Re: Horatio & Yelina #6 - A Sense of Belonging - So Say We A
come on, H know his bro.... he know that Ray was 'dirt'...
I agree with that. I'm not saying that standing there (or any other time for that matter), Horatio was unaware of what his brother had done or even ignoring it. But one thing that Horatio has reiterated over and over again up until the whole Marisol fiasco was that imperfect people aren't deserving of cruelty. When the man in "Hurricane Anthony" dies, Horatio tells the brother-in-law that they will remember the man as a hero who tried to protect his home. When Horatio comforts Natalia in season 5, he tells her that you focus on the good in the person, not the bad.
No one who has ever watched the show could say that Ray Sr. was perfect. Clearly he's not, but I don't think that's the overriding factor for Horatio here. In the end, his imperfect, idiotic brother is DEAD. And when you're talking about someone who grew up in the same home with you, and is one of the few people who can understand what that was like, I really don't think Ray's issues are the
first thing that come to mind when you're looking at the details of how he was murdered.
I said that it was regret over his brother's death, but also regret over Horatio feeling as though he didn't do enough. "What if" is a dangerous proposition, and perhaps he did think about those things while holding the ring, but I'd think that "what if I had done this or said this" would come miles before "what if I had been the one to approach Yelina first."
The ring has to be significant in this scene. Otherwise, we might as well have just had a camera shot of the bullets.
Well, we probably wouldn't have had another shot of the bullets because that had already been shown earlier. It's what he's staring at when Valera interrupts him. Generally speaking, Miami only shows the same thing twice if they're going to expand on it somehow. In this case, I don't think they could have said anymore with the bullets.
Of course, the ring aren't just another prop randomly chosen. I merely have a different interpretation of that than some of you. Which is good on a discussion board - not that I'm opposed to people agreeing with me on everything. :lol:
I don't think this kind of thought would be inappropriate as such. It's the kind of emotion that you can't just switch off because you're having guilt pangs. It's real and it's heartbreaking, but nevertheless, in a quiet moment, he could quite feasibly think these kind of thoughts.
I disagree with you on this for a few reasons. On the one hand, I think there's a big difference between something being natural and something being appropriate. At the end of season 2, the victim is a porn star. While it was natural for the officers to be
curious about her death, there was nothing appropriate about them all crowding around the body, taking pictures, etc. Even if you want to argue that Horatio has those particular thoughts, it would still be possible for those ideas to be inappropriate given the situation.
But more than that, I don't think Horatio would be thinking what might have been with Yelina at that moment. Because I think that wondering about how he could have saved his brother, questioning why his brother would go down such a horrible road, or even just thinking about his sibling is dead and how the entire family he grew up with is dead -- I think all of those things are far more powerful than his desire to be with Yelina. Perhaps not all the time, but when he's looking at the evidence and closing his brother's case? At that moment, I think Yelina only comes up in the context that she too was hurt by all of this.
But all of this is very interesting - how people, who have watched the same scene and like the same pairing, can have such vastly different points of view. It's nice that the CSI people want to get in touch with the fans, but what a wide variety of input they must get! Heck, before I found this board, everywhere I went, all the fans hated Yelina.
