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Okay, I understand that, it just gets a little frustrating when you don't share that opinion yet it seems that all D/L fans are tarred with the same brush.
I don't know. I guess I just find it hard to believe that Lindsay did nothing to reach out to him. I know a lot of people here think she just expected him to know that she was there. I actually wonder if there's some truth in that. When Lindsay was struggling with her issues Danny was instinctively there for her. That's how their relationship was set up, Danny worked off his instincts. I often find in life that the way a relationship is set up is how it continues to play out. Maybe Lindsay assumed he would instinctively know she was there, because he's always 'known' how she operates before. But again, I don't see her behaviour as selfish, I see it as f*%^d up but not manipulative in the way that other's seem to.
We don't know the status of their relationship. It obviously wasn't the serious, committed relationship that some fans thought it was but I seriously doubt it was the nothing that other's thought it was. We just don't know. I think she expected him to know she was there because she just expects him to know her. I guess the bottom line for me is that I don't think tptb ever intended her to be unreasonably selfish. I think they intended to show them as both being f*&^d up and at that point in time at least, not a good match for each other. Until they show it differently I shall continue to just be intrigued by how they both ended up here.
So, if anyone who feels that way about Danny wants to explain this double standard, I'm very interested in knowing why it's okay for Lindsay to treat Danny badly because she's screwed up while Danny can't do the same even though he's screwed up too.
Just realised while browsing something that this season NY will reach there 100th episodes.... could that mean a big episode to celebrate?
Heheh, I'll just say this: After years of being on this board and being part of the CSI:NY fandom, it is very sad to me that I can count on one hand the number of active DL shippers who don't think Danny's a cheating monster who deserves to be hurt in the worst ways and crawl back to Lindsay. And before anyone asks, yes, that includes other boards, websites, etc. Honestly, it would be nice to hear more from such shippers because the vitriol so far is really overwhelming opinions different from the majority. Think about Ausiello implying twice in a row that DL shippers have 'threatened him with bodily harm' and are going to 'chase him with pitchforks' after the Pam Veasey spoilers. Jokes or not, they do say something, and not in a positive way either.JellyBelly said:
Okay, I understand that, it just gets a little frustrating when you don't share that opinion yet it seems that all D/L fans are tarred with the same brush.
If that's the only explanation they have so far ... that implies Lindsay just assumed them having sex meant they were in a relationship and that Danny should 'know what to do' since she assumed they were in a relationship. :wtf: And that ... does not look good for Lindsay. :lol:Top41 said:
I have to admit to being curious about this, too. The only explanation I've seen is that they were at an earlier stage--basically, before they'd slept together--when Lindsay shut Danny out. But I do find it bizarre that it's okay to some that she shut him out, but that the reverse isn't.
While I do agree that there are some double standards where Lindsay fans are concerned, one look at this board and it is obvious that the double standard runs both ways. It seems to a lot of people that when Lindsay pushed Danny away it was because she was selfish and heartless and when Danny pushed Lindsay away, it's also because Lindsay is selfish and heartless.
Now, going on Lindsay’s girlfriend comment from RND, let’s assume she was his girlfriend after Snow Day. Danny’s girlfriend made zero effort that we saw to be there for him. There was to be a scene in AitF where Lindsay was going to try and force Danny to talk to her about what was going on and yet TPTB decided to cut that scene. Perhaps we would all feel different about Lindsay’s behaviour had that scene been left in but TPTB made a choice not to include it. Why they did it we may never know but it was a choice they made. According to canon, Lindsay made no effort to even try to support Danny during Ruben’s death but we saw Danny make an effort to support Lindsay in LRC and SOOH, going so far as to fly across the country. Yes, she did alert Flack to Danny's absence and cover for him with Mac in AitF but I don't see that the same because it didn't cost Lindsay anything to do those things. There was no sacrifice and no risk of her feelings getting hurt with that.
She made a half hearted attempt to talk to him in the morgue but when he pushed away she didn’t push back. When Lindsay was pushing Danny away, he pushed back. For all he knew, Lindsay was going to go off on him when he showed up in Montana but he didn’t care. He didn’t worry about getting his feelings hurt because he wanted to be there for her. Lindsay didn’t talk to Danny because she was worried about screwing up because she’s “not good at these things.” She never pushed Danny to talk about his grief or pain until it started to screw with her life, namely her birthday and being blown off for a lunch date. To me, Lindsay has done nothing in two years to return the kindness that Danny had shown her during season 3 and I think that makes her selfish.
The Black Hole of Continuity disavows any knowledge of this "Louie" person you speak of.
You make some good points but I stand by my original point. I never said what either Lindsay or Danny did was acceptable but I am trying to see both points of view. Most people do think that either Lindsay is a selfish brat or that Danny is a cheating idiot but I prefer not to. Lindsay did stand Danny up for a date and ignore him, and maybe she should have pushed harder when he wouldn't talk but equally Danny did ignore her too AND sleep with someone else.
I don't remember Lindsay's birthday episode too well but I can't remember her being all that angry, in fact wasn't she teasing him about it? Also, in a couple of episodes she was either trying to talk to him on the phone or get him to meet up but he either ignored her or lied to her about what he was doing. She was worried about him and maybe she's not good at expressing it but she and Flack both put their asses on the line for him when he was trying to get his gun back, not the act of a selfish person. And I don't accept your premise that there was no risk involved, she lied to her boss and for the most part covered up her investigation of his whereabouts. She could have lost her job.
I don't think either one of them is better or worse I just wish the writers would give themselves a good slap. Either it was their intention to have Lindsay and Danny as a couple and their writing wasn't up to it, or they wanted to create this outrage (whichever side of it you are on) to make sure the viewers keep watching. Either way I hope they don't try another romance storyline in the future, I think both characters are far more interesting without the melodrama!
The Black Hole of Continuity disavows any knowledge of this "Louie" person you speak of.