Horatio & Yelina Thread #4 ~The Romantic Real Deal~

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H/Y is as remote from a "'ship" (ugh! the intrinsic vulgarity of this label and its appalling derivatives, offends me down to a cellular level) as Yahooism is from common sense. Unfortunately, there is obvious confusion between "canon" and "fanon". Worst yet, fanatical refusal to acknowledge the obvious and the factual.
Tally, you rock! :D For me, the H/Y relationship is a tangible, subtle, frustrating, heartbreaking, wonderfully poignant 'romance' in the truest sense of the word. 'Ship' just doesn't do it justice I'm afraid. ;) It warms my heart a great deal.

Geni, I'm very glad that the H/Y love has struck a chord with you. Ann D and her crazy decisions might have derailed us for awhile, but hopefully, we'll soon be back on track.

Thanks Hummer for the great news about HnM. I'm very much looking forward to her return. It could be very good timing! :)
 
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Ah yes, Yahooism! The thorn in the side of most online forums, but this thread rocks my socks too! :D It is always a great place to visit for a dose of the real world, in the sense that logic, common sense and genuine understanding of the characters stands out a mile.

I also consider H/Y a real romance. I still believe that Ann D sees it that way too, even if her decision to write Yelina off was unforgiveable and downright daft. It may well have helped our cause in a bizarre way though, as previously mentioned. :)
 
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Indeed Swan, this thread is a very pleasant refuge for many of us who post here. ;)

Well, you would have thought that as it was Ann D who introduced Yelina to the show in the first place, she should, by all intents and purposes, completely advocate this romance. Then, along came Season 4.

We shall see what her intentions are soon enough I guess, but the Miami writers seem to change their minds like the wind changes direction. Let's hope the quality returns for S5.
 
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I just wrote the longest post I have ever written for anything and the computer deleted it. Grr. Alright, lets see if i can repeat it.

I haven't been here for a very long time, and when I return, you present me with brand spanking new pics of Horatio and Yelina! YAY!! Yelina looks BEAUTIFUL in her white dress. And I love the captions on the one where Horatio is looking at us. I got to agree with the comment ‘BUSTED!’

Okay, I did mention Raymond, but I'll condense it for this one. He is Public Enemy Number one. I can't stand him. He should be shot. No, being shot is too good for him. He should have things too vulgar and painful to be mentioned here done to him.

This comes out of the fact that at the End of 10-7, which I just watched for the second time, he gives H this. . .look, when he's hugging Yelina that makes me so mad! And H is just standing there acting like his heart isn't being ripped out, burned, and it's smoking pieces fed to him. The only place you can really see his pain is his eyes. His eyes show that he is shattering from his heart outward. And then he puts his sunglasses on, and its that classic ‘I’m hiding my pain’ thing.

Also note, that when Y looks at H, she smiles, or at least, tries to smile, despite the fact her eyes show much the same pain as H’s. When she looks at R, she looks like she’s trying to muster up a smile for the father of her child, but she just. . .can’t. . .quite. . .do it. Her hug with Ray is much more forced than the one with H. And Raymond looks at H and Y when they hug and then turns away, as though he is trying not to see this obvious love between these two. He’s denying the fact his wife would be happier with his brother than with him. And H looks at him and he looks almost worried that Ray might notice something. *shakes head helplessly*

Then, at the end of the ep when Ray is turning to go into the plane and H points at him, that is one hell of a warning. (Forgive my language) He’s telling Ray ‘If you hurt her, I will kick your ass.’

Ray really needs that asskicking of redheaded proportions. H needs to severely kick his ass before he dies. If he dies. This would be his third ‘death,’ after all. I’m beginning to wonder if this is a Joss Whedon show!

Ok, about ‘What’s left of me,’ I heard that on the radio one time when I was hanging out with a friend of mine, but her mom changed it before I heard much more than the first verse, but it still made me look up and go ‘Hey, that sounds like Hoyay!’(forgive my use of the term.) I have since saved it on my computer and listen to it all the time. The lines shown here:

Now I’m broken
And I’m faded,
I’m half the man I thought I would be
But you can have what’s left of me.

Have always made me think of S4 H. Who is not the real H. And also the lines

Take what’s left
Of this man
Make me whole
Once again.

Make me think of them, because H is just not H without Yelina around. He’s missing something when she’s gone. And while we’re on the subject of Hoyay songs, lets see if I have any others I’d like to comment on.

Somebody’s mentioned ‘Crawling back to you’ by the Backstreet boys, haven’t they? Umm, okay, now that I’ve said that I can’t remember what I was going to say about it. Hmm, how about ‘The Long One’ by Josh Gracin? Umm, I don’t think I’ve seen it, so I’ll put the lyrics up.

There’s no holding you back
When you’re leaving
I’ll have to face it alone
Until tomorrow
And as you’re fading away
I know
It’s a matter of hours ‘til the tears begin
Guess I’ll turn out the lights
And I’ll settle in.

Chorus
For the long one
For the restless night
As your memory plays
With no end in sight
It’s a strong one
And it holds on tight
Laying in the darkness
Praying for the morning sun
It’s a long one.

I’ve been through this before
It wasn’t easy and
I think I’m ready this time
I think I’m ready
I’ll lay down on this bed
And then
I’ll imagine your touch
And I’ll see your face
And the shadows will come
And surround this place

Chorus

These days go by so fast
I just turn around
And then they’re gone
And when the nighttime comes it’s
Long and lonely
Holding on and on

Chorus

And I really need to stop typing before this thing gets insanely long.

Gillian Sara Grissom
 
Re: Horatio & Yelina #4 ~'The Romantic Real Deal'~

Welcome back Gillian! Wow, that is quite some post, but most enjoyable! :D

I love your analysis of the ending to '10-7'. You summed up all their emotions perfectly. :) I also watched it again a couple of nights ago. Knowing that Yelina is returning to the show makes it less painful to watch somehow. I haven't watched it for months. Too heartbreaking! :(

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An asskicking of redheaded proportions indeed. :cool: Judging by the spoilers, I'm not sure just how much Ray Snr will feature, but the man certainly deserves one! I think his fate might well be determined before H gets to him.
 
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I can't watch '10-7' at the moment.
I agree it's really so heartbreaking.
I like the interaction between them since the first Yelina episode, but '10-7' turned me into a (slightly obsessed) H/Y shipper.
It's a little bit ironic, isn't it? :p

bad news. I checked the futon critic website and I saw no Yelina listed in this episode. crap! I posted info about this episode in the Miami spoiler thread. but who cares about it when we don't see yelina?
 
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Well, actually I'm not too disappointed about that (I read it a couple of days ago). It has always been quality not quantity with these two. ;) Also, I'm not expecting Yelina to feature much early in the season due to her commitment to her new show. So, no worries. We have got to remain positive if we can. :)

The writers are also keen to push the Natalia storyline this season too.
 
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uhhh don`t know from where to start after so many good posts :rolleyes:

first nice to see u Hummer and thanks for let us know that Sher will be here soon - this is great news :D

'Great Ship Debate - Miami' thread ?! sorry for this silly question, but where i must look at..?!

inge i too feel terrify that in S05E02 we don`t have Y in the cast credits, but all this news are only spoilers right ?! nothing is not sure to the end, all the new info for S5 is so complex. last week i have read in some web sides that Y will be in second epi ... and now i don`t know to what/who i must believe...

one thought don`t leave me alone. all this S5 promo pics are like puzzel and keep wonder did this two pics walk together... is this 'first' H/Y meeting or H go to tell that Ray Sn. dead ?! what u guys think H and Y have in theirs minds ?!

credit : www.csimiamionline.com
 
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Awwwwww thanks Lucy that pic rocks!!!!! but kinda upset me because H was sad a little bit :)
 
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Pusher, I think 'Futon Critic' is a very reliable source and it's final that Yelina is not in the second episode. Lucy is right, it's quality and not quantity but I thought I read somewhere that the first two episodes are connected. maybe I read wrong.
BTW, the great ship debate thread is here. :D
 
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You're welcome re the pic. :)

Originally, Sofia was definitely supposed to be in two episodes. The writers could have intended that the events in Rio would occur over two episodes, but maybe they've decided on condensing things into the one episode. I do have some good news....

by the end of the episode 'Rio', Horatio, Yelina and Ray Jnr will be back in Miami. Yelina decides to stay in Miami after they find out Raymond is dead.

Please regard this like any other spoiler though ie. it is not set in stone until we see it! ;)
 
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Well, I'm happy that she'll be in at least one episode. Although, you would think they'd have 'Rio' span for more than one episode, but I can understand how they want to get things back to Miami.

As for the 'spoiler', that's some good news for sure! If that happens at least. ;)
 
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I'm baaaack!

Wow, a nice big 'new' thread. I love what you guys have done with the place. :) This is my first time signing on for awhile so if I act a little murky we can all blame it on that absent thing.

Before I go into what you guys have been discussing, I want to thank everyone for all the letters you've sent over the last 2-3 months and I enjoyed every single one. All of you have been heavenly and I intend to play 'catch up' with all of you. You lot are wonderful! *huggles*

Uh-hmm, let's see. This place has been rocking. I went back a couple of pages and nearly fell out of my chair with those lovely promo pics, the spoilers and everything else. Hopefully, our tireless H/Y flag flying will pay off and tptb can get ahold of themselves. S5 looks promising...even though I'm far from throwing caution to the wind. Still, it looks like I made good time in getting back. :D
 
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Sherry!!! :D :D :D

It is absolutely wonderful to see you back. We have missed you heaps, but have kept your place here warm the whole time. ;)

You couldn't have timed it better for sure. I still can't quite believe you're back! *lots of huggles*
I went back a couple of pages and nearly fell out of my chair with those lovely promo pics, the spoilers and everything else. Hopefully, our tireless H/Y flag flying will pay off and tptb can get ahold of themselves.
I couldn't wait for you to see them. I will send a pm tomorrow, but I really must go to bed now. I just had to post something when I saw your name appear! :)
 
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