Why Lindsay Must Go (Part 3)

From what I've read, quite a few people here would like Lindsay better if she was played by a better actress. Not to diss Anna, but some of her scenes make me think that there has to be someone who could've played her better.
As for the D/L thing, the reason I think it's rushed might be that it took seven seasons so really get into Sara/Grissom on Vegas, and last time I watched it there still weren't a lot of real and lasting relationships on Miami (except around Natalia), and yet it took barely two seasons for Danny and Lindsay to hook up. Not that relationships like that don't happen, just not like that.
And as Fay said, there has to be a reason there are 2000+ post here, and that reason has to be bigger than "we don't like her".

 

This is the Why Lindsay Must Go Thread. I would expect dislike in here and whether it's over focused or not, is just an opinion. I find it fascinating that we are now on the third thread with over 2000 posts on the subject. That should say something about the character of Lindsay.

Yes, I know he says that but at least he seems to make more of an effort when it comes to his character and he has said before they use their ad-libs a lot of the time. IMO, Anna just either doesn't care much about Lindsay and/or she just didn't bother to take them time to give a good enough reason but my real point was that other actors on the show have mentioned more than once how they discuss their characters with the writers. It's not always necessarily to change things. It could very well just be to understand where the writers are coming from.

I don't agree that bad editing can be blamed for Lindsay being a bad character. I think it's several things. I know that bad editing isn't what makes her have that one single scrunch faced looked for almost every emotion.

I've noticed that too. I've also never seen another character where her fans also complain about a lot of the stuff others who don't like her complain about.

 

*hangs head* Yes, ma'am.

I don't think so, no. People often complain that Hawkes doesn't get storylines, for example, but his relevance and importance are never questioned--what I see is generally people wanting more because Hill/Hawkes is just good like that. :lol:

 

Oh I know some place that is like this. With fluff and pinks and fogs and everything.

Oh? Well, what else is there to talk about with Lindsey? And hey... *see thread title

Huh? How does that make it fun? Makes it confusing, that's what it does.

 

I'm coming back into the thread after a little while.
We are currently just about to have Child's Play in the UK and Lindsay to be fair hasn't be as annoying a character this year. She seems to be in the background more which is fine by me.
I think the main problem is no one really understands what kind of CSI she is. She isn't compassionate or edgy and I don't know, she doesn't make me feel any sympathy at all to her character. If anyone else had her storylines they would knock it out of the ball park.
I think we all are finding it hard to relate with her as Lindsay because the interviews that Anna is doing shows she doesn't really have a clue about the character either. We have read several interviews with Carmine, Eddie and even AJ and they seem to know there characters inside out and have aspects of themselves thrown in there. Anna just seems to turn up to work and just read her lines. It's just a job to her nothing more, nothing less.
That maybe completely wrong but that's my take on it.

 

I suppose I wasn't refering to this thread in particular, but the way the same people from this thread will jump on anything positive said about Lindsay anywhere on this board. I get that that's why this thread is here.

I feel like Lindsay acts like Lindsay and I like Lindsay. Most of the people I talk to, blog with, don't like the fluffy D/L stuff, but the consistent relationship and her view of being a CSI--it's not Danny's or Stellas or Macs. It doesn't make sense to you, it does make sense to others. She's accused of being self centered, I suppose its a little self-centered to title a thread "why Lindsay must go" so the show can be as you want it. I know! I know! It's the purpose of the thread

Some of the things I see from the discussion are things like ... hey, look how she left Adam alone with the puzzle and jumped in when Mac showed up. But come on. She was working with a rock and a cardboard box. If it had been the other way around, it would have been said that Lindsay left Adam with the rock and a cardboard box and got the more exciting puzzle ... hey. It had mediam velocity blood spatter on it.

Or in dealing with the case with her friends. If she had been really emotional, I'm sure people would have complained (rightly so) that she's been a CSI and involved with this for years, dealing with it. She became a CSI to deal with it. She should have a better handle on it. She did get more emotional on day 1 ... the second day she had control. Too much Drama is just melodrama.

That's what I mean by over focused. You can look at everything you say from two different ways.

And FYI ... this post has gotten to 2000 plus not because 2000 plus people have had a lot to say, but because the same people keep jumping in and saying the same things. Look from today and yesterday. That's okay. The same people that usually post, posted again. Numbers mean very little and I tend to stay away from them in trying to prove a point.

FYI I am a fan of old TV. I like when the relationships take a back seat and are part of who the characters are as a whole. I work with people who are in healthy relationships, are married, and they act (at work) just like Danny and Lindsay do on the job. I think its important for that type of healthy relationship to be seen in the workplace and as scientists, I'm sure in real life it happens. I don't like the drama and the focus to be about the relationships. Especially a crime show. So I support the relationship of Danny and Lindsay and I think if you accepted that Lindsay is supposed to be different from her counterparts, you could accept the acting. She just acts like Lindsay.

 

When people who don't like Lindsay respond to points made about why someone likes Lindsay it's more often than not seen as "jumping on" the poster or the character. Yet, when people who like Lindsay come in and make accusations/generalizations about the people who don't like Lindsay, that is somehow OK. That makes no sense to me.

You're right. Some people like her and see her as consistent and others don't. Thus the reason for this thread - some people don't like her and the character doesn't make sense to them. If you understand that I don't see what your problem is with this thread or those who dislike Lindsay. It's all opinion - no one is claiming to have the right answer.

People who like Lindsay make posts on how they'd like Lindsay to behave, what story lines they'd like to see for her, how they'd like DL to develop so the show can be as they want it. People who do and don't like Lindsay talk about what they want from other characters and their story lines. You talk about how you like the show with Lindsay as she is. I guess we're all selfish and want the show to be what we like, aren't we?

And from people who like Lindsay you'll get a complaint about her needing to have things explained to her like she's stupid. But then when she explains something, the same people will complain about her being used as a Captain Obvious. What you're describing is hardly unique to people who dislike Lindsay or even unique to complaining about a particular character.

People mostly complained about inconsistency and bad acting. The story and portrayal weren't convincing to some.

You can look at anything anyone says from more than one angle. And as Top said, it's a message board - everyone here is over focused on CSI: NY and its characters and stories. From what I've seen, most of your posts to this forum have been concentrated on people who don't like Lindsay and their motivations. I would call that over focused.

You're right. Just like there haven't been four Anna/Lindsay threads because 3000+ people like her. The same people ususally post over and over in that thread and the same points are discussed repeatedly. That happens with all topics of discussion, not just those about Lindsay. The point isn't that 2000+ people dislike Lindsay. The point is that the dislike is strong enough from people who do dislike her to keep the discussion going.

Yeah, it does happen. But seeing Danny and Lindsay's relationship as healthy is just another opinion. I personally don't see it that way and I don't think it's been convincing as to how or why these two would be together or how they relate to each other now that they are together.

We all know Lindsay is supposed to be different from her counterparts. TPTB take every opportunity to shove her being from Montana down our throats. That has nothing to do with the acting. What you're basically saying is that if we all accept your opinion everything would be fine. Sorry, I have my own brain and I'm not afraid to use it.

 

I am sorry, but this doesn't make any sense to me. Like PerfectAnomoly brought up: we know that Lindsay is supposed to be different from her counterparts. She should be. Why would they put another character in who was just like a character they already had?

The implication in your statement is that all her counterparts are the same when they clearly aren't. They are all different; different from Lindsay and different from each other. They are supposed to be. And yet, I like all the others. Granted I like them to differing degrees, but there is no other character that I dislike. So, the fact that she is different from her counterparts has nothing to with anything about why I dislike her. As a matter of fact, it would be pretty weird if she came in and tried to be the same as Stella or any one else in the lab. Of course, if she did, then we could point out on this thread that her character serves no purpose at all because she is just like "x" character

 

I'm on the of the original Lindsay-haters. I watched the first season religiously, and though I found Aiden somewhat bland and grating (and also pretty poorly acted), I was still intrigued. I figure this has something to do with the natural chemistry VF had with the other actors. Nonetheless, I wasn't too choked up when she left. I understand that Lindsay is an entirely separate character than Aiden, but it doesn't come off that way -- to me, Lindsay was introduced so Stella would not be the only female on the team. Unnecessary, in my opinion, as Stella is strong enough for the show and has so far been portrayed as such (besides, of course, the cringe worthy All Access).

I would have been much more receptive to the character had she not come off as so self-insisting. There's always been a "Ooh, look at me! I'm your all-American girl-next-door but I kick ass, take names and settle down for a dish of deep fried spider after!" quality about her, and after the first ten seconds it gets kind of annoying. I wouldn't mind Lindsay as a lab tech, detective or coroner who got minimal screen time and even less story lines, but instead I get spoonfed this nonsense about her tr00 luv with Danny and AB's piss-poor acting.

In short: No thanks. If I was looking for sappy rating grabs I'd watch Degrassi. All the same drama, just aimed at an appropriate age group without the pretentiousness.

 

I'll "accept the acting" the minute I believe Anna isn't Anna but she IS Lindsay. Not acting like Lindsay.

 

I Have no complaints.lol I Love her and much more then Aiden.I Didn't connect with her character at all.And I like Anna much better as a actress and so far im enjoying her.

 

I didn't like Aiden, but I didn't dislike her either. She was sort of "just a babbling character". I realized a few days ago that I actually watched many episodes of Medical Investigation (the one Anna was in) way back before I started watching NY. My conclusion? Until I rewatched M.I. after CSI I realized that was Anna playing the part of that journalist. So I just thought why I didn't even notice her on MI but on CSI she stands out in a negative way? Found multiple reasons. One of them is that she was pushed to stand out since the first episode, and quite frankly I didn't like her from Zoo York. Too many Montana references (that went on and on throughout the seasons till present day). Silent Night was the episode that sealed my dislike for Lindsay.