Re: Grissom&Sara #23 - Hot, Butt-Kicking, Chainsaw Wielding
yeah, you know one time i feel it's just impossible that it started only a couple of weeks earlier (WTG scene especially suggests it was longer) and the other time, i just can't get rid of the thought of how cute it would be if they made out the first time before TOYD eye-sex scene.
this is very true.
Time Of Youre Death does seem the first concrete evidence their together. its just possible to see it in so many different ways. the limbo theory seems possible too. that' thats when they decided, lets be together
but in the finale it very strongly gave the impression they had been together a long time. a significant enough time for them to be totally at ease and comfortable and for grissom to be totally open with her and his feelings. and like posted earlier in the thread, they were basically saying they loved each other. this wasnt something that had happened last week. it didnt seem new. so that finale gave the impression it had been going on a while...not that it had happened two eps previously. which brings me to-how much time between eps are we supposed to think has passed? cause i always assume not too long, so in that respect, it doesnt seem likely TOYD was the first time they had sex or got in a relationship should i say.
although the eye sex scene. i dont think grissom would be so blatently undressing her with his eyes, unless they were already in a relationship. that doesnt seem him. which brings me back to...
True, but for me it's just about the fact that in Room Service, Bite Me, ABRTI, Kiss-Kiss Bye-Bye and Daddy's Little Girl... the scenes were just SO "what was that?" that I couldn't help but assume it had been planned all season
i assume it was planned all season too. there are so many hints and scenes and it just makes no sense unless they had that plan all along. so in that respect TOYD been the first time they actually are physically together seems unlikely to me. the more we discuss the timeline here, the more confused i get.
a lot of us thought that TOYD was the jumping off point. Once we had them, and we found out per mystery that they'd been together for a while, we had longer to theorize and work out a timeline.
but i never actually watched any grissom or sara scenes prior to them not been together. i only started watching csi a few months ago. SO i never watched any of those scenes without knowing they wernt together, so i have a very canon like understanding of every one. but for those prior, who are saying before we knew they were together, they felt the scenes meaning and stuff different, can they explain, and explain which scenes they are refering to?
sometimes i worry we all read too much into scenes, analyse and pull apart scenes, and that the wriers just didnt put nearly as much thought into it as we do. but it does seem planned. and season 6 did seem to suggest something was going on, im not saying, in a relationship, but things were changing throughout the season that seemed to suggest big changes.
Snakes and Nesting Dolls been the trigger to the changes in their relationship, then progressivly through that season and 6. committed, grave danger, bite me, etc etc.
and in snakes, where he was ever so sweet and tender to her, and he got to her fast. she was smiling when he came into her house, and crying by the end, it took him like a minute to break down her walls that she had up. probably because she trusted him, and she wanted to talk to him about it, or that she had to. and i would hate to be discussing something with someone, or hiding it like she was at the beginning with someone whos job it was to notice tells, and unconcious stuff, and if you were lying and stuff....
also, i love how if Grissom hadnt been her boss, she'd have lost her job. if it had been up to ecklie. but Grissom comes to her house for an explantion, an ep after she'd told him how she feels, but he has no intention whatsoever of firing her either way. i think he wanted her to let him in...
but i love how he put himself on the line and covered for her 'saras behaviour is a direct result of my management'..when it was actually her own past that was giving her problems, not him at all. that he blamed himself knowing nothing would be done, using his professional leverage to save sara. thats so cute.
Well, Bite Me wasn't necessarily "good" GSR, but it suggested that their relationship was different from what it had once been.
In a strange way, with all of their quirks and their discomfort around each other, when they talked about sex in the abstract at work, there seemed to be a barrier through which they could communicate safely.
Swap Meet - "Found some porn" and "Problem with the lifestyle" being the most obvious choices, for me. They were very intimate with each other, but in a way that said, "If either one of us asks, we're just talking about work..."
Bite Me was the total opposite - almost an answer to Swap Meet
thats interesting. sarahvma could you expand on how you think it was a direct answer to Swap Meet almost? ..
i agree they seemed comfortable with potentially uncomfortable topics of discussion when they were working when they wouldnt have been probably otherwise so they used it as a shield almost. i noticed that in the 'found porn' scene they seemed comfortable. and that they were comfortable in the 'lifestyle' scene, but it always bugged me, he was interupted and never answered the 'you think their happy' question of saras.
or do you mean, they were fine talking behind the cover of the job in swap meet, but in bite me, it was blatently personal?
