Eric/Calleigh romance - why we dislike it. **spoilers**

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Wow I haven't been in here for like ages....! Still don't like e/c though
Season's finale was a nightmare for me at least. It is a bit difficult to keep watching the show and having TPTB throwing e/c scenes all over the place (and I am not talking only about the finale) It's just so damn frustrating!
Anyhow I just hope that this thing they want to call a 'romantic relationship' end in the first couple of episodes of season8! Cause right now end seems to be the only solution, they reached a dead end!
And please oh please let the first episode be only about how Eric became a CSI and not about to show us that from the very beginning they were meant to be...cause I might throw up...:scream:
 
Florry86 said:
Well let's face it. They're both at a dead end. I mean both these characters are ruined and I do think it's almost impossible for both of them to get back to what they used to be.

While there's the possibility of removing Delko's bullet and, probably, things could improve, there's no way he can be the sexy guy he used to be anymore, not even with the great idea of the 1997 flashback, at least to me. To my eyes Eric Delko is dead.
Trust me I'm having a really hard time watching him in every episode without wanting to kill him off with my own hands. And he was one of my fav. characters too.
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You know I love ya, Flo - but I have to respectfully disagree on this one. I think there is still time to save Eric. There is still a potential for a storyline with him because the changes we've seen happened after he was shot. There is a possibility for a believable explanation for his very strange and hard to stomach behavior.

I wouldn't cry if he left, but if they decide to focus and get him back on track he can still be saved.

Florry86 said:
As for Calleigh she's not that far from Delko. She was my absolutely fav. character, but they literally destroyed her.

The perfection, to me, would be both of them to be gone, but it would ruin the show in terms of rating. Let's face if both o them left the show, TPTB and the other actors would have to look for another job.
So if I wanted to pick up one of the two, I'd pick up Eric Delko, as for the character (just b/c I can't stand him anymore!). Though, I'd pick up Calleigh too, so that she could leave this soap opera land, even if her character is already destroyed :rolleyes:
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Again, I respectfully disagree. I think the destruction of Calleigh is so complete that she just can't be salvaged.

Florry86 said:
But, then again, it's just a matter of who your fav. character/actor is so this is subjective :p
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You're absolutely right! ;)
 
Good points, Delynn.
There is such a huge difference in HOW Eric & Calleigh have both been destroyed. Eric has an "excuse", & I hate to use that term but like you said, his behavior, his loss of sex appeal, & his "lap-dog" personality came from his injury, which can reverse when/if the character is able to pull himself out of the slump he's in.
Calleigh on the other hand can't go back. The things that we see she's done wrong is something that tptb don't even acknowledge - they want her to be this way, as scary as that is. There's just nothing for her to overcome whereas with Eric he has something major he needs to overcome & that's the aftermath of his injuries - he can do it if given the opportunity, which is another reason why I think his character is more expandable & has the ability to further develop, unlike Calleigh. Calleigh has no aftermath & nothing to overcome, so IMO, there is no chance of her being the same person she was before, & in all honesty, even if they tried to bring her back, I couldn't see past the person who I see now, which is someone who, sadly, I see as very selfish & hypocritical.

For that matter I do not think Eric will ever be the same Eric Delko from before the shooting either, but under the right circumstances he has the ability to at least be a better man, gain his self-confidence once again, & stop being so dependant on others -- Calleigh, imo, cannot help him with this though -- she only tends to make it worse in my eyes.
 
Delynn said:
Florry86 said:
Well let's face it. They're both at a dead end. I mean both these characters are ruined and I do think it's almost impossible for both of them to get back to what they used to be.

While there's the possibility of removing Delko's bullet and, probably, things could improve, there's no way he can be the sexy guy he used to be anymore, not even with the great idea of the 1997 flashback, at least to me. To my eyes Eric Delko is dead.
Trust me I'm having a really hard time watching him in every episode without wanting to kill him off with my own hands. And he was one of my fav. characters too.
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You know I love ya, Flo - but I have to respectfully disagree on this one
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No worries hon. ;). It's perfectly normal. As we said, it's just a matter of who our fav. character/actor is, nothing else.

And, quite frankly, I'm glad that we (I mean everyone) don't agree with eachother on this topic 'cause otherwise that would be scary :p
 
Florry86 said:
Delynn said:
You know I love ya, Flo - but I have to respectfully disagree on this one
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No worries hon. ;). It's perfectly normal. As we said, it's just a matter of who our fav. character/actor is, nothing else.

And, quite frankly, I'm glad that we (I mean everyone) don't agree with eachother on this topic 'cause otherwise that would be scary :p
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You're absolutely right, Flo. I do so love my discussions with you. ;)

Gotta say that I truly believe that, at this point, both Calleigh and Eric could leave and the show would survive. It would take a hit in the ratings, but I don't think it would be a death blow.

However, I really don't want to see both go. Like I said before I think Eric is salvageable. I truly think it would be a much better show without Calleigh at this point.

I think without all the Calleigh drama, they might have a chance at returning to a good, solid crime and forensic drama. It could be a real chance to get away from all this soap opera stuff.

While I do worry about parsing out the precious little screen time available after Natalia, Ryan, Frank and even Horatio, have all taken a backseat to E/C, I'm really hopeful that this new character (especially since it looks like he and Horatio have a past aquaintance) could be the start of a whole new team.
 
However, I really don't want to see both go. Like I said before I think Eric is salvageable. I truly think it would be a much better show without Calleigh at this point.

I think without all the Calleigh drama, they might have a chance at returning to a good, solid crime and forensic drama. It could be a real chance to get away from all this soap opera stuff.
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I completely agree with you Delynn. The more drama they give to Calliegh and the whole e/c thing the more it takes away from the point and purpose of the show. I truly do hope that they split up sometime during the upcomming season. I honetly think that the show would come up wth better storylines, crime drama, intresting villans (since we haven't had one since Clavo Cruz) ect if tptb got rid of Calliegh and the e/c "relationship".
 
Well, apparently the relationship will be rocky come epi 2, so hopefully this will be the time that tptb bring in other storylines for the other characters & this romance can be put on the shelf. If they use the pattern they always tend to use then it likely will be mentioned a few times, then fade & tptb will simply keep the viewers guessing.
What I find sadly predictable ( & sad I did the research, lol) is that TPTB have had all the Miami relationships come to a hault leaving the viewers to wonder thier fate on the 10th episode following thier official union -- Eric/Natalia, exactly on the 10th episode there was something to dampen the relationship. Calleigh & Jake, again the 10th episode (Stand your Ground)-- season premiere is the 10th episode following E/C's "togetherness".
Pattern is that they take this time to keep viewers playing the guessing game, throwing in bits & pieces but still leaving it unclear, then usually a new storyline rolls in & it's thrown out the window. We'll see how tptb play this out.

All I know is that there are plenty of good storylines out there that could be played out, & we should not have to sit through more of e/c's garbage just because some fans want it. I don't particularly care how long anyone has waited for them to become lovers, or how long it took them to play "will they won't they" -- fact is they played that already, they got together already, & now there are issues, so imo, it's time to let it go -- the fans got thier giggle for a good 2 1/2 seasons -- it's past due for the other characters to sit front & center & not have to be manipulated into playing off this dreadful couple as if they are the only existance on this show.
 
Delynn said:
You're absolutely right, Flo. I do so love my discussions with you. ;)
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Oh I so love them too ;)

Delynn said:
I think without all the Calleigh drama, they might have a chance at returning to a good, solid crime and forensic drama. It could be a real chance to get away from all this soap opera stuff.
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Totally agree with you on this ;)

mjszud said:
Well, apparently the relationship will be rocky come epi 2, so hopefully this will be the time that tptb bring in other storylines for the other characters & this romance can be put on the shelf. If they use the pattern they always tend to use then it likely will be mentioned a few times, then fade & tptb will simply keep the viewers guessing.
What I find sadly predictable ( & sad I did the research, lol) is that TPTB have had all the Miami relationships come to a hault leaving the viewers to wonder thier fate on the 10th episode following thier official union -- Eric/Natalia, exactly on the 10th episode there was something to dampen the relationship. Calleigh & Jake, again the 10th episode (Stand your Ground)-- season premiere is the 10th episode following E/C's "togetherness".
Pattern is that they take this time to keep viewers playing the guessing game, throwing in bits & pieces but still leaving it unclear, then usually a new storyline rolls in & it's thrown out the window. We'll see how tptb play this out.
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Well as much as it sounds sad, I'd love TPTB to follow theire usual pattern even for this highly spoken couple. At least there won't be more drama concerning these two 'cause I'm really done with it :rolleyes:.
 
You can beat me, but i didn't read all what you wrote there *blush*. Sorry if i'm don't write something new :)

About EC leaving. I'm thinking show is survive, it's all depends of tptb. If they write good plot, bring new interesting characters and etc. I'd would love to believe that Eric and Calleigh can back to normal. That after romance (or while they together) they can come back to individuals. Because now i see a two-headed CSI without sex, cuz sometimes i don't know who more girly Eric or Calleigh, and sometimes see that Calleigh is the man, so i don't know what sex it is. Sorry EC fans for this ;)

Florry86 said:
Jus for example how many people, who never watched the show, decided they had to watch it since Jonathan Togo joined it?
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Me! I thinking Miami was boring and i didn't watch it, but because of Jon i start watching and find other good things in the show. But now all it gone and i'm watching only bacause of Jon.
 
I stop watching last season when i found out that they were gonna put Eric and Calleigh together. I stop liking Eric since he got shot because he became someone different and i dont like that person. Also the whole E/C shipping is taking Ryan's and Natalia's screentime. it just really bugs me that Calleigh suddenly has feeling for Eric, i mean they have worked together for like what 5 years, without feeling anything and now they are maddly in love? i just dont get it.
 
veggie said:
I stop watching last season when i found out that they were gonna put Eric and Calleigh together. I stop liking Eric since he got shot because he became someone different and i dont like that person. Also the whole E/C shipping is taking Ryan's and Natalia's screentime. it just really bugs me that Calleigh suddenly has feeling for Eric, i mean they have worked together for like what 5 years, without feeling anything and now they are maddly in love? i just dont get it.
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:lol: I see I'm not the only one who didn't see this romance building from the beginning as TPTB keep telling us it did.

I think the way they are re-writing history to make the season 8 premier work tells us how much they care about the importance of what has come before and staying true to the characters. They don't care!

I mourn the loss of Calleigh. I truly loved that character. I still think we can save Eric. He's got a reason for his completely out of character behavior. The bullet in his head.

Unfortunately, Calleigh has no excuse. :(
 
Orla_Dark said:
Hey, maybe they(doctors) take bullet from his head and all this gone with it? Sweet dreams :rolleyes:
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I doubt it! Thought it would be nice. Ok here is my optomistic POV about everything in genereal: I can't see tptb dragging on e/c forever. As MJ pointed out earlier every 10 episode a something happens to dampen a relationship. In this case since the premire will be the 10th e/c episode and with what is comming out about 8.02 spoilers that tptb will start to wrap up this deadful storyline. It serves no purpose in this show and has taken it over. I honestly think that if the writers had spent more time writting storylines for other characters and exploring where they could go with characters like Horatio, Ryan, Natalia, Frank and even Valera to a degree that e/c would NOT have gotten together this season and possibly not at all, which in all honesty would have been a very excellent thing.
 
I agree with you, Mrs.DelkoWolfe. It seems like very few other characters got any real storylines. If Miami continues on this course, it will end up being a career-killer for the other actors. I sometimes wonder whether this was the real reason Khandi Alexander left. Did she see the proverbial writing on the wall?
I work with other folks who aren't as much into Miami as I am, and even they agree, it's turning into the "Eric Loves Calleigh" show. :angryrazz:
 
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