Before things really get out of hand, I want to point out (as a reminder and for those who are new) something that Tally posted (awhile back) a calm, gentle reminder "Please focus on the topic of this thread. If there is a need to discourse at length on the attributes of vegetarianism then please take this particular discussion to the Miscellaneous forum." Now normally we do not mind an occassional discussion here about being a vegetarian, etc or even the fact that JF/SS influenced you, this is brought up now so that it doesn't get out of hand, there are a couple threads in MISC specifically on this subject. As stated limited discussion here is fine, but full discussion should be diverted to MISC. Thank you.