Eric/Calleigh romance - why we dislike it. **spoilers**

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I don't know why, but I've been reding the last spoilers very very carefully and I found myself wondering some things which I'm sure will make most of us happy. I don't know how I feel about it yet, all I know is that I kind of feel relieved.

If you go on the spoiler thread you will find a post on 8x20
It is rather confusing, but in order to summarize it, I'm just gonna say that we have a scene with Calleigh in the hall of the hospital with a rather confused look since nobody seems to care about her. She also sees Eric, but he goes THROUGH her and he & H seem sad.
It later mentions she's still hooked up to some kind of machine which keeps her alive.

But since we don't know anything about Emily's contract and she really seems tired of the show...there is always the possibility......:shifty:

Well I'd feel just relieved
 
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I don't know why, but I've been reding the last spoilers very very carefully and I found myself wondering some things which I'm sure will make most of us happy. I don't know how I feel about it yet, all I know is that I kind of feel relieved.

If you go on the spoiler thread you will find a post on 8x20
It is rather confusing, but in order to summarize it, I'm just gonna say that we have a scene with Calleigh in the hall of the hospital with a rather confused look since nobody seems to care about her. She also sees Eric, but he goes THROUGH her and he & H seem sad.
It later mentions she's still hooked up to some kind of machine which keeps her alive.

But since we don't know anything about Emily's contract and she really seems tired of the show...there is always the possibility......:shifty:

Well I'd feel just relieved

Hey, sweetie! It's so good to see you! :D

I'm actually too scared to get my hopes up. Calleigh gone is something I want so bad that the character on total life support is truly good news to me. And that makes me sad. That this storyline has frustrated me so much that I would see a character's live hanging in the balance, and her possible death, as good news. :(

But again, I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in TPTB to clean this mess up. They seem to take some kind of perverse joy in jerking everyone around - the HipHuggers and those who don't care for the "ship."

I'm sure that she'll be resurrected in some pathetic, over-the-top dramatic scene. It'll be a "fanfic" moment, I'm sure. Something out of Sleeping Beauty. Eric will just have to give her a peck on the lips and she'll miraculously wake up all better. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And the circle-jerk keeps on going! Like CSI Miami isn't already considered a joke. :rolleyes:

Don't be a stranger, darlin'. I've been missin' ya. In fact you were about to get a PM asking were you were hiding yourself.
 
All I foresee is the both of them returning, I don't know but that's what I feel is going to happen. Also judging that most spoilers are about them and Eric will be popping back more frequent now, what else is there to think otherwise?

Each time Eric is back, he serves no purpose anymore other than to have the mandatory E/C moment.

This show will always be the E/C show until BOTH of them are gone. It will NEVER end because tptb thinks this is what the fans want so they keep feeding them all these soap opera drama. Else, it would have ended long ago.

When I read the spoiler for 8.20, gosh I don't even recognise what show I am watching anymore. Just for the purpose of the E/C soap opera, they actually went to such lengths. Calleigh can be anything she wants, and now even being a ghost.:rolleyes: Oh she won't die for sure, like Eric, they both have eternal lives. Ryan and Natalia would have to die first too.
 
I'm praying that Calleigh wakes up and the two just leave.Just ride off into the sunset together.Thinking they will both stay and continue to play out this romance is just too much. That would completely ruin the show for me.We would go back to all the crap that went on before.As I said in another thread, it would be a never ending saga.If Adam comes back and Eddie or Omar doesn't leave,I can see Miami doing a rotation like NY sometimes does.We will see episodes without Natalia(already being done)Ryan and probably Omar too.Emily can get whatever she likes,and now the network apparently will let Adam also get whatever he wants.I don't see this turning out positive for several other characters at all.
I wish they would both just leave,give them their own crappy show.
 
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I'm praying that Calleigh wakes up and the two just leave.Just ride off into the sunset together.Thinking they will both stay and continue to play out this romance is just too much. That would completely ruin the show for me.We would go back to all the crap that went on before.If Adam comes back and Eddie or Omar doesn't leave,I can see Miami doing a rotation like NY sometimes does.We will see episodes without Natalia(already being done)Ryan and probably Omar too.Emily can get whatever she likes,and now the network apparently will let Adam also get whatever he wants.I don't see this turning out positive for several other characters at all.
I wish they would both just leave,give them their own crappy show.

Yeah. I know how you feel, greatfan. I've been wishing for that for a long, long time. The "Eric Loves Calleigh" hour. :rolleyes: Spare the rest of us.

[spoiler="Spoiler Episode 8:20] I agree totally with you. We keep going backward and not forward because they can't seem to move past this silly little romance.

I'm not sure who is the driving force behind this, but I think we can let Caruso off the hook for once. I have a tendency to think it's Ann Donahue and Emily Procter - but that is just speculation - informed speculation - but speculation nonetheless.

And this teenage sex-romp has already proven that all other characters on the show will suffer for it. They are second class characters to these two and it doesn't matter who the charater is - even Horatio is put in the corner to keep E/C front and center.

If CBS and TPTB really believe that these two are that important and their fanbase that big and strong - spin 'em off. Give 'em their own show and let them run with it. It's clear that together these two characters haven't wanted to be a part of the team for a very, very long time. Cut 'em lose. They don't fit in with the show any longer.

I have a STRONG feeling that Ms. Procter would be a much happier camper is she were the lead character in her own show. Maybe that is the "tired" she is referring to. Tired of CSI Miami because she is not the lead when she believes she should be and she tired of fighting for what she perceives is her rightful lead status.[/spoiler]
 
I'll do my best not to be a stranger in here Delynn :p

I've been lurking a little bit in...well you know what kind of thread and I've read another interesting spoiler
By the end of the episode, Calleigh will flatline and the doctors will shock her more than once without any result. At a certain point, the nurse asks the doctor if they have to go on and he replies just telling her "NO".

Well as much it is thought she won't die even with this new twist, I can only say one thing.
Considering al the things which are going on both inside and outside the show, I really struggle to understand how it is possible she won't die :rolleyes:. From a realistic POV she has to die in the episode.

Also from a TV POV, the fact they actually make Eric go through her and she sees that damn light when she is a "ghost" (god I think her new nickname will be "ghost".....rather than "bullet girl" :lol:) is another clear sign that her character has to die. If they had wanted her to survive, they should have had her to see the others, to see dead people without interacting with any of them!!!!

OMG!!!! Unless Calleigh dies in this episode, this is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Though, I seriously doubt she will ever rest in peace....I still have the doubt she will be that kind of ghost who will hunt/protect her fellow collegues :rolleyes:
 
Oh Flo, please don't say that! :lol: I mean the part about her haunting/protecting the team.;) I really really really don't know what to think about this -- it just seems so ridiculous I want to imagine this spoiler is fake (I know it isn't though). Still, now not only do we get to say there's been hallucinations of ghosts, comas, bullets in head, we now get to add a character being a freakin ghost! :wtf: Lord have mercy, it can't get any worse.

I agree with you, Flo. This will make no sense to me unless she actually dies this time. I see no point in using this type of situation just to have them decide where they stand in thier relationship -- full circle my ass, if she wakes up to share a velveeta moment with Eric then it's just a damn REPEAT of 'SGIYC'.

Normally I can get into this type of 'Ghost' thing, but not on CSI:Miami -- I already have the image of Calleigh wandering around the lab trying to talk to people & then question her ghost friend if she's dead ......DUMB!
Man, if she grows wings & flies into the flippin' sunset I'll scream my head off.
 
What I really don't get form these spoiler, along with the whole "ghost" storyline, is the fact it's defined like "the defining moment of decision". I really don't get how it is possible.

Unless she actually dies in the episode, I really don't see what kind of choice regarding the couple is left to make. Even if she dies, there's no decision to be taken.
In the case she dies their relationship, OFC, won't go on and I can't say I'm that sad....actually I'm hoping she dies :lol:
If she, unfortuanetly survives, I highly doubt he'll leave her for whatever crappy reason TPTB find...it would be just moronic both from writers and characters.

All I can think of the episode is that it is utterly ridiculous (sorry by Calleigh's ghost is utterly ridiculous..not to mention moronic LOL). The only way to think any better of it is for Calleigh to actually leave us all by the end of it.
 
Well I've been thinking about what O'Brien said in that little snippet about the episode, & I'm one who thinks it shouldn't be taken literally....they're usually very careful in how they word these things. It's possible E/C already have thier little chat & make thier decision before Calleigh's incident, then O'Brien wouldn't have necessarily lied about that part if she still winds up dead. He didn't exactly say in which order these things would happen, or that they make the decison strictly because she faces death. Again, I'm going to take more from these episode details than I am O'Brien's words....it's a bit too fishy for me, & I have an incredibly hard time believing TPTB would really try to sell Calleigh just having an out of body experience....she's talking & interacting with a dead man for crying out loud! If she isn't dead, then this is really heading into supernatural territory -- it would be like them making us believe she has some kind of supernatural powers ...a bit too unbelieveable for this show.
 
I have an incredibly hard time believing TPTB would really try to sell Calleigh just having an out of body experience....she's talking & interacting with a dead man for crying out loud! If she isn't dead, then this is really heading into supernatural territory -- it would be like them making us believe she has some kind of supernatural powers ...a bit too unbelieveable for this show.
I will go on posting my thought regarding this stuff in a spoiler box just to be safe ;)
Yep, that's exactly the reason why I tend to believe she will die in the episode. I'm not saying this just because I define a very rational person and I am against all these crappy things TV some times tends to sell us. But....while I can understand/cope with her flatlining and seeing dead people during the cardiac arrest just because it is TV (not to mention that it already happened on TV) and then surviving, I can no longer accept it when she interacts with them. Whenever a person on TV interacts with dead people that's because that person is a damned dead one. Also on "Ghost Whisperer" they're all dead..the only thing they have to do is to get through the light. For god's sake, not onlyshe interacts with Patrick (btw like Patrick Sways from "Ghost"), but she goes throught that damn light.....on TV this means she's dead...nothing more, nothing less!!!

If she doesn't die in this episode, I will really have a hard time coping with the whole show!!! Maybe that is why O'Brien refers to something which may change the show. Again, I truely wish she dies for the shows' sake.
While I could want her to survive as a character, I really don't want her to survive...not in an episode like this 'cause, otherwise, it would really mean the end of the show....I wouldn't watch it anymore knowing they can enter in the "Twilight zone" whenever they want :rolleyes:
 
Oh Flo, please don't say that! :lol: I mean the part about her haunting/protecting the team.;) I really really really don't know what to think about this -- it just seems so ridiculous I want to imagine this spoiler is fake (I know it isn't though). Still, now not only do we get to say there's been hallucinations of ghosts, comas, bullets in head, we now get to add a character being a freakin ghost! :wtf: Lord have mercy, it can't get any worse.

Don't say the "it can't get any worse" thing cause that's just asking for trouble. :lol: This episode is sounding a little like a Grey's Anatomy episode (which I don't watch, but know about from relatives who do watch). It could get worse. This ghost storyline just sounds all too bizzare for Miami. I'm like you MJ, I keep hoping it's a joke and that tptb are pulling our chains. :lol:

Whatever happened to this season getting back to the basics? :lol:

Man, if she grows wings & flies into the flippin' sunset I'll scream my head off.

I've got that image in my head now. Looks kind of like a comic book cover and of course this show has been described as a comic book at times, so maybe that's fitting. Someone totally needs to make a manip of Cal with wings flying into the Miami sky.
 
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Flo and MJ -
Did you guys ever watch the season 7 finale of Magnum, PI, "Limbo?" The original idea was to kill Magnum off and the series was over. The last thing you see is Magnum walking away into the clouds as I recall. Half way through filming of that episode they learned that the series was to be renewed.

So in the first episode of season 8, "Infinity and Jelly Doughnuts" they put Magnum was in a coma while all of his friends are trying to get him to wake up he has an out of body experience.

My point is they had pronounced. He's dead. And yet Magnum comes back from the dead.

As far fetched as the scenario was, they did pull a character back from the dead. So it HAS been done. The difference is they pulled it off pretty well. I don't expect anything near that kind of quality from the writers on CSI Miami. Calleigh will live all right. And like MJ said, it will be some kind of cheesy, melodramatic, makes you want to hurl, moment that will sink the show even deeper into the depths of bad soap opera. Daytime TV could teach these writers how to do it better, IMO.

As much as it pains me to say this, I don't put it past the people in charge of CSI Miami to pull whatever lowlife, ridiculous, cheap tricks they deem necessary to keep this storyline running. I have no faith in these people at all. I think they stopped caring about the quality of the show 3.5 years ago.

Unfortunately they've proved multiple times in the past by dropping quality storylines, performing character assassination that rather than improve the show causes it to be even more dismissed as a joke, and by continuing with this insipid teenage sex-romp, that quality is the last consideration for them in a story. :( :(
 
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Oh, I'm sure it's been done on other shows, but I think if they try & sell this to me on 'Miami' I'll have to pass & watch the news instead -- it's just too much for me. There's already too many things wrong with this show & if they can't discontinue this storyline in some way shape or form, then I'm calling it quits. I won't stick around season 9 to watch a ton of characters fight for screentime when I know which actors actually deserve it & won't get it.
 
Oh, I'm sure it's been done on other shows, but I think if they try & sell this to me on 'Miami' I'll have to pass & watch the news instead -- it's just too much for me. There's already too many things wrong with this show & if they can't discontinue this storyline in some way shape or form, then I'm calling it quits. I won't stick around season 9 to watch a ton of characters fight for screentime when I know which actors actually deserve it & won't get it.

No need to watch the news, kiddo! Have you tried Castle, yet? It really is fun and the two leads actually have a real chemistry - unlike some we know. ;)

I'm hanging in for season 8. Can't guarantee season 9 if they don't settle this once and for all. And it will depend on how they settle it.

They've proved that they don't know how to have E/C without making it the center of the show. That is not what I watch a crime drama for.

Every other character on the show is made to suffer so those two characters can hook up for sex every couple of episodes.

I really, really wish that David would move on to another project so I could make a clean break and move on with him. I know he won't, but I'm not sure how long even David can hold me if E/C remains. :( :(
 
Ya know, this season was going pretty well, we were seeing that "back to basics" stuff, & now of course it only becomes insanely stupid when they write drama for e/c (seriously, near death & out of body experiences?). This is exactly why they need to kick this storyline out the window -- they don't know how to keep it simple, they never will, & they don't know how to keep it in the background either.

I loved that we were getting something normal with other storylines: Natalia losing her hearing, Jesse searching for his wife's killer, H & Kyle....these are NORMAL storylines & BELIEVABLE....it's drama all the same, & yes it is needed for any show, but the above storylines don't take us out of CSI:Miami & into a soap opera.

Anyone who can't understand why I dispise this couple....THIS is exactly the reason why!
 
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