Mac/Stella #13 -Office sex just waiting to happen...

[shopping_luva91]

Thanks for the vid Lori! They're so great

Yay Jimenez we have the same birthday!

 

[MacsLady]

Ghawazee, I love your explanation for why Stella is tough, and how she trusts Mac. But still I think both of them need to realize she's not as tough as they both think - Mac should have realized how shaken up and scared she was by what happened last week, and Stella should stop trying to cope with big problems on her own, I know she grew up having to do that, but now she has Mac and she knows she can trust him. This is why I am so confused by this season. In Comes Around, as you said, Stella said there is no one she trusts more 'professionally or personally' than Mac (your English is fine, btw!)

Spoiler: and then later this season....

she is keeping some big secret from him? After she went to him with the AIDS thing in s3, and with being stalked too?

:wtf: And Mac, who has always trusted Stella the most is

Spoiler: in the next ep

questioning whose side she's on? Okay, he might just be saying it in anger, but still -:wtf:

And after the way he ran to her place in All Access, suddenly it's just 'she's tough' - well, yeah, he should say that to other people but still he should have shown more concern for her in private. Stella doesn't like being 'fussed over' but we know she appreciates it when Mac makes sure she is okay, and that more important, she trusts him enough to let him know when she's not okay. EP are being WEP now - Weird Evil People- with Mac and Stella this season. They were weird with Danny throughout the whole D/L thing from s3 onwards (he wasn't like our old Danny around Lindsay that year, IMO) and now they seem to be messing with Mac and Stella too. :scream: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. But we did get some good Danny stuff in s3 and in s4 (especially with Don) so hopefully they will stop this messing around with M/S soon, or at least they will show it actually has a point, and their relationship will become even deeper.

But like I said before, I think it is EP who are to blame for Mac and Stella's behaviour, not Mac and Stella. Bad, bad, bad EP. Those lions look very hungry...

I forgot about that 'My name is Taylor' line from 4x05. It's great.

Thanks for the vid Lori, they're so cute. Just like a family, like the CSI team.

 

[Ghawazee]

Spoiler: s5

This is why I am so confused by this season. In Comes Around, as you said, Stella said there is no one she trusts more 'professionally or personally' than Mac (your English is fine, btw!)
she is keeping some big secret from him? After she went to him with the AIDS thing in s3, and with being stalked too?
:wtf: And Mac, who has always trusted Stella the most is
questioning whose side she's on? Okay, he might just be saying it in anger, but still -:wtf:

Even when i have watched only 1 1/2 episodes from this season let me tell you i can tell when a situation is forced and OCC. Maybe TPTB think is interesting to keep them apart after so many years of being the best friends in the world but still their acts and behaviours and words are against the nature. And despite how funny this could be for Melina and Gary they seem to be surprised as well (according to the clips i have seen recently). Is that or something happened between them that we couldn't see it because they seem to be more envolve with each other despite of the harsh words

Who knows? TPTB must give me a good explanation after this nonsense:scream:


hugs a lot (call me Debbie as everyone else, dear)

Debbie

ps: Where the heck is Asprine? ASPRINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Mac is kissing Stella, ASPRINEEEEEEEE:lol:

 

[MacsLady]

Spoiler: s5

This is why I am so confused by this season. In Comes Around, as you said, Stella said there is no one she trusts more 'professionally or personally' than Mac (your English is fine, btw!)
she is keeping some big secret from him? After she went to him with the AIDS thing in s3, and with being stalked too?
:wtf: And Mac, who has always trusted Stella the most is
questioning whose side she's on? Okay, he might just be saying it in anger, but still -:wtf:

Even when i have watched only 1 1/2 episodes from this season let me tell you i can tell when a situation is forced and OCC. Maybe TPTB think is interesting to keep them apart after so many years of being the best friends in the world but still their acts and behavious and words are against the nature. And despite how funny this could be for Melina and Gary they seem to be surprised as well (according to the clips i have seen recently). Is that or somethign happened between them that we couldn't see it because they seem to be more envolve with each other despite of the harsh words

Who knows? TPTB must gibe me a good explanation after this nonsense:scream:


hugs a lot (call me Debbie as everyone else, dear)

Debbie

Ok, Debbie. I agree with you that maybe EP are trying to show a 'split' in Mac/Stella's relationship. I also agree that the way they are doing it is OOC for both characters. I just hope that this nonsense doesn't last all season. But it is weird - even before what is coming next week, Mac and Stella have not been the same way with one another - Stella didn't seem as concerned about Mac in Veritas as she was in Hostage (what happened to 'worried sick'?) and his reaction to her getting almost killed last week was weird and OOC after previous episodes.
Well, EP had better be planning something good after all this.
I can't see Gary and Melina wanting this nonsense to go on all season either, and Gary is a producer so maybe EP will listen to him? But even if this storyline is fun for M & G for a while, I don't think they'd want to do it all season, as they are so close and also I am sure both have commented on how much they like the closeness of Mac and Stella's relationship - I know Melina talked about them in the CSI NY magazine.

 

[shopping_luva91]

I just think there's absolutely no logic to what they're doing with Mac and Stell right now, so I'm gonna go all superstitious on you all and blame it on the fact that we're on thread #13. 13 is an unlucky number after all. I think that by the time we get to the next thread ... okay no because you guys post really fast, but at some point during the next thread, things will start being okay again. Maybe they're just doing this to try and keep everyone guessing, even though we all know they'll be together in the end. Okay. I'm sorry if that was confusing, but it's my theory and I'm sticking to it :lol:

Oh and sorry for the delayed reaction, but I haven't actually seen the bit where Adam said his dad was a bully. What happened? Who'd he say it to? how'd they react?

Take care everyone! xx

p.s. Asprine! Come back! We miss you!

 

[shell_kikii]

MacsLady,

I can't see Gary and Melina wanting this nonsense to go on all season either, and Gary is a producer so maybe EP will listen to him?

I read in some place (maybe the spoiler thread), somesone posted Gary said Mac must have a second thought before he developes a romance with Stella. I wondered how long he would be reaching the verdict.

p.s. Thank you for your reveiw. (I've wrote this in the fanfic thread, just in case you don't go back there.)

shopping_luva91,

Oh and sorry for the delayed reaction, but I haven't actually seen the bit where Adam said his dad was a bully. What happened? Who'd he say it to? how'd they react?

It was on 315 'some buried bones' when Stella, Danny and Adam watched the surveillance from the shop. Adam said he understood the suspect's reaction to the other customers because his own father was a bully. They didn't continue on the subject. I think both Stella and Danny felt sorry for Adam and didn't want to bring back his bad memory.

 

[karu_mila]

Who knows? TPTB must gibe me a good explanation after this nonsense:scream:

Spoiler: spoiler

Mac and Stella having a fight like the one in the promos is ridiculous... they're both better than that, but TPTB have a reputation for blowing things out of proportion in promos, so we might not have too much to worry about. *crosses fingers before poking TPTB* At least we don't have to wait long to see the episode...

 

[Lori K.]

Well now: Its time to go to ASPRINES house and find out where she has been...(knocks on door) Asprine WHERE are YOU??

I just got done watching stuck on you. Thank heaven for DVDS and past eppies. I cant believe the difference in Macs demeanor and how happy and nice he is to everyone and Yes mostly Stella! He teases her for having to leave the party and go to work leaving her date behind. He almost seems abit "Gleeful" about it , telling her he has been there (having to interupt his plans) and he also has her kit and a change of clothes on the way! He is so distant these days the only thing I can figure out is he is really not sure how to handle the feelings he has for her and is just "Up tight" all the time or he just doesnt care. It is becoming a BIG dissappointment watching week after week and wasting our time hoping for a little something. He insults her by not caring about her concern for her assailant. Just because "HER" dumped him he takes it out on Stella and does not show concern for Stella . I guess he ran out of compassion over "HER" stupid bump on the head talk about "over kill"

 

[Ghawazee]

MacsLady (G )-->

But it is weird - even before what is coming next week, Mac and Stella have not been the same way with one another - Stella didn't seem as concerned about Mac in Veritas as she was in Hostage (what happened to 'worried sick'?) and his reaction to her getting almost killed last week was weird and OOC after previous episodes.
Well, EP had better be planning something good after all this.

That's exactly what i don't understand. If they don't want to put Mac and Stella together why they gave us not just ONE but 5 episodes in a queue where the closeness was remarked:cardie: I mean if they want to please Smacked family with just one eppy would have been ok. But when they decided to gives us 5 episodes they were suggesting something else. Even some non shippers noticed their relationship changed in the last part of Season 4. What they are doing now is writing a crazy storyline, forced, unnatural that it only could be believed by them


Kikii-->

I read in some place (maybe the spoiler thread), somesone posted Gary said Mac must have a second thought before he developes a romance with Stella. I wondered how long he would be reaching the verdict.

If it depends on TPTB it will happen in Season 35:lol::lol:. I think someone mentioned an interview in Holland or something. But Gary is a co producer, he can't deny or admit something as important a permanent relationship He can't give hopes, he can't take them away either and we know Mac and Stella's relationsip will be forever. Many people like them! despite of we got almost nothing all these years and in special after The SHE Virus:lol:

Jenn->

Oh and sorry for the delayed reaction, but I haven't actually seen the bit where Adam said his dad was a bully. What happened? Who'd he say it to? how'd they react?

i think at some point that story will be brought back. And i trust it will be Stella and Mac who will listened him. Stella would be natural and Mac would be GREAT considering Adam runs in panick around Mac:lol:

Karu-->

Mac and Stella having a fight like the one in the promos is ridiculous... they're both better than that, but TPTB have a reputation for blowing things out of proportion in promos, so we might not have too much to worry about. *crosses fingers before poking TPTB* At least we don't have to wait long to see the episode

They had 2 big arguments in S1. (I remember Aiden's face in one of those occasions:lol: It was like "Mommy and Daddy are having a fight of proportions there:lol:" ). It is always interesting the sparks between them. What i don't like at all it's the lack of trust between them. That never hapened before Besides we know for sure

Spoiler: 5.11

this miscommunication will last at least several episodes until 5.11

Lori-->

He is so distant these days the only thing I can figure out is he is really not sure how to handle the feelings he has for her and is just "Up tight" all the time or he just doesnt care. It is becoming a BIG dissappointment watching week after week and wasting our time hoping for a little something. He insults her by not caring about her concern for her assailant

I was wondering why he changed. My take is

a) Writers are so horrid as they seem to be
b) They are showing something changed between them. Last episodes of season 4 was for good. Now it's all the contrary. I have a small hope they are living together (as impossible as it seems now) and this tension is related to that fact. They cannot manage their feelings, they cannot manage "living together"

c) Wrong all above. Writers don't have nothing to do that writing them OOC:wtf:

He insults her by not caring about her concern for her assailant. Just because "HER" dumped him he takes it out on Stella and does not show concern for Stella . I guess he ran out of compassion over "HER" stupid bump on the head talk about "over kill"

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw: I miss any single day you don't talk about SHE:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw: I want Mac regretting he has been so indifferent to her well being. Axel's idea was great. Maybe if Stella is kidnapped would be the answer to our prayers


Hugs to all Debbie

ps: I would like to know where are Gio, Anj,Sheriinh, Lilou, Steph, etc, etc, etc Half family is away! The Family must be back And Asprine is still MIA

 

[shell_kikii]

Hi Debbie,

If it depends on TPTB it will happen in Season 35:lol::lol:.

Hope I still alive when there is a season 35. I don't know I'll watch the show any more if there is no progress in this season.

 

[MacsLady]

I don't think Mac's indifference to Stella has to do with P. dumping him, because she dumped him in 4x 04, and he actually seemed to get closer to Stella after that. And I want to point out again that Stella was not 'indifferent' to Mac in Veritas, but still she wasn't as concerned as I expected her to be, and, furthermore, she didn't tell him about what happened with Joe/Ethan, even a few episodes later, she still hasn't told him (she waited to tell him about the AIDS scare, but she did tell him). And Mac's indifference to her is just unbelivable - he showed concern for her even in s2 and s3, when they had been dating other people. I am wondering whether Mac's indifference/withdrawal from Stella is perhaps something to do with what happened with him and Joe? He could have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder - some of the symptoms of this are

• avoiding thoughts, feelings, or conversations associated with the trauma - Stella almost got killed in the tunnel, he almost got killed by Joe. Stella was there throughout the whole Joe thing.
• avoiding activities, places, or people that remind you of the trauma - Stella may remind him of the trauma, especially when she is danger.
• Feeling detached or estranged from other people
• Feeling emotionally numb especially towards loved ones

That describes Mac's behaviour as well. It could easily explain his behaviour to Stella, and why it is so OOC for him. Also, Stella may have it too after the incident both with Joe and with the Greek Man - so she would be displaying those symptoms to - towards Mac. TPTB did say something about Mac not immeadiately showing any emotional trauma from what happens with Joe, which could imply they meant something would happen later. Another symptom of PTSD is irritability or outbursts of anger, both of which Mac and Stella will show according to the promo. And people who have high stress levels in their everyday life, or who have 'previous traumatic experiences, especially in early life' are more prone to PTSD. Well, Mac has 9/11 (terrorist attacks can cause PTSD) and the Marines (combat veterans are particularly vulnerable to PTSD from wars they have fought in etc), 333,(kidnap victims also get PTSD) what happened in the s2 finale and in Snow Day, his father's death, and as me and Debbie have speculated, possibly his mother's death when he was very young. Stella grew up in orphanages and foster homes and of course has had lots of bad things happen to her more recently - Frankie (victims of violent assault often suffer PTSD)/AIDS scare/ Snow Day/Fire/Joe/Greek Man. And both work in a high-stress job.

It's all just speculation, of course, but it makes sense IMO and it could be what EP are doing. PTSD can make people act OOC.

Info about PTSD I got from this site - http://www.helpguide.org/mental/post_traumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_treatment.htm
-if you are interested. If you google 'PTSD symptoms' it brings up a lot of stuff.

 

[giovinazzo<3]

*runs in here* im here been busy i got work week at my school (working in a toystore:lol: its very fun to work there:lol:) plus my teacher are going all bossy on us, it's annoying:shifty: BUT Hi Smacked Family *hugs to ya all* back to SMACKed

originally posted by AnJella
I agree with you gio. Their relationship in season 1 was unique. Back then I think they didn't love-love each other but as close friends. Stella knew that Mac was deeply hurt after 911 and she wouldn't afford hurting him by screwing up things with their relationship. Maybe she did feel that something could change ...but she didn't dare to let it happen since she cared too much for Mac...
oh btw. I just posted my 2nd shippervid..look for it in the video thread

AnJ--- yeah i also think that they wasn't in love-love in each other, but just very close friends... And i tried to watch the shippervid but i couldn't see it (something about, that i was in the wrong county or something..) i really wanted to see it!..

But definitely she will be Taylor any time soon

Debbie, so so sooo right She will be a Taylor anytime soon

originally posted by MacsLady
Ok, Debbie. I agree with you that maybe EP are trying to show a 'split' in Mac/Stella's relationship. I also agree that the way they are doing it is OOC for both characters. I just hope that this nonsense doesn't last all season.

i also do not hope that this thing the tptb are doing with Mac and Stella's relationship isn't gonna last all season.. IF this nonsense are gonna last all season, the producers and writers got all s6 to make us happy again!..

And about ASPRINE, maybe she have been abducted by Aliens?? Were are you ASPRINE??

 

[CSI_Kat]

*runs in* Please remember to use spoiler boxes for all things including promo info for the upcoming episode. People do consider things like that spoilers. Thanks!!! *runs out*

 

[MacsLady]

I just re-watched American Dreamers. I love the friendship and closeness between Mac and Stella in that episode, especially in the final scene where she makes him smile and come out to Sullivans and loosens his tie. Stella is the only one who could make Mac light up like that, and who he would let touch him that way back in the early days. And in the beginning, she tells some bad joke about the skeleton (i think) to try to make him smile.
And when they go to Port Authority bus terminal, there is this scene-

Love how is putting his arm behind her to protect her. He literally 'has her back':adore:

Only thing I don't like about American Dreamers is the blue lighting.

Pic from pastmyshoulder.

 

[lilou]

I'm Ok with all you say. Mac and Stella reaction in season 5 are unbelievable. Stella is worried sick in last episode of season 4 but not really in season 5. And mac say only are you OK. In season 3 and 2 they was more concern while they had boyfriend and Girlfriend. but it's mybe the point. Be concern about each other without someone else in his(her) life may be dangerous. And I sure if they are different it's because somethink change.
May be Mac feel that it's different between and he scare to show it so he keep his distance. same for Stella.
Or may be they are more concern but we don't see it in the show. Look D/L who had imgine in hostage hat D and L are together again and in love. All peolple think they was in crise again. But the writer say that they baby had do in Taxi.

For me there are two explanation for Mac and Stella attitude.
-Writer don't see us all...
-Or Mac and Stella must be face of their new feeling and tense and keep their distance for now because they don't really understand and accept the changement.