The Fort for Nick?greg slash fans #19

[my_last_chance]

I like your take on how Nicky's all alone but I'd rather have him call Greg as soon as possible. Greg's just arrived in LA, gets the call from Nick and tries to get the next flight back to Vegas. Ah, if only we Love fans could write that episode it would be so much better...

^-^ I'd rather Nicky call Greggo as well. No one should be alone during a time like that ... people do strange/destructive things when they are completely alone and in mental/physical pain.
I personally would absolutely just die if us Love fans got to write the episode. Man, in a perfect world (for me) there would be angst angst angst, a little bit of fluff, and more angst. Sadly, it would mostly be focused in on Nick/Greg, and would take away from the whole episode. It's s'posed to be about Warrick's dying, but it would end up situating around our boys. I guess that's why I'm not one of the writers ... hmm ... that gave me a thought. Would anyone else find it hard to write for CSI and not make the episodes all about the boys, or is it just me?

 

[Katlynn888]

I'M BACK FROM THE DEAD!

hehe. Okay, so...uh...looks like back there you were back on the subject of CBS refusing to make any of their characters gay.

My feelings: Some of them are having trouble realising that the younger generation needs their attention just as much as the older one.

What percent of the world do you think watches CSI? Less than ten percent? maybe twenty? And ten percent of the population is gay. *It's atleast that, could be more. ANd, think about it, if the gay population finds another show that supports them, and has character(s) on there that are gay (or bi) and maybe even taking it to the next level and having a reacurring gay couple, them think how much CSI's ratings would go UP? I mean...do the math, people...

RE - Warrick's dead while Greg's in LA - I have my own suspicions on that. I mean, best case senerio, Nick calls Greg and tells him Warrick's dead, and theat he needs him (If that happened, and I died right after, I would so die happy:drool or, an alternative (not as good) Grissom calls Greg, and tells him that he needs to come back, if not to help with the investigation, then the help in the whole group-healing thing. And, hopefully, we see him comforting Nick. Although I have a feeling it's going to be Catherine doing that.

Just got back from the wavepool. So fun. :lol: *is still wearing her bathing suit under her clothes*

Cheers, everyone!

-Lynn

 

[love_fan]

Hey, where is everyone? And where are all the "old" faces? Does anyone know about twins?

Anyway, to start a new discussion, I just thought about Inside the Box (S2, ep 23). I just loved it when they all sat together in the break room and had Chinese food. And look who sat next to each other:

A coincidence? I don't think so.

But what I really love about that episode (and it's a great episode!) is that Nick reacts to the questions of how the fortune gets into the cookie by touching Greg:

That's the best pic I could find, maybe you have a better screencap?

It's so natural, like he wants to say, "Hey, do you remember that documentation on TV about fortune cookies we watched the other day?" That was such a couply thing to do, I loved it.

Off topic: Does anyone know when S8 will be released on DVD?

 

[Dizzney]

It is true. Nick really does like to touch Greg as much as he can. :lol: I remember that little moment in Inside the Box. Maybe that was his way of saying he is glad that Greg was okay and back to work (and humor) after the lab explosion.

I think they are usually released in November, the DVD's. I just hope they have a lot of extras or have it cheaper since it is a shortened season. Hmm sone nice bloopers of George and Eric??!!

 

[my_last_chance]

Hey, where is everyone? And where are all the "old" faces? Does anyone know about twins?

^-^ I don't think they've been on here for a loonggg time. Our thread's just mainly a few people now. It's to be expected, I guess, since there are no new moments we can talk about till we get to the fall.

Anyway, to start a new discussion, I just thought about Inside the Box (S2, ep 23). I just loved it when they all sat together in the break room and had Chinese food. And look who sat next to each other:

A coincidence? I don't think so.

^-^ Nick and Greg seem to end up beside each other an awful lot. Well, maybe I should say "awful lot", since it sure makes me happy when they do. Even if they aren't sitting beside each other, they are right across from each other, and then we end up with moments like the Public Declaration of Love and in the finale we also saw Nick staring right at Greggo.

But what I really love about that episode (and it's a great episode!) is that Nick reacts to the questions of how the fortune gets into the cookie by touching Greg:

That's the best pic I could find, maybe you have a better screencap?

It's so natural, like he wants to say, "Hey, do you remember that documentation on TV about fortune cookies we watched the other day?" That was such a couply thing to do, I loved it.

^-^ I obviously wasn't watching close enough and I didn't even have a clue that Nick touched Greg. Dang, I gotta pay more attention.

It is true. Nick really does like to touch Greg as much as he can. :lol:

^-^ It really is true. Nick can't keep his hands off Greg, and we have the screen caps to prove it! Not like I have any, mind, but everyone else does. xD Like when Greg passed his proficiency test ... Nick just couldn't keep his hands off Greg. At all. Even when the girls were hugging him.
Ahh ... gotta love the touchy-feely Texan cowboy.

 

[Sara's Girl]

^-^ I don't think they've been on here for a loonggg time. Our thread's just mainly a few people now. It's to be expected, I guess, since there are no new moments we can talk about till we get to the fall.

There are still a few of us about! (Love fans in general I mean, I know I'm not exactly an 'old' face, though I've been lurking around this board for what feels like forever, before I started posting) I don't mind if there are new epis or not, I enjoy Nick/Greg all year round :lol: I never get to watch the new ones straightaway anyway, so I'm quite happy with my dvds and watching classic moments.

I never noticed that Nick touched Greg in Inside the Box either, though I love that one anyway (poor Greg) and it now deserves a rewatch. Love the idea of them watching a fortune cookie documentary together! I bet it would be Nick making Greg watch it though, and Greg would roll his eyes but would watch it anyway.

Yes, I would find it very very difficult to write for CSI without making it the Nick and Greg Make Out Show. lol. (hmm, that would be good, no? Though lots of murderers would go free I think, so maybe not)

Nice to have you back Lynn, and I admire your maths very much :thumbsup: I really really hope they let Greg come back for Warrick's funeral, it would not be right to have it without them all there. Apart from that he needs to be there for Nick, I hate to see Greg cut out of things, they do it so often.

On an O/T note...my sister is trying to choose a name for her baby and I have just spent the last two days unsuccessfully pushing 'Gregory' :lol:

I have written something a little....weird for me. It made me sad writing it and I kind of wish I hadn't. I kind of don't want to link for some reason but anyway it's at WMTDB if you feel like bumming yourself out. Heh.

Nat x

 

[LoneWolfe001]

I lurk often on this site. But its hard to comment if I haven't seen season 8. Are we allowed to discuss N/G fanfics.

 

[candygirl1uk]

Hmm my take on Play With Fire....I think Nick is conspicuous by his absence. He's in the AV lab with Archie at the time of the explosion, and though we see Archie after, no sign of Nick. I see no reason why he didn't follow the ambulance to the hospital, only returning to work when Greg is resting and Grissom calls him back.
Tptb are not the best when it comes to proper time continuity, but realistically there's no way anyone was let back into that lab to work for a few hours. They'd have had to make sure the explosion was an isolated incident for one thing.

Yep thats what I have been thinking or more to the point thats what I thought on the countless of times that I've seen that episode.Exactly maybe the whole scene of Greg going to the hospital was cut or something, but out of respect it would've been nice to see Nick in the hospital... Instead CBS consintrated once again on the Grissom and Sara angle.... Which was ok, but it was Greg that was injured more... Lets face it folks, with that sorta burns they'd leave scars.... His back and side would've and shouldv'e been scared for life...

Next time we see Nick he's back in the AV lab with Archie, still wearing the same clothes if I remember correctly. Which is weird cos no matter how far away the Nick was from the explosion, im sure his clothes should feel smelly and grubby from the smoke etc. So, what, he hasn't had time to go home and change or get to his locker? And to my mind, he looks a bit frazzled by then, concerned, maybe a little distressed even but trying to keep it private.
And I think Nick is too much a Southern gentleman about these things. He tries to fix things, it's only natural that with Sara shaken up, he'd feel that he had to put aside his feelings and be the 'strong one'. That he confronts Sara so aggressively about what it's like to have a gun pulled on you...well that seems a bit out of character for Nick normally, he'd be far more likely to just be concerned about her, unless he's already wound up and under stress. Just my two cents....

Exactly we do see Nick concerned for Sara, so why couldn't we see the same reaction from his fellow co-worker? I should actuarly watch that again because I have missed that point... Good find!

As for the other two. My love for Tarantino died a bit with GD. Because Greg's so completely out of it, to the extent that it's wildly out of character for him, even if he and Nick were just friends. Hodges seems more concerned! I have to think that Greg just shut down, couldn't cope emotionally, was just completely numb. Although I'm not sure even this accounts for how he is in the last couple of scenes when they rescue Nick. But I sort of notice a shift in his relationship with Warrick after this point. I know they were never close but we do get inklings of a camraderie between them right back to S1 when they're talking video games in the lab. 510 - No Humans Involved, Warrick is concerned enough to call and check up on him and we see the three of them laughing together at the end like three mates. Not that they were ever the best of friends but they seemed like two people that could have a laugh together, go out for drinks with their colleagues etc.
After GD it's like theres a noticeble cooling between them. 603 Bite Me- Warrick calls him Sanders. Gum Drops, Greg makes the Yoko Ono crack. 619 Spellbound it's almost icy, if in still professional. "Your former lab rat begged me for it/Next time you screw me up with Grissom..."
I don't know whether Warrick has found out about him and Nick. Possible, I can see him not caring that Nick's with a guy, or at least he gets over it pretty quickly, but I could definitely see him having a problem with that guy being Greg.

Oh there is no doubt in my mind at least that Warrick at least privately has had his suspicions about his friend for quiet some time. Saying it publically, now thats a different kettle of fish... Yeah I agree with you there, rememeber the banter Warrick and Nick had in one episode, I cant remember what it was called now, but I DO remember Warrick acting all feminine and saying something about loving him... Maybe I'm mixing up the two episodes who knows!!! Someone help me out here?

Warrick, however, does have a big time problem with Nick being with Greg. Warrick is not a silly man, infact, he is very street wise and smart in many ways.... Maybe he has tried (and failed) to set Nick up with a friend of a friend, so to speak.. Who knows...

Grave Danger was a very good episodes, which really got me interested in CSI as a show. However, the idea of Greg being there, but not really being there ( does that make sence) is VERY ODD to me. It's like QT had on purpose failed to recognise the subtext, and not always subtle flirting between the two men... Regardless of their status, weather friends, lovers, or nearly there (but not quite), or indeed soul mates, then this issue was wiped out of CSI.

I personally have my own reasons why QT did that..(which I'm not going to get into here!)

True, there is a lot of friction between Greg and Warrick, and maybe its because finally Warrick has had to acknowledge Greg as Nick's other half (for better or for worse!) Like I already said, Warrick has been, and is fine with Nick being gay, just not with Greg...

]I'm just about to rewatch Fannysmackin', but i think the way Nick reacts is pretty much how he did to a lesser degree with Sara in PWF, all his worry and concern gets turned into anger and he lashes out with Kfed. They've been together longer now so his behaviour is much more obvious. The way he says "I'd like to see Greg" at the end is filled with such tenderness makes me squee a bit. And Tptb continuity rule applies again here, there's no reason Nick hasn't been back and forth to the hospital throughout the episode, we just don't get to see it

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Ah, but we know very well, that Nick reacted so badly to Greg's beating up. You can see that, its a cannon fact (of their relationship)... Warrick forced Nick away from Pig.... Otherwise, Nick might'be been on suspension for his acts... Yes, the way he says that at the end of the episodes, does suggest to me that he has soo many build up emotions, either about being a CSI, being gay, being in a secret relationship with Greg, ( or wanting to be...)

Hey, where is everyone? And where are all the "old" faces? Does anyone know about twins?

On a personal note, I have no idea where all the "old regulars" have gone too, there have been so many, its weird that since the change they've stopped visiting the love.

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Anyway, to start a new discussion, I just thought about Inside the Box (S2, ep 23). I just loved it when they all sat together in the break room and had Chinese food. And look who sat next to each other:

A coincidence? I don't think so.

^-^

Nick and Greg seem to end up beside each other an awful lot. Well, maybe I should say "awful lot", since it sure makes me happy when they do. Even if they aren't sitting beside each other, they are right across from each other, and then we end up with moments like the Public Declaration of Love and in the finale we also saw Nick staring right at Greggo.

Yessss, they do sit either next to each other or opposite each other, but then once again, they sit in their respective Ships. Public declaration of love, is sooo subtextual, lets put it this way, as we all know Greg is bisexual, Nick's gay.... Maybe that moment was also a love triangle thingie of sorts... Or that Sara was their public beard...

But what I really love about that episode (and it's a great episode!) is that Nick reacts to the questions of how the fortune gets into the cookie by touching Greg:

^-^ It really is true. Nick can't keep his hands off Greg, and we have the screen caps to prove it! Not like I have any, mind, but everyone else does. xD Like when Greg passed his proficiency test ... Nick just couldn't keep his hands off Greg. At all. Even when the girls were hugging him.
Ahh ... gotta love the touchy-feely Texan cowboy.

Nick loves to touch Greg, he can't get enough of him.... I need to see that bit again... Thanks for the pictures...

 

[seabird]

You guys have been busy! :thumbsup:

I've always thought that ,in "Play With Fire", some scenes were cut...Maybe they didn't want The Love become too obvious and , after three seasons of great N/G subtext, Nick visiting Greg in the hospital would have made it (almost) canon. I also love that scene from "Inside The Box" when, after the explosion, Nick and Greg are sitting right next to each other and Nick, once again, can't keep his hands of his Greggo...:lol:

Have you read the new spoilers for 9x03? Read the last paragraph. Please tell me they aren't giving Nick a new girlfriend (and I'm not talking about the waitress):

http://www.csifiles.com/news/060608_01.shtml

I know that they aren't giving us something THIS on the show... :devil:

But at least, I hope they keep the wonderful subtext and please, don't give the boys a girlfriend!!

Because there are some things that can't be hidden. Not even behind a beard...

 

[candygirl1uk]

Seabird. Once again you have came up with the goods, even thought I posted the pics before lol...

That look well kinda says it all really that Nick Stokes is very much in love with one Greg Sanders....TPTB can only do so much, but I say thanks to Eric Szmanda and George Eads for giving us love fans the subtextual moments over the course of eight years.

Thanks for the cap of Art imitating life... Life is also imitating art.:guffaw:

 

[QOTU]

Hey guys! I'm here! Sorry I've been gone for so long. But I've been working hard on that story, which has taken waaaayyyy too long. But, it's, I think, going to be my longest one shot yet. I'm almost done with it. I just didn't want anything to influence it more than your previous ideas already had. You know? I'm seriously trying not to steal ideas from people. lol. I'm hoping to have it done this weekend. But we'll see.

BTW, does anyone know Warrick's birthdate? I think before CBS came out with the wiki they had files on each character that listed this info cause I've got Greg's bday on my calendar. But he was the only one I cared about back then. Stupid me... lol.

Anyway, I have a lot of catching up to do on here, I see. But from what I've already read on this page, I never really thought about Nick's yelling at Sara as being a reaction to what happened to Greg. I was worried about that, because other than that, it doesn't seem like he has much of a reaction at all.

However, speaking for Greg in GD, I just rewatched it last week, and the first time they see Nick on the computer screen, check their reactions. Greg is so far to the left he's almost off screen, but he flinches, or something. I can't remember exactly what, but it was a heck of a lot more than he did the rest of the ep. It said a lot. You just have to look for it. And sadly, no, I don't have screen caps of it. Wish I did though.

Well, that's it for me. Time for laundry and some editing. The faster I edit, the sooner you get to read this insanely long fic.
Oh yeah, and I have no clue where Twins is. They've dropped from being the top contributer on the wiki though. I just noticed that in the weekly update... wonder what's going on? Hope everything's cool. Well, peace, out, and long live The Love!

 

[bubbles]

Oh there is no doubt in my mind at least that Warrick at least privately has had his suspicions about his friend for quiet some time. Saying it publically, now thats a different kettle of fish... Yeah I agree with you there, rememeber the banter Warrick and Nick had in one episode, I cant remember what it was called now, but I DO remember Warrick acting all feminine and saying something about loving him... Maybe I'm mixing up the two episodes who knows!!! Someone help me out here?

Warrick, however, does have a big time problem with Nick being with Greg. Warrick is not a silly man, infact, he is very street wise and smart in many ways.... Maybe he has tried (and failed) to set Nick up with a friend of a friend, so to speak.. Who knows...

I think that, without a doubt Warrick has/had his suspicions about Nick, although I personally don't think he would have approached and talked to him about it straight out, but maybe discuss girls and realise Nick was a bit different than a straight guy would be talking about girls. And I agree that I can see him trying and failing to set Nick up with a friend of a friend, maybe on a couple of occasions, and then thinking, hmm. And the deal with the waitress was kinda like a last resort 'i'm not going to try set him up again after this' kinda thing.

Seabird. Once again you have came up with the goods, even thought I posted the pics before lol...

That look well kinda says it all really that Nick Stokes is very much in love with one Greg Sanders....TPTB can only do so much, but I say thanks to Eric Szmanda and George Eads for giving us love fans the subtextual moments over the course of eight years.

Thanks for the cap of Art imitating life... Life is also imitating art.:guffaw:

I do love those pics from the finale, the looks are just wow... I also agree that TPTB can only do so much, and what the actors give us makes it so much more, George and Eric have got to know Nick and Greg are in love. And the subtext does agree with this. And I hope we'll get much more in season 9.

BTW, does anyone know Warrick's birthdate? I think before CBS came out with the wiki they had files on each character that listed this info cause I've got Greg's bday on my calendar. But he was the only one I cared about back then. Stupid me... lol.



However, speaking for Greg in GD, I just rewatched it last week, and the first time they see Nick on the computer screen, check their reactions. Greg is so far to the left he's almost off screen, but he flinches, or something. I can't remember exactly what, but it was a heck of a lot more than he did the rest of the ep. It said a lot. You just have to look for it. And sadly, no, I don't have screen caps of it. Wish I did though.

I think someone posted all of the character and actors birthdates somewhere on here, I remember looking at it, it may be on the season 9 spoiler thread ( possibly? )

I think the happenings of GD were just too much for Greg, and he kind of shut down, and couldn't really take in and comprehend what was actually happening to the man he loves.

 

[CSIElizabeth]

Hey guys! I'm here! Sorry I've been gone for so long. But I've been working hard on that story, which has taken waaaayyyy too long. But, it's, I think, going to be my longest one shot yet. I'm almost done with it. I just didn't want anything to influence it more than your previous ideas already had. You know? I'm seriously trying not to steal ideas from people. lol. I'm hoping to have it done this weekend. But we'll see.

BTW, does anyone know Warrick's birthdate? I think before CBS came out with the wiki they had files on each character that listed this info cause I've got Greg's bday on my calendar. But he was the only one I cared about back then. Stupid me... lol.

Anyway, I have a lot of catching up to do on here, I see. But from what I've already read on this page, I never really thought about Nick's yelling at Sara as being a reaction to what happened to Greg. I was worried about that, because other than that, it doesn't seem like he has much of a reaction at all.

However, speaking for Greg in GD, I just rewatched it last week, and the first time they see Nick on the computer screen, check their reactions. Greg is so far to the left he's almost off screen, but he flinches, or something. I can't remember exactly what, but it was a heck of a lot more than he did the rest of the ep. It said a lot. You just have to look for it. And sadly, no, I don't have screen caps of it. Wish I did though.

Well, that's it for me. Time for laundry and some editing. The faster I edit, the sooner you get to read this insanely long fic.
Oh yeah, and I have no clue where Twins is. They've dropped from being the top contributer on the wiki though. I just noticed that in the weekly update... wonder what's going on? Hope everything's cool. Well, peace, out, and long live The Love!

Hi there! I'm looking forward to your one shot! It's going to make me cry, isn't it? lol I can't wait! I never really thought about Nick yelling at Sara was about Greg. Wasn't he upset because she was being wreckless for her own safety? I don't remember the interaction between them, but I don't think Greg was part of it, unfortunately.

I barely remember seeing Greg's reaction in GD and it ticks me off they didn't show him. And even when they did, Catherine was the main focus. Or at least I think she was. Hmm.

BTW twins1729 are all right. They are on the Luke/Noah (As The World Turns) wiki and that has pretty much taken over their lives at the moment lol. I'm over at the wiki all the time lurking so I know they are there. oh I am so dead meat when they come and read this. Hide me!

Oh! I forgot! Go to the spoilers thread for season 9 and you'll find Warrick's b-day. However, if you wish to remain spoiler free, I'll go get it for you. It's October 10, 1971. Or 1970, whichever year I'm not sure which is accurate.

 

[Sara's Girl]

I think that, without a doubt Warrick has/had his suspicions about Nick, although I personally don't think he would have approached and talked to him about it straight out, but maybe discuss girls and realise Nick was a bit different than a straight guy would be talking about girls. And I agree that I can see him trying and failing to set Nick up with a friend of a friend, maybe on a couple of occasions, and then thinking, hmm. And the deal with the waitress was kinda like a last resort 'i'm not going to try set him up again after this' kinda thing.

I think Warrick knows/knew (knew? ) too, certainly by S6 or S7, think he would have suspected for a while and I could imagine him poking fun at Nicky a little bit at the start when Greg was still in the lab, making little comments about how Nick likes to hang around the lab a lot, but not wanting to come out and say anything direct like 'So, erm, you like Greg, Nick?'

I also think he and Catherine would discuss it when they were on their own, because she is naturally nosy about other people's relationships too. I wonder if the waitress suggestion was his attempt to get a rise out of Nick, let him know he knew and hope he might say something. Maybe. On the other hand I like the idea that by S8 they are open with people like Warrick and Catherine, and the waitress thing is his idea of a joke. Who knows, who knows.

I think the happenings of GD were just too much for Greg, and he kind of shut down, and couldn't really take in and comprehend what was actually happening to the man he loves.

Yep this is what I always feel about GD too. I think everyone reacts differently to massive trauma like that and not everyone breaks down and cries and screams and stuff, some people just shut down and seem devoid of emotion but they feel it. Like the very wise Lady Heather says in Slaves of Las Vegas:

"What you see and what I feel are two different things"

That said, I have read some great fics that talk about how Greg reacted when he was away from everyone else, like allowing himself to lose control a little when he was, say, alone in the bathroom or something.

QOTU I can't wait to read your new fic, though I'm also thinking it's going to make me cry. I know what you mean about not wanting to seem like you're stealing ideas...I hate it when I write something then find a similar moment in someone else's work because I hate to think they would think I had copied from them, if that makes sense. That said, I suppose nothing in the world can be truly original, we can only try!

Nat x

 

[my_last_chance]

Wow. So I feel as if I haven't posted in a long time, and I'm going to try to remember what everyone's been talking about ...
Re Warrick Knowing About Nick: I ... I'm still on the fence about this one. I'd like to think that Nick would have told him, but I just have no clue. Warrick's a smart guy, he would have figured it out eventually. I like the idea of Warrick using the waitress as a way to try to get Nick to admit it, that seems like something he'd do. I could kind of see a scene between Nick and Warrick at the hospital ... if Warrick was still alive. Maybe Nick's just holding his best friend's hand and telling him it's going to be okay, even though he knows Warrick's dying. Warrick's last few words are, "After this you better come out to the team, Nick. And if you and Greg adopt, name him after me." He's just kidding, but he wants to make Nick feel better. I dunno ... my sad side is kind of gone today. I'm in a more light-hearted mood, and it's kind of hard to write sad scenarios when you've been laughing at So You Think You Can Dance.
Re Greg in GD:

"What you see and what I feel are two different things"

Wow. That quote's amazing, and I wouldn't expect any less from Lady Heather. She knows people, that's for sure. That does seem to sum up Greg's reaction ... or lack of. He just couldn't react. It's something that feels like a huge slap in the face and it leaves you thinking, "What just happened ...?"
On another note, Greggbsessed and I were watching Empty Eyes today and it's the episode where Greg walks in to the showgirls' house and says to Nick, "Have you been upstairs yet?" and Nick just gives him that look. The subtext is absolutely amazing. So much expression ... and communicating without talking is something people can do when they know each other really well. It's a great moment.