Anna/Lindsay thread #3- "Hello, Ms. Monroe"

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Does anyone else think that we will barely see Anna in tonight's episode, even though it involves her being bit by a snake? I think they will use that in order to have her not onscreen, and won't have to use a file folder or weird camera angles in order to cover her pregnancy. JMO, though.
 
As much as I do like to see D/L together that doesn't mean that I don't like to see some development of Lindsay on her own. For me she doesn't have to be on a case with Danny every week. It would be nice to see her together with one of the others (no preferences) and see how they'd interact. Or let her handle a case on her own, using her experiences as a CSI back in Montana.

I still cannot figure out the strange way they're handling Anna being pregnant. I love her acting in Lindsay's interrogation scenes. Give her more of those. She can sit behind a desk to hide her belly and have some great screentime.
 
^Yeah, for some reason, I think it would be good if she worked more cases with another character. It would mix it up more instead of having her work with Danny EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! It does get monotonous after like, 5 EPISODES!!!
 
It would mix it up more instead of having her work with Danny EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!
That was in season 1. They haven't worked together on a case since Oedipus Hex.

But, I agree. I'd like to see more character developement in Lindsay before a hookup.
 
Does anyone else think that we will barely see Anna in tonight's episode, even though it involves her being bit by a snake? I think they will use that in order to have her not onscreen, and won't have to use a file folder or weird camera angles in order to cover her pregnancy. JMO, though.
So very true. :rolleyes: Seriously, can they be any more obvious about when they need to get Lindsay out of the episode for a while?

I love her acting in Lindsay's interrogation scenes.
Hmm, we'll have to disagree on that one. ;) I prefer her in the lighter moments and in the lab doing the scientific stuff.

It would mix it up more instead of having her work with Danny EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! It does get monotonous after like, 5 EPISODES!!!
Like kissmesweet said, that hasn't really happened since season 2, but the character has just been totally diluted since the beginning of the season, and the only real impression she seems to have made is last season when the writers had her and Danny working every case together while Mac and Stella worked together on the other case, with poor Hawkes moving between them like a third wheel. :rolleyes:

But, I agree. I'd like to see more character developement in Lindsay before a hookup.
I agree up until the part about the hookup. I think she should be developed. Period.

Hooking up is extraneous. The character has been mishandled so far, and I really wish that her character could just be considered on her own, with nothing about Danny in the conversation[/i]. I know it's a popular pairing, but so little discussion about her seems to be able to exist without him coming into the mix. Talk about Lindsay alone...and the conversation dies off very quickly. That's a sad sign, in my opinion. :(

I really wanna see her work one on her own with Flack or Stella.
I'd really love to see more of her with Stella, to be honest. How much have they interacted? Yeah, Mac is the boss, but I remember a lot more of her with him than with Stella...
 
It's refreshing to see that people do want to see Lindsay developed on her own; it seems like so much of the time she gets discussed in the context of Danny. I think if there's any hope for the character--and I'll readily admit I'm not convinced there is--it lies in developing her as a well-rounded character on her own. I am interested to see how she's going to handle what happens in episode 12 and how her secret is revealed, and the repercussions of that in an episode later in the season (that's presuming that Anna's pregnancy didn't force a change of plans).

allstar12 said:
Gotta agree with that. A lot of people (Carmine included ;) ) mention that they like the City Boy vs. Country Girl dynamic, as do I.

To be totally accurate, he didn't say he liked it--he just mentioned that that was the dynamic between them (city boy vs. country girl). He's actually rather evasive in interviews about it--one time he said he wished Jane from DNA was Danny's love interest. The most positive thing he's ever said about it was that it's always nice when characters have a special care for each other...but then he went on to talk about Danny's friendships with Mac and Flack first. The romance aspect really hasn't done anything for Danny or Lindsay as characters, so I'm not surprised Carmine doesn't praise it.

audacity said:
I don't think they just stuck her together with a popular character to make her popular. If she wasn't working out on the show they would have just let her go. It's not like Hollywood is full of sympathetic people not wanting to tell a nice actress to hit the road. They wouldn't have hestistated to get rid of her.

Actually, I think the number of different incarnations (the over-eager lab geek, the lighthearted girl, the gloomy, emotional woman with a dark secret) of Lindsay's character the writers have tried is evidence that the character hasn't clicked yet. I think they're hoping the dark secret stuff will do it--whether that is the case or not remains to be seen. I doubt they'd want to write the character off so soon after Aiden's exit, and of course now they're not going to sack a pregnant woman--that has lawsuit written all over it. :lol:
 
Top41 said:
I doubt they'd want to write the character off so soon after Aiden's exit, and of course now they're not going to sack a pregnant woman--that has lawsuit written all over it. :lol:

Well, they did do it in Vegas I think... with that one DNA girl that was there for a day... then with the chick who played Mia. (For the love of me I can't remember her real name.) So maybe they could've gotten rid of her earlier if they wanted.

BTW, what would she sue for?

Anyways, I'm hoping this would turn more into a Ryan Wolfe/Jonathan Togo thing. Where Ryan was attached to Calleigh's hip 24/7 and everyone hated him for it. But cut the umbilical (sp?) cord and now he's developing on his own and becoming quite popular. Not saying that everyone hates the character of Lindsay, but as huge of a fan I am of Anna and Lindsay, I'll even say she doesn't have the biggest fanbase here.
 
The romance aspect really hasn't done anything for Danny or Lindsay as characters
I've seen interview when I was in Hong Kong on AXN and Carmine was showing off his camera phone. It was like a Behind-the-Scenes thing and he was taking photos of Anna. Then he goes and says to the camera, "That's Lindsay. I like her and so does Danny," in his normal voice (not accented. he sounds so different; it freake me out!) Then he goes and he says "CHEEESE." in this cheesy-voice. :lol: Not very well described, but I do believe that Carmine likes the idea of his character having some romance and with Lindsay. (I'm not saying this as a D/L shipper.)

Anyway... I think that they should put off any hookups or romance until a major developement or secret in Lindsay's past and character is revealed. :) That way people can like Lindsay as a character and not as someone's love interest.
 
Well, they did do it in Vegas I think... with that one DNA girl that was there for a day... then with the chick who played Mia. (For the love of me I can't remember her real name.) So maybe they could've gotten rid of her earlier if they wanted.
Weren't those just guest characters or recurring characters? That's not the same as a main character who's in the opening credits from the get-go.

To be totally accurate, he didn't say he liked it
I've noticed the same thing. I'm not going to pretend to know what he's thinking, but the length of answers relating to Danny's relationship with other characters compared to the length of answers relating to D/L is interesting.

It was like a Behind-the-Scenes thing and he was taking photos of Anna. Then he goes and says to the camera, "That's Lindsay. I like her and so does Danny,"
Maybe you'd have to see it. *shrug* I'm sure Carmine likes Anna, she seems like a very sweet woman and the actors never have a bad thing to say about her. But whether acknowledging that his character has a storyline with her means he likes it...Dunno. This not being a Carmine thread, I'll refrain from expressing my unhappiness that the TV Guide for the "Hot Guys of CSI" mentioned Greg being in danger, Eric finding the people who were responsible for his sister's death--and Danny and Lindsay's possible hook-up. :rolleyes: As if that was the most important development for his character in the season. I'm not Carmine, but as an actor I'd think that would be frustrating when you put so much of yourself into a character (a very intense and interesting character), and then suddenly it's like the character's only importance is as half of a romantic pairing.

I said I wasn't going to talk about it and I did. :rolleyes:

I am interested to see how she's going to handle what happens in episode 12 and how her secret is revealed, and the repercussions of that in an episode later in the season (that's presuming that Anna's pregnancy didn't force a change of plans).
I hope not, considering that they knew about the pregnancy and had a chance to alter their plans before the season even started...but then I don't know anything about how things work on a show like this.

Anyway, I also hope that the events of 'episode 12' or whenever it's happening, go a long way toward giving Lindsay a solid backstory and a dynamic character.

Actually, I think the number of different incarnations (the over-eager lab geek, the lighthearted girl, the gloomy, emotional woman with a dark secret) of Lindsay's character the writers have tried is evidence that the character hasn't clicked yet.
That's my feeling exactly. Whether they just didn't have an idea for the character initially or their original plans didn't pan out, I can't say, but it certainly didn't have the feeling of exploring different facets of the same character. If that was the intent, it was choppy.

Not saying that everyone hates the character of Lindsay, but as huge of a fan I am of Anna and Lindsay, I'll even say she doesn't have the biggest fanbase here.
I think it's more that most people just aren't enthusiastic about her one way or another. In a show with some amazing characters, Lindsay was a substandard addition from what we've seen of her so far (IMO). As someone who isn't a 'huge fan' as you mentioned, I think it comes down to the fact that I just don't see a reason to really like her. *shrug* I don't hate her, but I don't love her either--I guess I'm more ambivalent at this point. I'm willing to have the writers change my mind, but we'll see...

Anyway... I think that they should put off any hookups or romance until a major developement or secret in Lindsay's past and character is revealed. That way people can like Lindsay as a character and not as someone's love interest.
Because if we like the character a bit more we'll more open to the romance? Is it not possible to conceive of a future for Lindsay where she isn't dating Danny? I'm not seeing much evidence of that in here. If the character is so likeable, can't she be enjoyed without the relationship? Considering the way people reacted when Lindsay turned Danny down in "Love Run Cold" (even though a lot of them knew she was going to), I'm very curious about that. When she said she couldn't be in a relationship right now, the main reaction seemed to be outrage that anybody could let anything stand in the way of hooking up with Danny--as if Lindsay couldn't have a totally unrelated (but very intelligent and believable) reason to not want to deal with it. I didn't see much of anything relating to Lindsay herself until after the anger had worn off (unless thinking that she must have something serious going on in her personal life to turn him down counts, in addition to accusations that she was either crazy or just stupid). In the interest of Lindsay's character being stand-alone and self-sufficient, I think viewers--including some of her biggest fans--need to see her alone and far away from a relationship with Danny. Otherwise she'll just never have value on her own, IMO.

In the end, I'm just not supportive of two main team members dating each other and all of the drama that would be involved in that crapshoot. (Shipping, remember, doesn't have to happen on the show.) I can deal with Mac/Peyton since she's not a main character, and I accept that her only development is within the context of her relationship with Mac because that was the purpose of her introduction to the show. Over a long period, I don't want Mac/Peyton to be a big deal, but with maybe 3 episodes so far, it's not dominating Mac's character (as a main member of the team). Danny/Lindsay just doesn't have a point to me other than bringing an unnecessary romantic aspect to the show and taking valuable screentime and development away from the individual characters involved (as well as those on the periphery). Yes, characters can get some development in the context of a romantic pairing, but seriously, are the writers not competent enough to manage to show us more about Lindsay and Danny without them dating???

In the end it seems to come down to the fact that most Lindsay fans I've seen on the internet seem to support the D/L thing, and I can't figure out how significant that is. *shrug* Perhaps the character's main appeal really is just as a romantic interest, in which case I can understand my personal ambivalence--the character has redeeming qualities as a person in her own right, but if they don't take advantage of that, I'm not going to warm up to her, however much Danny might end up fawning over her. *shrug*
 
Faylinn said:
Well, they did do it in Vegas I think... with that one DNA girl that was there for a day... then with the chick who played Mia. (For the love of me I can't remember her real name.) So maybe they could've gotten rid of her earlier if they wanted.
Weren't those just guest characters or recurring characters? That's not the same as a main character who's in the opening credits from the get-go.

Good point. And this is why I leave the tv thing to the people who know more about it. It's not working for Vegas, and it wouldn't work for NY.
 
I'm not Carmine, but as an actor I'd think that would be frustrating when you put so much of yourself into a character (a very intense and interesting character), and then suddenly it's like the character's only importance is as half of a romantic pairing.
I see that actually, but at the end of the day-- we appreciate the CHARACTERS and not for who they're with.

Oh and I'll have to give the props to TPTB for being original by sending Anna off most of the episode, by giving her a snakebite. :lol: Haven't seen that before.
 
Last night she said she had a pinto... well I was curios

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way to go Linds. :p
 
CSI808 said:
Well, they did do it in Vegas I think... with that one DNA girl that was there for a day... then with the chick who played Mia. (For the love of me I can't remember her real name.) So maybe they could've gotten rid of her earlier if they wanted.

That character (the first lab tech) existed to exit the show. She was meant to show how high pressure the Vegas lab is, and usher in Mia.

BTW, what would she sue for?

If they fired her now, she could sue saying they did it because she's pregnant. Not that they would or she would even if they did, but the possibility exists. A woman fired from a soap a few years back (Hunter Tyro I believe her name was) did just that.

Anyways, I'm hoping this would turn more into a Ryan Wolfe/Jonathan Togo thing. Where Ryan was attached to Calleigh's hip 24/7 and everyone hated him for it. But cut the umbilical (sp?) cord and now he's developing on his own and becoming quite popular. Not saying that everyone hates the character of Lindsay, but as huge of a fan I am of Anna and Lindsay, I'll even say she doesn't have the biggest fanbase here.

There was definitely some resistance to Ryan in the beginning (Speed was a more popular character than Aiden by far), but I think that faded when Ryan was quickly developed with his own quirks and nuances. And though he was paired with Calleigh often, he had other things going on--clashing with Delko, courting the news media, etc. The pairing with Calleigh wasn't overtly romantic either (it's open to interpretation).

kissmesweet said:
I've seen interview when I was in Hong Kong on AXN and Carmine was showing off his camera phone. It was like a Behind-the-Scenes thing and he was taking photos of Anna. Then he goes and says to the camera, "That's Lindsay. I like her and so does Danny," in his normal voice (not accented. he sounds so different; it freake me out!) Then he goes and he says "CHEEESE." in this cheesy-voice. :lol: Not very well described, but I do believe that Carmine likes the idea of his character having some romance and with Lindsay. (I'm not saying this as a D/L shipper.)

Just to echo what Fay said--he said he likes the character, not the romance. Big difference. Again, I'm not trying to speak for him, but I do find it interesting that he's been interviewed so many times about this, and is in general a guy who has a lot to say...and yet he's never praised the pairing. If he gets interviewed tomorrow and says, "I love what the writers are doing with Danny and Lindsay; the romance is great!" I'll stand corrected.

Anyway... I think that they should put off any hookups or romance until a major developement or secret in Lindsay's past and character is revealed. :) That way people can like Lindsay as a character and not as someone's love interest.

The problem with that is that they have to make her likable in the first place. I do wish they and Anna would try a little harder.
 
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