Re: The Great Ship Debate
Okay, hi. I'm twins1729. I spoked here a few times.
Although, you can refer to me as Queen if you want. I'm the slash queen. lol
I ship slash. That's about it. Although there are few couples that I like that are het.
When I first started watching CSI is was the summer of 05. Queer as Folk had just ended (*cries*) and I needed another obsession. That's when I found CSI. I love it to death and I will from now on.
So, I began watching it because it was interesting and I
did like the science. I never thought I would get into the characters...boy was I wrong.
I began having a major crush on Greg. He's just more my type. I immediatly began to think of who to ship him with...a man, no doubt. I just wanted to. Nick came accross as a good candidate, but I kept browsing. Eventually I found nickandgreg.com, and jeez! I was hooked!
First it was just for fun! I thought it was just cute and hot! However, over this last year I began to get sucked into the ship even more. Soon, I found out they were not only one of the biggest ships on CSI....but the biggest slash couple. Not to mention the biggest slash couple on TV now and one of the biggest slash couples ever. I'm truely proud to be a part of this ship.
I have over 1100 contributions on the CSI WIKI, 10 music videos, a few fanfictions - and more in the works, art - drawing or computer, and chatting in places like these all the time.
Now, Loki (gregslabmouse) said some before, there are plenty of scenes where it seems like
somethings going on. Whether it's accidental or otherwise, or George and Eric or TPTB.
In "Face Lift," Greg's talking on his phone to to a girlfriend, he's saying "No, I love you more, etc." Nick comes in. VERY NEXT EPISODE "$35 K OBO," Greg mentions that he just went on a date with a girl. A NEW girl, and he tells Nick about it. So, one week he's in love with his girlfriend and the next he's dating new one. Now, whether or not he's actually dating these girls...I truely believe he's trying to make Nick jealous. IMO
Okay, let me tell you our top 10 moments.
10: What Can We Do To Help Him? - "Post Mortem" - After Nick testifies for Greg (yay!) and Warrick comes to talk to him in the locker room. Nick's sad, stressed, and a little mad. I do think it's just about Greg. I also think that Warrick knows. He wants to do anything to help Nick help Greg. Plus, Nick's almost in tears.
9: Thanks Doll - "Bad Words" - This one is simple. They flirt when Nick tells Greg to go through the matches. Then Nick pats Greg's chest (again) and calls him "Doll."
8: Eye Sex - "Felonius Monk" - Okay, nothing here but what us fans call complete eye sex. Just the look they give each other at the very end of the scene.
7: Nick Can't Keep His Hands Off Greg - "Who Shot Sherlock?" - Basically after Greg enters Grissom's office and finds out he passed. Nick can't keep his hands off him. He also seems very possesive over him when Catherine and Sara hug him. Then he runs straight to Nick when they have champainge.
6: Jaw Clench Of Love - "Fannysmackin'" - Okay, self-explanitory. Nick's obviously affected about Greg's attack. Then he crosses the line and punches Cole Tritt. Warrick really tries to pull Nick away. Again, I think he's doing it for Greg.
5: You Beeped Me From Accross The Hall? - "The Accused Is Entitled" - Cute scene where Greg calls Nick for the results. Nick just explains everything to him and it's basically just a cute scene.
4: Leggo My Greggo - "Scuba Doobie Doo" - Classic scene. Nick calls Greg "Greggo" after Catherine refers to Nick's "Partner." Which doesn't really mean anything, but I still think it's funny. I just love how Nick calls him that, and that name is still around now. Plus he's called him G, Doll, Boss, Einstein. All funny.
3: 'I Love You' Sign - "Abra Cadaver" - It's simple. Greg gives Nick and Catherine some CD's and a DVD. Nick tells Greg too keep looking. Greg give Nick the "rock on" sign, where Nick sign "I love you back." Now, these are one of those funny clues. It could mean nothing, or it could mean everything. Later, in "Crows Feet," Nick signs "rock on" and happens to do it correctly. There's also something where George Eads himself does it correctly. Also, in "Feeling The Heat," Greg may sign "I love you " when he's pointing at the map Nick and Sara are looking at.
2: I Thought We Had A Relationship - "Random Acts Of Violence" - Okay, it's self explanitory. Greg is freakin
jealous as hell that Nick to Archie into the field instead of him. Because that Nick and him had a "relationship." Now, Nick tries to explain, but Greg gives him this great "prove it" look and is still upset. It's great scene just to show how much Greg wants to help Nick.
1: Ass Check - "The Hunger Artist" - Simple to explain. After Greg's explains some evidence to Nick and Warrick, he walks away. Clear as freaking day, Nick checks out Greg's ass. If there is anything someone can do to change my mind feel free, but that scene is set in stone IMO.
Okay, there's that.
Another awesome moment is I'm Open 24 Hours in "A Little Murder." I just think it's so sweet. It's the only scene that has ever made me go "aw," and I did it twice.
Also, It Leaves Marks in "Room Service." It's one of those "did he just do that!" moments. Greg's explaining BCP (Breath Control Play) he leans and slightly whispers out of the side of his mouth to Nick, "And if you're not careful it leaves marks." lmfao I died.
I'm convinced that if they ARE dating (which Loki said, and go it from me) they have after "Grave Danger." Now if anyone wants to hear more proof, I don't have the time, but I can easilly make another post.
Some of these moments could be easilily explained. Though, they aren't as rediculous as some of the crap I've heard from Sandle, Snickers, or CatNip fans. Plus, no offense, Snickers makes me want to die. lol That's just the one couple where I don't and never have seen anything.
One thing I don't get about Snickers and Sandle. You guys seem to pride yourselfs as being such big Sara fans...though if you truely were, you'd realize how MUCH she likes Grissom. And this is not my opinion, and you shouldn't make it yours. The whole "Sara needs someone who will love her" arguement is crap because it's what you think. Not what Sara feels.
Same with Yo!Bling. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. In "The Finger" she kisses Warrick on the cheek, he consoles her in "A Little Murder." Not to mention that awesome scene in "Down The Drain." Plus, there's how jealous she was when he got married.
That's CANON. I think you were supposed to expect from that episode that Warrick's marriage would end in failure. I don't think that Catherine would date Nick if she likes Warrick so much.
Okay, back to The Love. When Nick and Greg are in a room together (not all the time) they're attention is on each other. They constantly ignore other people and keep eye contact. They're smitten. I think the number of fans say something in itself.
I think I've rambled enough. I'm positive that there's some points I've missed, but am too tired of typing anyway to think. So, I'll spare you for now and leave a link to the CSI: WIKI where I posted transcripts of the top 10 moments and clips.
Ta!
http://csiwiki.cbs.com/page/Obvious+Chemistry
PS: I HATE it when people say "I have nothing against slash or gay people" because that just convinces me more that you do. I also hate "they're too hot to be gay" or "I'm a girl so I don't like it." I'm a girl and being hot has LOT to do with me liking them in the first place too. Not that anyone's said that last two things here. I just hate that.
Also, for the record, you can't "go" gay or "turn" gay. That's just plain ignorant to say.
I ship
The Love
GSR
Yo!Bling
Sofia & Brass
Hondy
Handy
Finally, Greg and Nick both could be gay or bi. And DON'T base things off stereotypes. That's a useless arguement. Okay, I'm stoping. My hands hurt
