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Re: Season 9 *Spoiler Lab* Discussions

Did they change their birthdates? Cause the info I posted I got a long time ago from a post at fanforums' CSI board. Someone had found the info somewhere. It's possible tptb changed the year dates unless the original person who put that on a website (wherever the person on fanforums got it) made a typo or something. It's possible that they changed the dates ... I mean, is Lindsey really supposed to be as old as she is now? A couple of seasons ago she was 12. Now she's 15-16? I think they changed her age for storyline possibilities (but then never got to those storylines lol). So, I guess they could have changed Nick and Sara's ages as well. I could see them making Nick even younger if they decide to have the waitress on more as his gf (in order to make the age gap even less). Let's face it, George could play a lot younger than his real age. :lol: As for chemistry b/w the waitress and Nick, I don't think there was enough of her in the episode to really gauge that... at least not for me.

Me too, on both accounts. Actually, I'd love to see a scene of Nick and Greg playing basketball and both without their shirts. :drool: I mean, we've seen both shirtless on the show before. Nick's pool adventure :lol: and Greg's shower after being exposed to a possible toxic mold. I could see them playing basketball together. I could see Nick and Warrick doing that too, but that can never happen now (unless there are flashbacks).

Sure... I mean, look at ER. Several of its leading men left the show and the show is still going on (which actually surprises me, but...) without them. George Clooney, Anthony Edwards, Noah Wyle (and others)... and then Goran (can't spell his last name lol) left and they brought in John Stamos (who is very well known and pretty popular due to his Full House days).

Hmm.. intriguing title. Do we have any other info on the ep yet?

 

Re: Season 9 *Spoiler Lab* Discussions

I think airplanes have phones on them, but I'm not sure if you're allowed to use your own phones. I guess you could try, but they might not work. :lol: I kind of think Greg will be in his hotel room when he finds out about Warrick. He'll get on a plane right away and go back to Vegas. It would be dramatic to see Warrick die in Nick's arms. I like Nick being emotional because it gives George the oppurtunity to show just what an amazing actor he is.

Exactly. I wouldn't mind seeing her standing with Griss at the funeral, holding his hand or whatever and then when she gets ready to leave (giving him whatever reason she can't stay), she gives him a hug and a kiss on the cheek. I think that would be perfect and sweet. And it wouldn't be overdone. I think it wouldn't make the Warrick fans mad to see a little interaction, but then again, I can't really speak for them, can I? :lol:

Yeah, as long as one of the people isn't under the legal age, I don't really see the problem. Sure it can be controversial, but love is love.

I too have no objections to this waitress. I didn't see enough of her to make any kind of decision. It's possible that she was just a plot diversion... a reason for Nick not to leave with Warrick. As for GSR, I don't think there was enough of them together for there to be complaints. Everything was very subtle until Sara's last episode (which was understandable to have the less than subtly in that episode). I do not in anyway think they were taking over the show. :lol: I can't imagine why anyone would really even say that. I even thought their conversation in that one episode (where they were at some kind of old-fashioned like saloon/cathouse) where Sara asked him if he'd ever been with a prostitute and I can't remember exactly what he said in response, but I thought that scene was kind of cute.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood my post, but I was not in any shape or form bashing or criticizing GSR. I was just using their age difference as an analogy to how its silly for people to be complaining about Nick and the waitress. The age differences between both couples is so close. I just don't understand the big deal about the age differences. That's all I meant. Again, I apologize if that wasn't clear in my post.

It's true that I would not have voted to have Gil and Sara have a relationship and that if they had to have someone on the show hook up, I would have personally preferred Gil and Cath, but... that's just my preference. I have no objections to anyone else shipping Gil and Sara just because I do not. That would just be silly of me if I did.

I just meant that it was more effective as a storyline that they were subtle about it and that they didn't take it over the top. It made the kiss on her last episode much more effective because it was the first (and seemingly at the time the last) time we'd ever see that. I think that if the show had shown the two of them rolling around in the bed or making out in the broom closest (like some other shows do), it wouldn't have been as effective. It wouldn't have made you feel for them as much as you did. She hated leaving, but knew it was best for her sanity or whatever. That was a very powerful scene and I just think that it wouldn't have been so powerful if they'd gone over the top with the couple stuff. They were very subtle and that was nice. I think it was very smart on the writers' parts to do it the way they did it (as far as the relationship goes).

I do not hate Sara (in fact, I even used to be a Sandle shipper), but I do have issues with things the writers have done with her character (ie: not having her apologize to Catherine). I think that (as I stated before) it was a great disservice to the character as well as to Jorja that the writers didn't have her apologize to Catherine. The reason? I think that some people may have stopped like Sara after that point. I personally don't blame Sara, I blame the writers. :lol: But, I can also see how it could make some people stop liking the character. There are some people who find it hard to draw a line between the character and the actress and some of those who dislike Sara have put that dislike onto the actress which is completely unfair in my opinion. Some people though have a hard time telling the difference between fact and fiction. :lol:

I didn't think anything I said could have been taken as bashing or critcizing the pairing. I certainly didn't mean for it be taken that way. Nevertheless, I'm edited that previous post to try to clarify the point I was trying to make.

I do want to add about the age thing:

I was only saying that it's just strange that one bothers people (Nick and the waitress) when the other doesn't (Gil and Sara). I don't really give a flying flip about the age difference, personally. :lol: Age is irrelevant. Love comes in all shapes, forms, sizes and ages (look at Demi and Ashton who have a big age gap, but seem to be happy together). As long as one of them isn't under the legal adult age, what's the big deal? I mean maybe it would be weird if the guy was 90 and the girl was 19 or 20, but come on... Nick and the waitress is hardly that.

That is all I meant and was trying to say. Again, I apologize if it was taken the wrong way. But, I made the previous post at almost 2am my time. I was tired and blurry-eyed, so maybe that's why it may not have been clarified enough. But, I was in no way bashing the G/S relationship. I wouldn't do that (no matter how I felt about it) because I try to respect the people who do like them. I can state something like "I don't like the pairing" or "I prefer so and so with a different person", but I can't say "this relationship sucks" or something to that effect (like I've seen done on other sites) because that would be completely disrespectful to other fans. If I was going to say anything extremely negative about a particular pairing, I would leave it in the shipper's forum in the thread for the pairing of my choice. I would not put it where fans of that pairing could see it. Again, that would be completely disrespectful.

So, I'm sorry if my post was misinterpreted. That's what sometimes happens on the internet cause it's hard to tell the tone in which a comment is intended when you can't hear the person's voice. Again, I'm sorry if I upset anyone because that was certainly not my intention.

Again, I edited the previous post to make some clarifications and I hope that it no longer is mistaken as bashing anyone or any pairing, character, etc.

 

Re: Season 9 *Spoiler Lab* Discussions

I got these from The Ultimate CSI book, written by associate producer Corinne Marrinan and published in 2006, for what it's worth...

Grissom 8/17/56
Catherine 3/26/63
Warrick 10/10/71
Nick 8/18/71
Sara 8/16/71
Greg 5/7/75
Doc Robbins 1/19/53
Super Dave 6/22/72
Brass 1/2/51

 

Re: Season 9 *Spoiler Lab* Discussions

Thanks for posting this, Smokey. Wow! Super Dave is older than I would have thought he was. Brass is older than Doc Robbins? I wonder what Wendy, Henry, Archie and Hodges' ages are.

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I agree with the fact that its kind of a Hollywood cliche. I would hope that if they give Nick a serious relationship that they hire an actress who is fairly well-known... at least as well known as George Eads is.

Thanks, stokesgirl. I agree that it's great that the GSR fans get to see any interaction between the couple they ship.

Could someone help me with something though: I could have sworn that when CSI first aired, in the first episode Griss and Cath were talking and alluded to the fact that they had possibly had a relationship (or maybe fling) together in the past. But, after getting the DVD of that Season, that scene was no longer in it. Did I just imagine that scene or did they remove it on purpose?

Well, I agree that Sara does seem like an old soul and that did help make the age difference less obvious.

She did look young, but to me Nicky doesn't look as old as he is either, so it wouldn't really bother me. :lol: I'd still rather they get a more well-known actress to play the role of Nick's gf. I think it would go over better... even if she were in her 20s. But, as long as they don't bring in someone overly popular just for a ratings boost, I'll be okay. Stunt casting just irritates me. :lol: Shows like Will and Grace were famous for it. But, the waitress did remind me a little of Alicia Witt. I believe that's her name... the one from Cybill and 70s show.

If they wanted to do that though, wouldn't it make more sense to bring in someone that younger viewers were familiar with? I don't think anyone even knows this actress from anything.