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I know the writers want us to believe that she is in her mid 30s (HA HA), but it's not a matter of Stella being older than Adam, is just a matter of Stella being the polar opposite of Adam.
Yep. Adam's a nice, caring guy, a little quirky sometimes, but with a good sense of humor and someone it might be fun to pal around with occasionally. But he's also socially awkward, non-assertive, somewhat immature, and wardrobe-challenged -- the exact opposite of Stella -- so I can't even imagine that she would be romantically/sexually attracted to him. As you indicated, she seems to be drawn to (and more comfortable with) the alpha male types like Mac and Flack.


- Danny/Lindsay: Ok they are together, well, they had sex, so they probably are. Oh my, Danny cheated on her. Ok, wait, they weren't together, were they? So, they probably weren't, even though Lindsay acts as if they were. Well, Danny begs and Lindsay caves in, so they are together again. Really? When was the last time we saw them together, together? Ok, this is crazy, they probably aren't. Oh sh*t, Lindsay is preggers, how did that happen if they weren't together, together? Sooo they were together, but not so really together, does that make sense? Ok, their relationship is in shaky grounds now to say the least, so marriage is not an option. Oh, look, they just got married. Ok, so happily ever after. Let the audience fill in the blanks to explain everything that didn't make sense.
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Adam and Stella would never end up together, realistically speaking and in terms of what we've seen so far about the characters, so why pair them, to have them break up later?
Well, we know it's all about the drama and I guess for ratings sake, they want to make it "sexy" too. But I have a sneaking suspicion that in this case, it will be all about Mac as well....


Like others have said, if they are going to pair Stella with somebody from the team, Flack would make a lot more sense, story-wise. Heck, I'd rather see Sid/Stella. :p
If they had to go this route (Stella with a subordinate) I actually think Hawkes/Stella would've made the most sense and been more believable.


Also, I profoundly dislike Mac/Stella pairing, but I'd rather see them together than Adam/Stella. Ok, scratch that. They don't have romantic chemistry and a relationship would probably ruin the show. While chemistry is a matter of personal interpretation, Mac/Stella in terms of storyline is a disaster no matter what. I'd rather sit through Danny and Lindsay pretending that they love each other for ten more seasons than see Mac and Stella together.
:lol: I don't mind the idea of Mac/Stella, but your description of how the franchise handles romances is one of the best arguments ever of why Mac and Stella shouldn't be together until towards the end, if ever.


Elwood21, thanks for that summary....
Hmm...so it's a one-night stand? Maybe they are waiting to see how the audience reacts before deciding whether to pursue it or "never speak of it again."
 
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- Danny/Lindsay: Ok they are together, well, they had sex, so they probably are. Oh my, Danny cheated on her. Ok, wait, they weren't together, were they? So, they probably weren't, even though Lindsay acts as if they were. Well, Danny begs and Lindsay caves in, so they are together again. Really? When was the last time we saw them together, together? Ok, this is crazy, they probably aren't. Oh sh*t, Lindsay is preggers, how did that happen if they weren't together, together? Sooo they were together, but not so really together, does that make sense? Ok, their relationship is in shaky grounds now to say the least, so marriage is not an option. Oh, look, they just got married. Ok, so happily ever after. Let the audience fill in the blanks to explain everything that didn't make sense.
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:guffaw:

....I just -


:lol::lol::lol:

Loved. This. Immense thanks. Immense.

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I could be intrigued if I trusted the writers but the CSI franchise doesn't know how to deal with romance in a healthy, realistic way: no matter what couple, it always ends up in an angstfest and I'm tired of it. It's like the fics where the story drags on and on forever so the reviews keep coming. There's always a new angsty twist in every chapter and even though everybody knows the characters will eventually have their happy ending, they'll have to face a myriad of problems until the end. That's just bad writing, both in fanfiction and in "real" fiction.

Yes, love in real life is not always rainbows and kittens. It's difficult and sometimes doesn't end well. But happy romance exists. It really does, with its ups and downs. It's frustrating to see how every romance in the franchise turns into bad drama. I know the audience wouldn't be as invested if there wasn't a little bit of trouble in paradise every now an then, but these writers just don't know where to stop -- just like many fanfiction writers, they just go on and on with the drama to inflate the story. That's just a cheap ratings ploy. They should know when enough is enough. I'm sure they know that there's a fine line between good drama and soap opera and the more balanced the drama is, the better, but instead they choose to overstep the line again and again.

Just a few examples:
- Grissom/Sara: Good, they are together. Wait, Grissom is leaving on a sabbatical and Sara isn't the least thrilled. Oh, but Grissom is telling her how much he loves her, in the form of a poem, in a freaking letter. Ok, well, they seem to be in good terms after Grissom returns. Oh, no, Grissom is at Lady Heather's again and Sara isn't happy about it. Ok, everything is fine now, they are getting married. Wait, Sara is leaving her job and gives Grissom a f*cking "Dear John" letter and he doesn't seem to have a clue. Grissom is sad, Sara is nowhere to be seen, is that the end of their love? Just wait a second, Sara returns and they seem happy again, they even talk about their future plans. Oh no, did Grissom say that? Ok, he did, and Sara is not happy, she is leaving again, without a word. Grissom is emo again, Sara dumps him via video message and he goes to Lady Heather. Ok, that's really the end. No wait, Grissom is leaving the lab and goes to find Sara. Happily ever after. Just fill in the blanks that didn't make sense.

- Danny/Lindsay: Ok they are together, well, they had sex, so they probably are. Oh my, Danny cheated on her. Ok, wait, they weren't together, were they? So, they probably weren't, even though Lindsay acts as if they were. Well, Danny begs and Lindsay caves in, so they are together again. Really? When was the last time we saw them together, together? Ok, this is crazy, they probably aren't. Oh sh*t, Lindsay is preggers, how did that happen if they weren't together, together? Sooo they were together, but not so really together, does that make sense? Ok, their relationship is in shaky grounds now to say the least, so marriage is not an option. Oh, look, they just got married. Ok, so happily ever after. Let the audience fill in the blanks to explain everything that didn't make sense.

- Eric/Calleigh: Eric loves Calleigh. How cute. They make a great pair, they have nice chemistry and a good friendship, they communicate well and seem drama-free, that could be a pair that the audience will accept. Good, Calleigh knows about Eric's feelings and she's not a quiet person, so they'll probably be having hot sex in a couple of episodes. Uh-uh, why is taking them that long to do something? Ok, why can't they say it already instead of talking in circles? What are they, fifteen all of a sudden? And now Calleigh is flirting with everyone with a pulse and Eric is jealous. Really? Is this high school or what? Ok, this is getting ridiculous, Eric confesses his love to an unconscious Calleigh, so what now? Ok, so they are really an item, finally! Oh, no, Eric is not who Calleigh thinks he is, is he? Oh the dramz! This doesn't have a happily ever after, still, but I'm betting it'll eventually have this type of ending. Again, we can play the game of filling in the blanks to understand what happened in between.

That's just bad, lazy writing.

Besides, women in CSI have the greatest taste in men: psychopaths and/or abusers (Stella, Natalia, Yelina), cheaters (Catherine, Sara), liars or at least shady (Yelina, Calleigh), wackos (Calleigh).

See why I'm not curious at all?

You illustrate your point very, very well. :lol: :D To be fair, Eric and Calleigh's romantic progression is so typical of TV couples in general, where they're artificially kept apart for no good reason other than the fact that getting them together too early on or too easily wouldn't make for good drama.

In light of the Regis & Kelly show clip spoiler--which, since it aired on national TV doesn't need to be discussed behind a spoiler box, but thank you for the extra caution! :) --I'm not sure how I feel about Adam and Stella as a one night stand. But when is a one night stand ever just a one night stand in television? It feels a little like the Buffy and Spike pairing in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, without the hostility, obviously. :) An unlikely duo that doesn't seem to stand a chance--which is maybe why I'm intrigued. Danny and Lindsay were so predictable and banal at every turn, and, while I know many of you love the idea of Mac and Stella together, those two feel predictable, too. As does every other couple you mentioned above. So maybe that's why the prospect of Adam and Stella intrigues me. It's different, it's unexpected.

Adam and Stella would never end up together, realistically speaking and in terms of what we've seen so far about the characters, so why pair them, to have them break up later?

Are we so sure about that? I mean, unlikely couples can end up together. Look at Joey and Pacey on Dawson's Creek. It was called Dawson's Creek and it was all but certain that Joey would end up with Dawson--until the writers paired Joey and Pacey and the couple became the best thing about the show. Sometimes going off in an unexpected direction really pays off. Sometimes--like say, in the example of Rachel and Joey on Friends--it really doesn't (and it was cool and smart that the show played it as a mismatch once they got together and didn't sizzle).

Also, I profoundly dislike Mac/Stella pairing, but I'd rather see them together than Adam/Stella. Ok, scratch that. They don't have romantic chemistry and a relationship would probably ruin the show. While chemistry is a matter of personal interpretation, Mac/Stella in terms of storyline is a disaster no matter what. I'd rather sit through Danny and Lindsay pretending that they love each other for ten more seasons than see Mac and Stella together.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! As much as I dislike Danny and Lindsay, they're supporting characters and their silly and unrealistic romance doesn't ruin the show. Mac and Stella together would just put me to sleep... and boredom will kill a show.


Yes, of course Danny is at fault for all the things that had gone wrong with this relationship, just like Lindsay is, but at least he admits it when he knows he has done something wrong. How many times has Lindsay apologize to Danny? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll say never.

I think that's what bugs me--that he's always in the wrong, or at least he is in her eyes. I hate characters who don't take responsibility for their actions--honestly, for people in real life, that's one of my pet peeves, too. If if it takes two to tango, why is it always Danny groveling/apologizing?

And Maya and Top, I hate you both :lol:
Could you please stop writing for a second? I've been wanting to reply to your posts for days and when I finally got the time to do it, you've written ten more posts! I've forgotten half of what I wanted to say.

I can't with you two :lol:

LOL, :D Sorry!! :eek: :D
 
I find myself both recuperating from a vague nauseousness and relieved and cheered in thinking that it could already be over and as far as it could be going. :p But we'll find out soon enough I suppose.

i think i'm feeling about the same!

I bet TPTB are delighted with the timing of everything, the CBS promo, the Ohio article, spoilers and interviews and articles, and indulging in mutual congratulations for lighting up chat boards with regards to the whole thing, lighting up interwebbage leading to the week of premiers. Well played. You goddamn, mo'f*cking, cheeky, cheeky f*cking sonsabitches. Bastards.

well it certainly looks like they're getting their money's worth in pr terms, whichever agency they use will no doubt be looking forward to a hefty bonus!
 
It'll be interesting to see if the leaking of all of these shockers in the premiere will translate into awesome ratings. Miami did pretty well--down from last year but still won the time period. NCIS and its spin-off did crazy good numbers. I wonder how NY's numbers will be!
 
Originally Posted by Curiosity:
The part that makies me sad is the stuff about doing what comes to mind for her best interests -- makes it sound like she might be thinking mainly about what she wants and not worrying about the consequences to others. Doesn't sound like the Stella we know, and that's the thing that could make her an unlikeable and unsympathetic character, especially if someone like Adam ends up as collateral damage

That's another possibility that squicks me about the Adam/Stella storyline, that it might actually veer in the direction of Stella knowingly using Adam. Not completely consciously using him in the sense that she'd view him as a tool in her plan to live in the moment (honestly, I doubt it would even be possible to make Stella's character go that far of the mark. Melina wouldn't stand for it). But in the sense of knowing that a fling with Adam would make her feel more alive.

The Hawkes storyline seems like it could be a good one. I can see that it would be hard for someone like Sheldon, who others see as very intelligent and balanced, to admit that he has lost everything because of falling victim to a scam. I'm actually looking forward to this arc.

Huh...lol, I didn't even realize from the interview that he'd lost his money through a scam. I juswt figured he'd put it all into some kind of stock which plummeted or something. But that makes things interesting...I wonder, since it's a scam, could he technically get his money back? Since he's the police, the scam would probably qualify as a crime...

Originally Posted by symbeline:
That was a poor choice of words and I don't have the excuse that I didn't know how to translate it, because that expression means the same in my language.
What I meant to say --and it fits with the Adam/Stella theme-- is that Stella seems to be more comfortable around men than women, specially strong-willed man, like Flack or Mac. That's why I have some trouble believing that she could be Lindsay's best friend or be attracted to Adam, that's just not who Stella is

I guess I could see this; it's really interesting 'cause I never thought about it that way before. But yeah, Stella really does seem to be on a more equal footing with Mac and Flack (and Hawkes to some extent); and therefore more comfortable with them. Whereas with Adam it's more about being protective and boosting him up, and with Lindsay it's not so much equal footing either, what with calling her "Kiddo" and indulging the experiments - if she treats Adam like a little brother, she treats Lindsay like a little sister. So I could see how they might not reach that level of best-friends (or with Adam, why it might not be believable that she'd be attracted to him), although I don't think that discounts the fact that they could ever be close. You could still be tight with your little sister. But there's just some things you wouldn't tell her that you'd tell a best friend your own age, because she's your younger sister; you might feel she won't understand. Or in the case of Adam (leaving off the "brother" thing because I'm discussing the possible relationship), you could think this younger guy is an amazing guy that anyone would want - just you can't see him like that because he's not as mature as someone your own age/older than you would be.

[For the record, Adam's very mature, but I have to admit I too am a little skeptical that Stella would be attracted to him. It's so cute of him, but the guy's still into video games and street hockey and phrases like "Whaddup" :lol:. I just don't see Stella finding that attractive.]

- Danny/Lindsay: Ok they are together, well, they had sex, so they probably are. Oh my, Danny cheated on her. Ok, wait, they weren't together, were they? So, they probably weren't, even though Lindsay acts as if they were. Well, Danny begs and Lindsay caves in, so they are together again. Really? When was the last time we saw them together, together? Ok, this is crazy, they probably aren't. Oh sh*t, Lindsay is preggers, how did that happen if they weren't together, together? Sooo they were together, but not so really together, does that make sense? Ok, their relationship is in shaky grounds now to say the least, so marriage is not an option. Oh, look, they just got married. Ok, so happily ever after. Let the audience fill in the blanks to explain everything that didn't make sense.
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I would seriously marry you like, right now, for this alone. :lol: And I totally agree about the other romances in the CSI shows. It's not realistic drama at all, it's "As the Lab Turns" with a few dead bodies and murderers thrown in here and there.

Besides, women in CSI have the greatest taste in men: psychopaths and/or abusers (Stella, Natalia, Yelina), cheaters (Catherine, Sara), liars or at least shady (Yelina, Calleigh), wackos (Calleigh).

This is actually something I have to say bothers me quite a bit about these shows. To be fair, I know the CSI men don't always have much better taste (Eric had one stalker and one thief; Nick's into the shady hookers; I don't know what was wrong with Warrick's Tina, but they certainly divorced really quickly). But we see them go through normal relationships with normal women, and break up under normal circumstances, far more often than we've seen the same for the women, and it's a portrayal that bugs me. It's that impossible for one of them to pick up a guy outside the lab who's not a creeper?

Yes, of course Danny is at fault for all the things that had gone wrong with this relationship, just like Lindsay is, but at least he admits it when he knows he has done something wrong. How many times has Lindsay apologize to Danny? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll say never.

That's true, and if Lindsay knows she does something wrong and doesn't apologize again, it's still not going to be okay. But I think the reason her fans took Lindsay's side in Season 4 wasn't just because they were blindly devoted and trying to excuse her every bad act. It was because there was a side to take, as there usually is in a fight like that where both parties are in the wrong (or, if the show decides to be original this time, where both parties are justified). All things considered, I'd rather not see RND part 2 this year, but if it happens again I have no reason to assume it won't go down the same way.

That's what I hope will change this season. I don't want to see Lindsay and Danny arguing all the time and Lindsay leaving him or some type of cheap drama. I hope they both have matured enough to avoid rehearsing season 4. But what I really want to see is the whole team struggling to come to terms to what happened after Angell's death, not just D/L drama, Flack rebounding with the first woman he crosses paths with, or Stella using Adam/Mac to feel better about the situation. It seems that this season is about the team falling apart, and I want to see how this changes their lives, not their romantic lives.

That's fair enough, and while I actually am expecting/hoping to see D and L split in Season 6, if they were shown maturely and considerately working through their problems together, I might enjoy seeing that more. Good point out about the team sounding like they'll be falling apart this year - the producers promised we'd get more focus on character this season. But if it's going to come at the cost of their dynamic collapsing underneath all the drama, I think I'd prefer they stick to the crime aspect.

And Maya and Top, I hate you both :lol:
Could you please stop writing for a second? I've been wanting to reply to your posts for days and when I finally got the time to do it, you've written ten more posts! I've forgotten half of what I wanted to say.

*facepalm* I knew I was hijacking the thread again :lol: Sorry; please respond! ;)

Originally Posted by Curiosity:
Well, we know it's all about the drama and I guess for ratings sake, they want to make it "sexy" too. But I have a sneaking suspicion that in this case, it will be all about Mac as well....

It's actually mind-boggling how many promos I've seen for TV shows in the last month with one of the characters in some state of undress, so yeah, I agree "sexiness for ratings" is probably a huge part of this new storyline. Although...I don't know, I'm kind of thinking Adam/Stella will become even more of a trainwreck if Mac gets involved on top of everything else...
 
Melina is appaer in a broadcast on CBS. And there was an extract of the first épisode (6.01 epilogue). It was her and Adam speaking about their last night, and both agreeing on the fact that it was good, but that that will not have to reproduce.
 
Melina is appaer in a broadcast on CBS. And there was an extract of the first épisode (6.01 epilogue). It was her and Adam speaking about their last night, and both agreeing on the fact that it was good, but that that will not have to reproduce.

Please tell me that's not true :eek:
 
An if you want to see it here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1mcvhQIG8Y

Melina is appaer in a broadcast on CBS. And there was an extract of the first épisode (6.01 epilogue). It was her and Adam speaking about their last night, and both agreeing on the fact that it was good, but that that will not have to reproduce.

Please tell me that's not true :eek:

Sorry, it's true

Thanks Messers_fan and pelnoir

I shouldn't have read spoilers or watched the promos. This is a big mistake, I'm extremely disappointed.

I hope this turns out to be less damaging for the show than I expect :(
 
:eek::eek:Okay, wow.

Lol, actually - I liked that little clip. I can't really say much more until I know how that "one-night fling" is going to affect their overall relationship, but it's not that bad if it was just one night (rather than a drawn-out hookup)...

[Slightly OT, but I'm probably also a little biased 'cause that's the first time I've actually watched Melina do an interview before; she's so cool :lol:]
 
:eek::eek:Okay, wow.

Lol, actually - I liked that little clip. I can't really say much more until I know how that "one-night fling" is going to affect their overall relationship, but it's not that bad if it was just one night (rather than a drawn-out hookup)...

I liked the clip too. Even though I don't want another couple between the main cast on the show, after seeing that I wouldn't mind them hooking up again. But I agree that it shouldn't screw up their work relationship or friendship. The huge smile on Adam's face is just :lol:. He's totally like, "Yeah. I just totally bagged Stella." :lol:
 
OK, that was kind of cute. :D It's just kind of unexpected and I guess I like that about it. It'll be interesting to see if they have that kind of chemistry...
 
Originally Posted by Curiosity:
The part that makies me sad is the stuff about doing what comes to mind for her best interests -- makes it sound like she might be thinking mainly about what she wants and not worrying about the consequences to others. Doesn't sound like the Stella we know, and that's the thing that could make her an unlikeable and unsympathetic character, especially if someone like Adam ends up as collateral damage

That's another possibility that squicks me about the Adam/Stella storyline, that it might actually veer in the direction of Stella knowingly using Adam. Not completely consciously using him in the sense that she'd view him as a tool in her plan to live in the moment (honestly, I doubt it would even be possible to make Stella's character go that far of the mark. Melina wouldn't stand for it). But in the sense of knowing that a fling with Adam would make her feel more alive.
I definitely think Stella has far more at stake in the midst of something like this, but I also gotta say, am I the only one who doesn't default to viewing Adam as a victim in all this? :lol: Geez. Crushing on her's one thing, but he never came off as blindly head over heels to the point where no possible outcome could be good for his having developed feelings for her. Perhaps they did somehow unexpectedly find some true solace in one another. I'm not in the least keen on this story development, and think it could be another example of Stella getting the short end of the stick by the show, but we'll see, and I'm not gonna vilify either of the characters for participating in it.

In light of what I saw this morning, I'm now hoping for better than worse in how it could be handled, even if it's something I still wish hadn't required handling at all.

I wonder, since it's a scam, could he technically get his money back? Since he's the police, the scam would probably qualify as a crime..
:lol: ...if the circumstances of the losses are criminal, then it's criminal. Perpetrated on him as anyone else, no different cos he's NYPD. I don't think it could be additionally charged as financial assault on an officer of the law... :lol::p

An if you want to see it here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1mcvhQIG8Y
Yes, that's a cut of what I saw this morning. Thanks for posting a link. (and yet, how the earlier CBS promo clips are worked in remains to be seen... :p)

I just didn't want to see either of them, but primarily Stella, damaged in a potential gimmick move. I am definitely relieved if that's essentially what it's gonna be and already largely done with. (Damn you TPTB, damn you and your pot and your stirring :lol:)

Perfectanomoly:
The huge smile on Adam's face is just :lol:. He's totally like, "Yeah. I just totally bagged Stella." :lol:
Completely! :lol:


And yeah, Melina seems very cool :p:)
 
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