"Redrum" Discussion **Spoilers**

she maybe too, is burnt out too!!! cause she's definately blowing it all the way around
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I don't think Cath is blowing it...first of all she did the best she could given the circumstances.

To be honest...if anyone is blowing it as you said...its the team in general. They automatically thought the worst in Cath, and purposely went against orders. So in perspective...they nearly screwed up the whole reverse forensic method.

This episode wasn't about Catherine screwing up. The undersheriff did...but that's besides the point. This episode was about the team not trusting Catherine or giving her the benefit of the doubt.
 
Nick blew it. He misconstrewed things and didn't know what was happening. Catherine did what she had to do and all in all, she got the killer.
 
That's probably why Nick is pissed. Cath went along with a stupid idea and Nick was the one to break the case by IDing Sara's victim as a player in the original case and putting the pieces together.

What comes out after Cath royally blew the faked scene and had the D.A. dismiss it. Yup, Cath saved the day :lol: After the fact that Nick tried to confront her, and she pulled rank on him. yeah, that was excellent leadership.

Cath did a stupid thin, but it's not the first time (remember Sam's case anyone?).

Nick's about to blow, so would I be. And what did this cost the lab? IRL head's would be rolling. :rolleyes:
 
Actually, Nick didn't blew it. Only one person blew is the undersheriff, he is the one that blew it, he was suppose to to talk the DA, but he didn't. Brass told him to talk to the DA and Brass also told him, "How he going to explain to the Sheriff?" He didn't said nothing, because he is in trouble, he just want to looks good with the press.

Nick and Sara got the killer. He knew the kid is innocence.
 
If your boss is about to indict a person you know is innocent, would you turn a blind eye? I know I wouldn't. It's a question of morals, and Cath has her own kind. Good thing there's someone stopping her.

Yay for the young turks, I wanna see more of them.

Good ep, but it would have been even better as a two-parter. it was a tad rushed at times.
 
vegaslights said:
Nick blew it. He misconstrewed things and didn't know what was happening. Catherine did what she had to do and all in all, she got the killer.
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Wow, I don't think we were watching the same show. Nick was the one that made the original connection between Sara's victim and Catherine's vic.

Catherine got edgy with Nick because he was on to her, and the fact that she was trying to make him look like a moron by sending him to stupid crime scenes and giving Warrick and Sara murder scenes.

I think he felt like this was the old days where Grissom showed no faith him and gave him benign cases.

His confidence was just starting to increase when he was kidnapped.

Catherine knows that Nick has a strong intuition about things, so she tried to send him on wild goose chases and this time he just wasn't having it.

And the fact that there was insinuation about the lab that he was being investigated by IAB didn't help. Remember, he had just had to deal with them over the stolen truck containing his evidence.

So, no, Nick didn't blow it. Catherine did. And she admitted it to her credit-an unCatherine thing to do-and Brass even told the UnderSheriff (the biggest jerk of all) that the plan didn't work.

Nick actually solved the case, but as usual, he didn't get credit for it and that's one of the million reasons he's pissed off.
 
S_Bright said:
If your boss is about to indict a person you know is innocent, would you turn a blind eye? I know I wouldn't. It's a question of morals, and Cath has her own kind. Good thing there's someone stopping her.

Yay for the young turks, I wanna see more of them.

Good ep, but it would have been even better as a two-parter. it was a tad rushed at times.
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See, a sensible sort wouldn't turn a blind eye, but they wouldn't sneak around plotting a coup d'etat, either. So far as I'm concerned, Nick came out no better than anyone else in this episode -- instead of addressing the issue openly and confronting Catherine or Keppler head on, he pulled exactly the same stunt they did. Does he actually think Catherine (or Keppler, but to be fair nobody seems to trust Keppler anyway) is that criminally incompetent?

And it's worth mentioning that, whether people like it or not, the "reverse forensics" thing worked. The idea wasn't to have that fake crime scene fool the team forever; both Catherine and Keppler knew it was impossible to stage the scene properly (lacking the brain and bone matter, for one, and how the heck was Keppler supposed to dust the bullet with bone and glass fragments, anyway?) so they did the next best thing -- keeping the others away from the evidence until their baddie finally resurfaced.

And it worked, mutiny or not. Had the Undersheriff actually cleared it with the DA, they could have had the man in custody while finally making the connections to the other murder.

And you know, I'd think people would see Nick's property crimes assignment as a compliment -- if Catherine wanted him that out of the way, it has to speak highly of her opinion of him. :)
 
Also Sara who is usually outspoken and critical, telling Catherine if she had anything to say to her it would be in private, surprised me - in a good way. Seemed to me it was a barb towards Keppler and not Catherine.
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Sara also learned her lesson from a few years ago when she verbally assaulted Catherine in a public setting at the lab and some co-workers and Ecklie overheard her. She was reprimanded by Ecklie, and if not for Grissom, she would undoubtedly have lost her job.

I'm glad that Sara learned a valuable lesson from her previous public meltdown at Catherine. If you have a disagreement with a co-worker or worse, a supervisor, take it behind closed doors and do not make a public scene.

That said, I was ecstatic that Sara made her feelings very clear to Catherine because frankly, I feel that Catherine deserved Sara's scorn.
 
LOL I wonder whose scorn it really is. If Sara really despises Catherine that much, I don't think she'd take it behind closed doors. The reason why she would talk to Catherine in private, apart from that she might have learned her lesson from the incident in Nesting Dolls, is probably that she actually respected Catherine and didn't want to embarrass her in front of other people. Being one of those who enjoy watching the girls work together and get along, I'd like to think they're friends who sometimes have a drink and a talk together. ;)
 
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