but I had to grin when I read Siena Guillory's tweets. I think she displays an easy going manner which I like. This might just be a case of British vs. American humour

Could be. I got the sense that she definitely does not take herself too seriously, and is quite happy to poke fun at herself. And I also think we know waaay too much about what these folks are saying and thinking, thanks to tweets and the like. IMO, they're probably best left ignored by the general populace.

 

[blackflag]

Personally I think TPTB are doing it simply because they can. Think about it - CSI isn't going to go off the air because a 'special' guest star who wasn't an actor in the first place can't act. And you never know, they might catch lightening in a bottle (as the saying goes!). Turn, Turn, Turn was a great episode and Taylor Swift, while not spectactular was better than most expected her to be. While I've done my best to ignore this kid I'll hold my judgement on him (as an actor [just don't ask me to listen to his music!]) till I've seen what he can do. At least he seems to be going about this seriously. I just hope that this acting coach doesn't do more harm than good. :thumbsup:

I have more of a problem with this storyline being continued later in the season. Not every season has to have a serial killer or episodes that are "to be continued" at some point later in the season. What's wrong with having 23/24 episodes where the individual crime(s) are wrapped up in the 43/44 minutes of that episode?


Susan

 

[Dizzney]

Yeah I actually have a problem with it being another continuing storyline too. I mean last season's Jekyll story really disappointed me. Maybe they will do better with this one...maybe.

Overall as long as we still see a lot of our main cast members on the show, I will be happy.

 

[GregNickRyanFan]

It might be interesting if this kid that Justin is playing has some sort of connection to Hannah. Maybe he has some kind of evidence on her that can finally put her away. She's gotten away with too much already.

 

[Leggo my Jodieo]

Oh HELL no.

Justin Bieber on CSI???? Give me hope that he turns out dead :wtf:

My little sister is 9 years old and even she thinks he is annoying. I've got nothing personal against him; he just irritates me with his music and the personality he seems to get across.

Taylor Swift was great in Turn, Turn, Turn but I can't stand Bieber so I may not be watching the season premiere.

OH MY GOD. I'd never thought I'd say that.

 

[PraetorCorvinus]

However, keep in mind that this is the same man who tweeted this:
Praise for "Mascara". Think about it...

Well, my husband and I liked it, and so I would tend to agree with Dustin Lee Abraham's assessment. Just to show that not everyone disliked that episode.

Too true. I made a generalization when I shouldn't have. I'm just weary of all the hype. Plus, even if Bieber wasn't good, DLA wouldn't have been able to say so. The only thing he can give is praise or lose his job. Like I said, I'm weary.

 

[ladyhunter]

My initial reaction was like that of everyone else... WHY? He's so young, has a very young fan base and well can he act???

I'm still uncertain if I'll watch the premiere or not. I think only one thing (or person) could make me watch..... a certain *cough detective cough*

What I am saying is that Young Mr. Bieber could *gasp* surprise us all. Again, not saying he will, I'm saying it's a possibility.

What gets me is that there is thousands of talented actors/actresses out there to star on CSI. For instance let's say... Liz Vassey. Oh wait, got rid of her.
Lauren Leigh Smith, wait got rid of her too. Louise Lombard, yep her too.

What I see, it comes down to letting a bunch of talented people go to hire a very young 'star'. ( I use that word sparingly) instead of the talent they already had.... :wtf:

I hope this is CSI's last season. Because they can't keep making decisions like this one and expect to keep a loyal fan base...

 

[Smokey]

It might be more tolerable if CM and co. weren't gushing all over him and making those ridiculous comments about it being 'true event television'. That's kind of embarassing.

Agreed. The article even uses the word "gushing" to describe it. I really don't understand how they can think this will be a "treat".

Although...a girl at work said her three daughters already have their calendar marked with the date. But still....what's the point in attracting children to the show?

And lord help us...he's going to come BACK later in the season. Maybe for more than one more episode. That's a BIG risk if the premiere bombs.

 

[DJRideout]

I received this little article (2 pages) today and thought I'd post it up. It touched on a lot of things we, as fans, all have been saying for the past while, which I thought was interesting. Yet at the same time, touching on the latest spoilers released...and has eased my mind a little about Wally's return....

Though I am still undecided about certain aspects of this article....

And while I am, personally, not sold on Justin Beiber and his presence in the premiere, someone did mention that it is possible that he could do better then we all expect. As it makes my skin crawl just thinking this, I think we should all try to keep an open mind in regards to this. :lol:

And lord help us...he's going to come BACK later in the season. Maybe for more than one more episode. That's a BIG risk if the premiere bombs.

If that happens....you know they'll pull the plug on his possible return later into the season. Tptb are good at doing that.

 

[PraetorCorvinus]

And lord help us...he's going to come BACK later in the season. Maybe for more than one more episode. That's a BIG risk if the premiere bombs.

Ah, but how many times in the past have we been 'promised' something that isn't delivered? Or storylines that just vanish off the face of the earth?

I'm with ladyhunter in hoping that this is the last season. Now don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the show. But the quality of such seems to be on increasingly shaky ground as the seasons roll by. I'd rather see the show end on a relatively high note, and with most of the original cast, then... well... not.

From DJ's article:

Seeing those storylines come to an abrupt end like this is frustrating enough, especially when there are rumors that they are going to give Hodges a new interest in the coming season to help him forget Simms.

I'm sorry but that really pisses me off.

 

[Speedystokesgirl]

Maybe the need a new showrunner. I mean they really need to start to listen to the fans.

I'm all for them trying something new, but stick to what works, as well.

We have invested in the show and the characters. Yes, I'm all for new viewers coming in, but don't alienate the ones (us) who have stuck through it all.

And do a ratings ploy to bring in new viewers that are too young to watch the show and who will not stick around after the show.

 

[myfuturecsi]

Maybe the need a new showrunner. I mean they really need to start to listen to the fans.

I'm all for them trying something new, but stick to what works, as well.

We have invested in the show and the characters. Yes, I'm all for new viewers coming in, but don't alienate the ones (us) who have stuck through it all.

And do a ratings ploy to bring in new viewers that are too young to watch the show and who will not stick around after the show.

I think they should just end the show with all this stuff. Seriously, getting rid of Liz Vassey and then bringing in JUSTIN BIEBER for a story arc. Give me a freakin' break, these guys have run out of ideas and it's time to say adios CSI!

 

[Propto]

Justin Bieber on CSI? *shock*

Ugh.....

I can't stop thinking about how weird It would be....anyone evere watch his video music? His facial expression is weird... IMO.

I was hoping he is dead on CSI, and then... Turned out he will be in more than one episode...

I will watch the season premiere, but with misery.

 

[byline]

However, keep in mind that this is the same man who tweeted this:
Praise for "Mascara". Think about it...

Well, my husband and I liked it, and so I would tend to agree with Dustin Lee Abraham's assessment. Just to show that not everyone disliked that episode.

Too true. I made a generalization when I shouldn't have. I'm just weary of all the hype. Plus, even if Bieber wasn't good, DLA wouldn't have been able to say so. The only thing he can give is praise or lose his job. Like I said, I'm weary.

That's definitely understandable. I'm not a "hype" person either, and am not crazy about stunt casting. But, by and large, I have found that when "CSI" does it, it turns out reasonably well, so for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But, by the same token, I'm not going to get all "Rah rah" over the publicity, either.

That's part of what I mean about "knowing too much" nowadays. I believe we're too plugged in to the publicity machine, and it results in hype fatigue. I'm starting to think it's just better to ignore all this stuff, and tune in and see what happens.

I was hoping he is dead on CSI, and then... Turned out he will be in more than one episode...

Danny Bonaduce was in more than one episode . . . but his character was dead crack off the bat.