Season 11 "Spoiler Lab" Discussion

I kind of agree with you.As much I love Greg he isn't the same anymore(unforunately)Back in CSI's early years he was great but in the later seasons he seemed to forget his sense of humor.

 

I'm not that great at character analysis, but I'll give it a shot . I think in Season 1-3 he was the comic relief, the crazy lab tech that everybody loved. Then after the lab explosion he became more serious, still jokey but a bit more responsible and sombre, understandable since he had nearly died. Then after he became a CSI from 5-8 he was still being seen as the new CSI, the rookie that although more serious was still young and jokey.

Then after Fannysmackin' he matured even more, being seen as one of the grown ups like Nick or Warrick instead of the little lab tech, even though it's only to an extent. When Ray came on Greg merged into the background, mainly because they were giving all the interesting plotlines to everyone else because they were new (Ray/Riley) or later in Season 10 when they got new jobs (Catherine/Nick) Sara coming back didn't improve things since any time left was mostly given to her, which means that there's been little to no room for any character development with Greg.

I mean, there were rumours about Greg getting a new job, and he expressed his frustration in the premiere, but it was dropped in favour of the whole Ray/Jekyll and even possibly Hodges/Wendy storyline. I think if tptb just stop and realise how much they're screwing with Greg they might actually improve on his character, instead of leaving us wondering just who the hell he is anymore :shifty:

 

You are not the only one! Jekyll was the biggest disappointment ever -- and that's from someone who loves serial killers. They built up all this complex stuff over the season, and in the end it came out to a shoot-em-up ending. WTF?
We're supposed to believe that the guy stupid enough to fall for Nick's dead act and who's hiding behind pillars with a shotgun crying about his daddy is the same person who sent Ray some proschiutto drawings? I don't believe it for a second.

 

I think the point was that Jekyll was a red herring and not the one we should have been worrying about all along, but Haskell. Still, it was a rather disappointing climax for a killer that seemed, up until that point, to be pretty devious. And it felt contrived and hastily conceived, almost like it was a Plan B (or C), with A getting thrown out for some reason. Hard to tell. I will say that it was a far better season finale than last season's . . . but that's not saying much, as there was nowhere to go but up on that one.

 

True. Now, my husband never reads spoilers (smart cookie), and he rarely reads the entertainment section of the paper, so as far as I can tell, he has no idea about the status of Laurence Fishburne's contract or Ray's fate for next season (and I'm not telling him; learned that lesson a long time ago). So for him, it truly was a cliffhanger. But he's probably a rare exception.

Still, it makes me wonder if TPTB have got something else up their sleeve. It seems awfully convenient to have released his contract info before the end of the season. So it makes me ask, "Hmmm, what's up with that?" Probably nothing.:devil:

 

Back to Greg, I noticed that no one has mentioned his book, about old Vegas, When he went out with Catherines mom cause' she had all kinds of news about old Vegas. He was in the midst of writing it then bam, Warrick got shot and we never heard about his book again They also never mentioned the cocoon that Sara recieved what happened to that? Sometimes the writers show continuity, and sometimes they don't. And I thought after "Fannysmackin", he would have recieved an award for that role. The court room drama, where he was pounded, yet he kept his cool. Compelling acting. but not a nodHe is a strong force on the show and I as well hope they feature a ep. where he's the top dog. But in saying that I'm happy that he's where this character is at, and he's in every episode, and still has his comedic comments, not like the early episodes, but he's matured and grown, so that speaks for it's self~

 

I find Greg a little boring since he became a CSI.He has spark with Sara ,Nick and Catherine but is not enough for me to care much if he is alone.I never realized why but now I agree that his chracter needs to be developed further.

 

I think one major problem is the fact that they have focused too much on the character Ray. As soon as he was introduced it was all about him, and his backstory. We knew more about him in one season than we did about any of the others. Unfortunately that means that Greg has been forgotten about slightly. I miss the old csi that focused on teamwork and each member at one point not one member and how the others react. Let's not forget that Greg isn't the only Csi that has taken a back seat this season, where has Catherine, Brass and Sara been? Catherine is the supervisor after all yet she has had very little screentime. Brass isn't the same and Sara although she has some good scenes she is still not a prominant as she should be. So i think the writers need to get back teamwork principle, and stop focusing on one member alone.

 

I have to agree with Electra about Greg. I did find him boring by himself, but when he is with Nick and Sara, he laugh and carry on, but not by himself. He is too serious now. Hodge took over the funny one. They need to developed Greg more.

 

First, I have to agree with you on the Rats episodes. I hated Field Mice for the fact that it was missing two and was basically a Wedges episode :klingon: For some reason or another tptb have sure been putting a lot of focus on Henry this season. Not that I'm complaining (I think he's adorable :lol but I think now I know more about him than I do Greg, which is a bit :wtf:

I think they just need to take a huge break from office romances...GSR has just finished yet we already have Wedges and Cath/Vartann, which is not only irritating for someone who's not a big fan of romance shows but it takes away from the sole purpose of the show, which is science and crime. I enjoyed seeing them solve the crimes when I was ten, I want to enjoy watching them solve crimes now!

:Subliminal messaging: More screen time for Greg! :Subliminal messaging: