CSI:NY Season 5 Spoilers Discussion - Start Spreadin' The News!

[Kimmychu]

Wow.

Wow, wow, WOW.

Something tells me TPTB is going to put Danny and Rikki in a relationship and pair Lindsay up with another man! 'Still be part of that relationship' hints to me that she may end up being cool with Danny's and Rikki's relationship, even. Wow, a possibly mature Lindsay coming up in season five?! I am already impressed. It seems TPTB really is separating Lindsay and Danny. Can it possibly be that Danny's Days of Propping are over?!

If this is true, then ... IS IT SEPTEMBER YET?! :lol:

 

[tinieyhasbi]

Wow..lindsay comes to the rescue..that i cant wait...even though i like danny and lindsay be together..she'll have eyes on someone else..that is cool..god i cant wait for september...

 

[Top41]

Someone (sorry I don't remember who did it) mentioned new title episodes on wikipedia

Here they are: (not confirmed of course. Don't kill the messenger )

Riding The Bullet - October 22, 2008 97 (5.05)
Boogeyman - October 29, 2008 98 (5.06)
Two For The Money - November 5, 2008 99 (5.07)
Kill Shot 100 - November 19, 2008 100 (5.08)
Execution - November 26, 2008 101 (5.09)


Debbie

Hmmmm, I'd take all that with a grain of salt. I think the writers just got back to work on Monday. Unless they had a big jump start on scripts from when they did 501-504, I'd be skeptical. But, we'll see!

Thanks for the Ausiello news, vegaslights!

Hmm. Basically -- WTF?

From Ausiello:

Any idea what Season 5 of CSI: NY will bring for Danny/Lindsay fans? — Amy
Ausiello: Rikki's returning, so you tell me. Actually, I'll let NY EP Pam Veasey tell us all. "It's going to be a little rocky for them this season," she reveals. "A lot of things are going to happen with Danny that don't involve Lindsay,

FINALLY. The more separation between the two, the better. One of the things I loved about the Ruben storyline was that it in no way involved Lindsay--until she got pissy with Danny for not grieving like she wanted him to. Anyway, nice to see TPTB recognizing that these two don't always have to have intertwined storylines.

but she's going to come to the rescue

Well, Danny is the show's damsel-in-distress. :lol: It's hard to begrudge Lindsay the chance to come to his rescue. She has before (RSRD, and a little in All in the Family). Just like everyone else on the show. :lol:

and still be a part of that relationship."

Maybe they're just going to be friends?

Hmm… perhaps those pregnancy rumors are true?

Oooh, Ausiello has heard pregnancy rumors.

Veasey's not saying, but this much she does divulge: Danny won't be the only man in Lindsay's life. "She'll have eyes for someone else," she teases of the yet-to-be-cast role. "He'll recur for several episodes and, of course, he'll be very attractive."

Two attractive men in NYC who dig Lindsay? The guys in NY need to take off the beer goggles. :lol: I kid, I kid. But it's funny that Lindsay has two love interests and Hawkes has none. That's just not right in any sense of the word.

Yikes, it's a throng of D/L fans! They're coming at me — and they're carrying pitchforks! Gotta run! See ya next week!

I *heart* Ausiello. :lol:

Wow.

Wow, wow, WOW.

Something tells me TPTB is going to put Danny and Rikki in a relationship and pair Lindsay up with another man! 'Still be part of that relationship' hints to me that she may end up being cool with Danny's and Rikki's relationship, even. Wow, a possibly mature Lindsay coming up in season five?! I am already impressed. It seems TPTB really is separating Lindsay and Danny. Can it possibly be that Danny's Days of Propping are over?!

Let's hope so. All this sounds very promising for both characters.

 

[Faylinn]

But it's funny that Lindsay has two love interests and Hawkes has none. That's just not right in any sense of the word.

But didn't you know? He and Adam are sneaking off to make out in the supply closet. :devil:



Interesting spoilers - I have to say Veasey specifying that Danny will have a lot going on that doesn't involve Lindsay was the most comforting part of that whole thing. :lol:

 

[Kimmychu]

Faylinn said:
But didn't you know? He and Adam are sneaking off to make out in the supply closet. :devil:

:lol: TPTB adds that in season five, the ratings are guaranteed to shoot up!

Top41 said:
Maybe they're just going to be friends?

PV specifying that a lot of things happening to Danny don't involve Lindsay is a major clue. It actually sounds like whatever will happen to Danny won't even be related to DL or DR, and that Lindsay will be helping to resolve the situation in some way. If it's related to Tanglewood, I'll be impressed, man. Will the continuity fairy visit again?!

The 'still part of that relationship' bit is also a major clue as well as Lindsay having eyes for a new man. I'm speculating Lindsay will eventually find out about Danny and Rikki being together but won't blow up over it. She did tell Danny to his face she wants to 'get over it' and to Mac that it was 'so stupid of her to ever get involved with Danny' ... so if Danny moves on with Rikki and Lindsay moves on with this new man, it's a win-win situation for both of them. No more propping! No more juvenile drama! And relationships with recurring characters who don't have to appear in every episode so those who aren't keen on romance on the show won't have to watch it every week!

Oooh, Ausiello has heard pregnancy rumors.

So that makes two sources who've hinted at Rikki being pregnant now, Matt Mitovich and Ausiello.

 

[Faylinn]

:lol: TPTB adds that in season five, the ratings are guaranteed to shoot up!

My panties would be all a-tingle.

 

[dutch_treat]

Kimmychu said:
that makes two sources who've hinted at Rikki being pregnant now, Matt Mitovich and Ausiello

Well, that was/is the worst case scenario for a lot of people, so I can just imagine that both have had a lot of questions about that...imo this is one rumor that has totally been started by the fandom itself and started to live a life of its one.

 

[kinkapoodles]

Rikki pregnant or not doesn't matter to me. I'm just glad she's coming back and it's looking more and more like the DL mess will finally be over. Looks like Carmine was spot on in his interview in June 2007 with CSI files. Apparently he wasn't lying or trying to mess with the fans after all.

It also seems telling to me that Ausiello didn't jump right in there and give DL fans any good news at all, like he'd done so many times in the past. That also gives me hope this DL mess is over and Danny and Rikki will have their fresh start together.

imo this is one rumor that has totally been started by the fandom itself and started to live a life of its one.

But does it matter where it came from? Maybe it did start from fandom because I for one had been saying Rikki may come back pregnant long before it was announce Rikki was coming back. I'm sure several people had written Ausiello and others to ask if she was. It seems like a valid question to me. I've always questioned whether or not Danny and Rikki used protection since they were both lost in the heat of the moment. Pam Veasey did not confirm or deny it so it very well could go either way. Seems like a good reason to keep Rikki for a few episodes.

Some quotes from Ausiello:

Any idea what Season 5 of CSI: NY will bring for Danny/Lindsay fans?
Ausiello: Rikki's returning, so you tell me.

I love how he worded this. OK, I'll tell him. It tells me that she will not bring good news for them.

"A lot of things are going to happen with Danny that don't involve Lindsay, but she's going to come to the rescue and still be a part of that relationship."

Maybe that's because those things will happen with Rikki. Maybe Lindsay coming to the rescue is no more than something happening to Danny at work or maybe something happens to Rikki and Lindsay comes to the rescue which would make her still a part of the DR relationship. Who says she won't be happy for Danny. She was trying to get over him in Season 4 with telling Mac it was stupid to get involved with a coworker and not going to Danny's when he asked her too. So, it's very possible she would be happy for DR and that would also keep her in the DR relationship.

Whatever reason Rikki is back for, it will involve Danny.

 

[JellyBelly]

I have to say even as a D/L fan I quite like those spoilers, but then again them being together is not the be all and end all for me, it's more about retaining their on screeen chemistry and of course the hope that they'll be together eventually! .

It sounds as though they're going to be clearing up some stuff re. Lindsay's character and that can only be a good thing. The thing that keeps coming up for me is that they only really showed danny's grief/guilt affecting his relationship with Rikki and as a consequence his relationship with Lindsay. I'm hoping the 'rescue' spoiler is going to be about more fallout from that and that we see this affecting him in other ways too, and we actually see Lindsay reaching out to him. I think there's a real opportunity for tptb to focus on their friendship and to show it's not all one sided with Danny the one who goes out of his way for her.

As for Lindsay having a new man in her life, that can be good too. We've been asking for them to show her having a life outside of the lab and Danny.

Hmmm, on a more general note I think it's intersting and dare I say a 'little' concerning that they're having so many recurring characters that are attached personally to the main cast. Admittedly Lindsay's 'man' could have a professional role but with Rikki and Flack's sister in tow as well it does make me wonder if they're going to have time for the crime. I shall keep the faith though and hope that tptb will make it good. I wonder what Mac and Stella will be doing in S5. Making the coffee perhaps?

 

[Elsie]

Hmm, interesting spoilers... I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with this.

I think the prospect of Lindsay moving on and spreading her wings is a good thing, she did say that she wanted to 'get over' him.

JellyBelly, I don't imagine that the relationship stuff will really get in the way of the cases though. Yes, there's talk of a few recurring characters, but a little continuity and personal time away from the cases is something that I would definitely like to see. And if they manage to do that using a couple of good recurring characters then all the better. I think it could add rather than detract from the show and will most likely take up very little screen time in total.

 

[Kimmychu]

dutch_treat said:
Well, that was/is the worst case scenario for a lot of people, so I can just imagine that both have had a lot of questions about that...imo this is one rumor that has totally been started by the fandom itself and started to live a life of its one.

Still, the fact Matt Mitovich specifically chose a question that directly asked if Rikki's returning pregnant and Ausiello asked Pam Veasey about it is very telling in itself. Pam Veasey may not have said anything, but she didn't deny it either. Instead, she chose to answer that Lindsay is eyeing another man, which is also telling. So regardless of whether it's just a 'fandom rumor' or not, TPTB hasn't denied it yet and it seems confirmed Lindsay's moving on with another guy. (By the way, it's interesting Veasey only mentioned Lindsay having eyes for the guy. It would be double burn if that ends up one-sided too. :lol

And if the pregnancy speculation does turn out bust, Rikki's confirmed to be returning for more than one episode and maybe up to four. Possibly even more, when the writers develop the story for Rikki's return when they return to work this coming Monday. They're not back to work yet and already they're estimating Rikki will show up in up to four episodes!

As Matt said, looks like Danny and Rikki have a lot to catch up on!

JellyBelly said:
The thing that keeps coming up for me is that they only really showed danny's grief/guilt affecting his relationship with Rikki and as a consequence his relationship with Lindsay. I'm hoping the 'rescue' spoiler is going to be about more fallout from that and that we see this affecting him in other ways too, and we actually see Lindsay reaching out to him.

But Lindsay gave him the Monologue of Doom then treated him badly for weeks afterwards, pushing him away when he wanted to talk to her, behaving hypocritically, etc. And when he called her, she just told him how 'hard it was to love him'. She had many chances to reach out to him from as far back as episode 4x11 (so we're talking ten episodes here) ... and she didn't. So the question is, why would she only do it after all this time, after Rikki is back in Danny's life?

Heh, that just made a thought occur to me: Perhaps the Green Monster is going to be a rather constant presence in season five, eh?

Elsie said:
Yes, there's talk of a few recurring characters, but a little continuity and personal time away from the cases is something that I would definitely like to see. And if they manage to do that using a couple of good recurring characters then all the better. I think it could add rather than detract from the show and will most likely take up very little screen time in total.

Agreed. Just a matter of screen time management and showcasing the characters on a balanced schedule. Criminal Minds pulls it off with style. I'm sure CSI:NY can do it too!

 

[MBGrissom]

Verrrry interesting spoilers, thanks for bringing them over, Shane! :thumbsup:

It does indeed sound like they'll be allowing Lindsay to spread her wings a bit sans Danny (and vice versa), and I'm intrigued to see what they do with that. This could end up bringing in ultimately satisfying scenarios for both characters (and both sides of the fanship, for that matter ). And I agree with Elsie, if it means a bit of continuity and character backstory/background, I'm all for a couple of good recurring characters, here and there. Look how much the addition of Reed did for Mac's character...

 

[MacsLady]

It does sound like TPTB are finally going to be separating D/L. I am so happy to read that a lot of stuff that's going to happen with Danny is going to be sans Lindsay. It sounds too like Lindsay's going to get some solo development too, which is good. I liked Lindsay in s2, before the whole D/L thing started in earnest, and am really hoping to see that Lindsay again.

 

[Dawni]

For some reason i was sat grinning as i read the spoilers :lol:

I'm mildly happy they are not pairing DL up as much as i like the couple, i think because it needed a good resolution or a fresh start and friendship works a lot better and now maybe the bantering could come back.

Mainly because it wasn't what i expected to hear, Danny solo issues i could deal with its what we expect from him can't expect any less but it to me sounded more trouble than anything and i am thinking it must be to do with the return of Rikki.
But Lindsay coming to his rescue i'm not sure how to take but it could be a way of showing us that yes they are friends but anything more wasn't working.

Lindsay's male interest, as much as i like DL i think its the way to go, mainly because her character needs to show that she is strong outside of Danny as a back up, and so far we don't know much this could be a good way to develop her and show us how good she is.

It all sounds very very interesting and its driving me mad.

 

[JellyBelly]

JellyBelly, I don't imagine that the relationship stuff will really get in the way of the cases though. Yes, there's talk of a few recurring characters, but a little continuity and personal time away from the cases is something that I would definitely like to see. And if they manage to do that using a couple of good recurring characters then all the better. I think it could add rather than detract from the show and will most likely take up very little screen time in total.

I agree, I don't 'really' think they would let the relationship stuff get in the way, I think my 'little' concern really is very tiny and based on the fact that this feels like somewhat new territory for them. But, in the spirit of improved continuity I think it's kinda exciting.

JellyBelly said:
The thing that keeps coming up for me is that they only really showed danny's grief/guilt affecting his relationship with Rikki and as a consequence his relationship with Lindsay. I'm hoping the 'rescue' spoiler is going to be about more fallout from that and that we see this affecting him in other ways too, and we actually see Lindsay reaching out to him.

So the question is, why would she only do it after all this time, after Rikki is back in Danny's life? Heh, that just made a thought occur to me: Perhaps the Green Monster is going to be a rather constant presence in season five, eh?

The main thing that struck me with the whole s4 D/L stuff was that Lindsay was too emotionally involved to truly be there for him, there was too much baggage in their relationship for Danny to turn to her or for her to be the person he needed. The difference in our views is that you see her as selfish whereas I see her as equally screwed up as Danny is. By stepping back from their 'relationship' and focusing on the friendship, which is what I think tptb are hinting at here, then maybe she can be a better friend to him right now. Maybe his demons become more obvious to her when she steps back or because of whatever fallout there is from Rikki's return (and yes, I think there will be fallout and it won't be as simple as Rikki turning up pregnant or otherwise, Danny choosing to be with her and blowing off selfish, immature Lindsay, really!).

As for the jealousy thing, I know this whole storyline has turned into a 'shipper war' in the fandom but I really can't see there being that level of bitchy rivalry on the show, that really would be taking it too far.