Grissom&Sara #23 - Hot, Butt-Kicking, Chainsaw Wielding Love

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Billy is 53 and Jorja is 38. As for the characters, Sara is apparently about 35 and Grissom is 50.

ETA
DAMN! You beat me!!

But I would like to say this: I agree that people use it as an excuse not to like GSR. I mean, if anything, Grissom mentioned Sara as being young as a perk in Butterflied so even HE never used it as an excuse. It really bothers me that their age difference grosses people out. I mean, wow, they are both adults.
 
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desertwind said:
Where did this pregnancy gossip come from ? I don't think so...that would be so off the wall..and over the top.. they just let them out of the "romantic closet" .. not that I'd mind.. but we haven't even seen them "kiss" yet..one thing at a time

I think it was because first the look that Grissom gave Sara when she told him that the vic was ten weeks pregnant. And then, Sara wearing the mask when she was examining the car because no one really wears anything when they're in the lab (unless they wanted to do a throw back like in season four how they started to wear the little boots to the crime scenes) so that was like wtf is she wearing the mask? And then speculation was that she was wearing the mask because of the strong sense of the chemicals and can "harm the baby" if she is preganant. IMO she isnt pregnant and i dont think TPTB are going to let that happen and i really dont want to see that happen i just want a kiss damn it :p....
I can really see Alyssa's theory cause i actually thought of that too.
 
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greenplastic said:
But I would like to say this: I agree that people use it as an excuse not to like GSR. I mean, if anything, Grissom mentioned Sara as being young as a perk in Butterflied so even HE never used it as an excuse. It really bothers me that their age difference grosses people out. I mean, wow, they are both adults.
Yeah I agree with you and I actually don't think that is a facter cause Love have no age.. when you are in love you don't care about anything cause love is blind.. and without a doubt both are mature adults. and come on everybody see Hugh heffner with his young ladies and no one says anything :lol: obviously like all of you have said is a poor excuse that anti-gsr people use..
 
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I picked the third one. Not 'cause I can't ever see them as parents but because it just doesn't feel right for the show. I'd love the idea of GSR babies down the road...but I think it'd push the show into jump the shark territory if they did it onscreen.
 
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IN FACT, I should just do my thesis on Grissom and Sara and their complex relationship timeline over 7 years of CSI. Geek Love: An In-Depth Analysis of the (Bio)Chemistry Between Sara and Grissom. Hee.
Haha, you totally should. Jump in the deep end of geekdom with the rest of us and do it! :D

I learned how to use the spoiler code! Thanks theatresporter!
No worries, sunnydee :)

I don't think we're ever going to see a G/S wedding, and I actually prefer it that way. Shocker, I know, but if they do get married, I want it to be offcamera. I also, if they get pregnant, want the baby storyline to be off camera...
Agreed on both counts. Having babies and marriage come up in discussion is one thing, but having GSR vows in the delivery room (with Janice in the next bed?) is completely another.

i don't want any of this happening on CSI. maybe sometime later in S11 when there will be only Bobby, and that fat tech responsible for paper and handwriting left.
LOL, aww, be nice :p What a show that'd be...

Hi.. I want to know how old is sara and grissom? cause many people say that he is too old for her almost like her father and I dont think so.. he doesnt look that old and she doesn't look that young..Anyway..I also want to know how old is Jorja and Billy?
As Adz and greenplastic have already said, Grissom is 50 and Sara is 35. This age difference is clearly not an issue for them, as (aside from the fact it's generally obvious) if you've seen Built To Kill Part 2 you will have noticed Grissom and Sara teasing each other about the issue in a really cute (albiet somewhat round-a-bout) way in the opening scene -

(Sara notices a record on the wall)
SARA: "If Dusty Fell - Izzy Delancy"
GRISSOM: It was his biggest hit.
SARA: I have never heard of him.
GRISSOM: Probably before your time.
SARA: I'll download it.

And let's face it - they're both mature adults, they share common interests - what's 15 years taking that into consideration, really? I mean, age has never been a factor for me and Colin...*cough* *shifty eyes* WHAT?
 
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Hy jasmine actually it was me who wote about them beeing do close together! Thank you for noticing it too!!
 
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One thing that that seemed a little off to me in Double Cross, was the whole, “Was it something I said? Did I offend you as a Catholic?” thing, when he just left. It seems to me that Sara would know he was just of in lala land like always. I mean I could see her being cautious if they were talking about you know kinda personal stuff in a new relationship, but depending on your view of the timeline they’ve been together for like at least a year, so it seems like they would be past the, ‘I hope I don’t offend you’ stage. Not to mention did Sara not say herself, and I quote, “Well, that’s kinda what he does.” When that cab driver asked why he was just leaving in Room Service? I don’t know maybe I’m being too critical but it just didn’t seem to quite match up to me

I was thinking about this and I agreed at first. But on further thought, I don't think she meant it as "Oh, crap, I think I offended him" I think it was just a way to start up a conversation about where he stood religion-wise. She was probably just curious about how Catholic he really is and it never came up before then.

When my cousin and I were watching it the first time and he randomly leaves while she's still talking, my cousin said "She ought to know by now that's just how he is" but again, I think she was 100% joking when she said "It's just a theory." She knew he wasn't REALLY offended. She knew why he was leaving.

Furthermore, Grissom isn't the type to be offended by other people's religious beliefs. Nothing she said would have been offensive because she was just giving her own opinions.
 
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A big welcome to all new ones and long live the *DEAR*!
I thought about what you all were discussing lately (sara being pregnant and them leaving etc...)Well I am not quite sure If Sara is the mothertyp But on the other hand It seems that she is really comfortable with herself and how things are going for her right now (relationship with griss seems to develope in a positive way). The next big step for her and overcoming her troubled childhood and the very difficult relationship with her mother could be becoming a mother herself maybe thats the way to get over it for good. She is in her thirties and It could really be one of her last chances to become a mother and have a real family (maybe for the first time in her live she will be able to have a healthy relationship AND a family at all?!) I dont consider it soapy when a woman decides to have a child and a family cause there must be something besides from work and dead bodies. If grissom and sara a leaving together or staying together, there must be some kind of breakingpoint. I mean we watch them getting together for quite a long time with all the angst, struggling, hopes and fears and so on and so on. Now that they are togehter there must come out more than them just being together dont you think?! I cant imagine the writers kept us waiting and hoping for such a long time just to satisfy us with just knowing they ve made it. I believe that there is more to come, in fact we havent seen even a simple kiss. the writers are testing our patience again and again and it will become dramatical! Remember my words when we hit that point!!
 
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Poll Choice - "I just don't want them to leave, but if I had to pick a reason, I wouldn't want this to be it - I just can't see them as parents/it doesn't feel right for the show"

That's exactly what I think, except it just doesn't feel right for the show. That could really ruin it. I really can see them as parents, but it's better off in fanfics, I'm sad to say. Yes, I'd love to see how the characters would actually handle it on the show, but that's for another show called "The Secret Lives Of Grissom and Sidle" or something like that. Lol, that could be a thread title!!!
 
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About the age issue. I have heard somewhere that Billy's wife is pretty young and that it's about 20 years between the 2 of them, so I don't think it's something wrong with Sara being a little younger. You can't help who you are attracted to... It just happens!
 
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Hey guys, I've missed like two pages! I lost my dog and I've been so dang worried about her that I haven't been able to do anything. (even sleep)

But anyways back on topic, about the whole Sara being pregnant, uhh, to tell the truth I think Grissom is a little old to be havin' kids and plus Sara said I think it was like in Blood Drops, that she wasn't really that good with kids. I guess it just doesn't quite seem right if they were to have a kid(s). So I picked option three on the poll. But that's just what I think.

Who was it? I think it was like Sarah or someone that was talking about maybe some scenes got cut because they gave the impression that Sara and Grissom were hiding their relationship when in reality they are just keeping their private lives private. Anyways a few people mentioned when they were talking about thinking Sara was pregnant, that the print dust was getting to Sara in Gum Drops and so I rewatched it and I noticed something. Now you guys may have already discussed this but whatever. Sara tells Nick that Grissom called her from the airport. If they were already together at that point I would hope that he would have told Sara that he was going somewhere at some point before he was at the airport. But, maybe he did tell her and she didn't just tell Nick that. But if that were the case then it would scratch the idea of them not trying to hide anything and just being the private people that they are. Then again maybe she already knew he was leaving and stuff and he just called her to tell her to help Nick out. Ah, who knows (if this even made any sense)?

P.S. Rewatching Gum Drops reminded me that that is one of my all time favorite episodes, not only because I love George and Jorja, but because it was so well done and so emotion evoking. Plus I love Nicky's hair like it was in that episode. Heh
 
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he, on the other hand, seems to be more welcome to the whole issue. as you pointed out sarah, he appreciates tradition. but still i don't think he would decide on any of this firstly b/c he's not the kind of guy who would propose after a couple of months of relationship, and secondly, sara made it clear what she thinks about it.

I think Sara knows that he's a little more traditional, though. Because once Grissom was in the room, when Nick echoed her earlier words back to her, she kind of blushingly "clarified" what she had meant.

I don't think she wants to close the door on it with him, but I also don't believe she'd be dying to get hitched.

And the other thing is that it would be rather easy for them to get married and say, "See? You can't fire us - we're husband and wife", and I think if there was one situation Sara would be totally against using marriage for, it would likely be blackmail.

as i was thinking more about Rashomama, i looked at sara's anti-marriage statement from a different angle. what if she wanted to give Grissom a signal that he doesn't have to propose to her in the future, so he would be less anxious about making next steps in their relationship? if we assume that Rashomama takes place in the early/middle stage, they surely weren't talking about it yet. Grissom was uncertain what her expactations are but i can't see him talking about marriage openly with her. it's possible that both of them felt this topic coming but didn't want to address it. therefore sara, made her view clear with everybody around so it would look natural, not forced and less awkward.

True, but she made her REALLY strong comments with the other guys, and then kind of said, "Uh... no... I didn't say that, I said... for people who don't understand it"

And then both Sara and Grissom prove that they know the lore of marriage by giving the history of the bridesmaid - so Sara pretty much says, "And I DO understand it".

And Grissom says the same.

I do wonder, if they did get married and they did want a ceremony, whether Grissom would want them to have a priest do the honors? I mean, I know he's not a practicing Catholic, but it's clear he still has a lot of respect for the church and the religion, so it might be important to him - and something his mother would have wanted.

Two things: I think that although Grissom doesn't practice organized religion, IF they had a ceremony, he'd probably still want it to be done in the Catholic Church. Tradition.

Secondly, I don't see why everyone's so shocked that Mother Grissom has probably passed on. I don't mean here, but just in general. Grissom is a very private man. He told us three years ago that she was still alive, but isn't it possible that in any of the years following that he seemed particularly defeated, it was because he *had* gotten the news?

I mean, he wouldn't tell his co-workers about a disease that might cause him to retire. I really doubt that he was going to burst into the breakroom and go, "Guess what, guys? My mom died!"

Also, note that when he said "belonged" to Sara, she didn't seem surprised. So if Mother Grissom *is* dead, Sara was likely one of the first, if not the only, people/person he told.

But I would like to say this: I agree that people use it as an excuse not to like GSR. I mean, if anything, Grissom mentioned Sara as being young as a perk in Butterflied so even HE never used it as an excuse. It really bothers me that their age difference grosses people out. I mean, wow, they are both adults.

What I find funny is that the same people accuse Sara of being a downer. An age gap is usually more important when the emotional ages of the two people are divided. I don't think that's the case with GSR.

I think it was because first the look that Grissom gave Sara when she told him that the vic was ten weeks pregnant. And then, Sara wearing the mask when she was examining the car because no one really wears anything when they're in the lab (unless they wanted to do a throw back like in season four how they started to wear the little boots to the crime scenes) so that was like wtf is she wearing the mask? And then speculation was that she was wearing the mask because of the strong sense of the chemicals and can "harm the baby" if she is preganant. IMO she isnt pregnant and i dont think TPTB are going to let that happen and i really dont want to see that happen i just want a kiss damn it ....

Grissom's look seemed to be very private when Sara announced that Father Frank had slept with her. Very much a kind of sad scoff, sort of, "Well... not as much of a surprise as others might find it".

Like I said, it's very possible that they're making hints for pregnancy in case they *want* to use it, but I don't think we'll get any real anvils in either direction (preggers or no) until WP returns from the play. I have a feeling a lot is banking on what he feels like doing when he returns.
 
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okay, been gone for ONE FREAKIN' DAY, and i already have to read almost two pages!! :eek: you guys are soooo fast in posting!! in the poll i picked option three, just because i DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE!!, and it just doesn't fits the show, i guess.. i already gave my opinion in previous posts, so i'm not gonna explain it again ;)
big hug to fogi, glad you're back, great avvie! :D
 
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But anyways back on topic, about the whole Sara being pregnant, uhh, to tell the truth I think Grissom is a little old to be havin' kids and plus Sara said I think it was like in Blood Drops, that she wasn't really that good with kids. I guess it just doesn't quite seem right if they were to have a kid(s). So I picked option three on the poll. But that's just what I think.

Gum Drops is another one of those instances where Sara contradicts herself with her actions. She claims to be bad with children, yet Brenda bonds with her, and when the caseworker tells Sara she has to leave, and Brenda clings to her leg, Sara refuses.

I think Sara's more afraid to admit that she wants that life because, in her mind, she's worried about ruining the life of another child, like she probably feels her childhood was ruined. She knows she has a hot temper, she knows that she isn't necessarily great at personal relationships, and so the result is, I think, that she tells herself she's just bad at all of it to escape having to consider it.

Now you guys may have already discussed this but whatever. Sara tells Nick that Grissom called her from the airport. If they were already together at that point I would hope that he would have told Sara that he was going somewhere at some point before he was at the airport.

Two options: one, Sara didn't want to make it sound, to Nick, like she'd known about it for a few days when the rest of them didn't.

Or two: what she really meant was that Grissom had called to tell *her* to go out as the second person on the scene. So just letting him know why she was the one there, instead of Grissom.

And that's possible - it's possible Sara knew he was leaving, but didn't know she'd be chosen to work that case.
 
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Gum Drops is another one of those instances where Sara contradicts herself with her actions. She claims to be bad with children, yet Brenda bonds with her, and when the caseworker tells Sara she has to leave, and Brenda clings to her leg, Sara refuses.

I think Sara's more afraid to admit that she wants that life because, in her mind, she's worried about ruining the life of another child, like she probably feels her childhood was ruined. She knows she has a hot temper, she knows that she isn't necessarily great at personal relationships, and so the result is, I think, that she tells herself she's just bad at all of it to escape having to consider it.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. And while I think it would be kind of cute and all if they had a kid, I just think it would be a little OOC. I think neither of them would really feel the need to have kids. But if they did want one or had one because accidents happen, (like me for instance. I overheard my mom talking to one of my uncles once and she said, "I don't know what we were thinking when we had Emily." Thanks a lot Mom I feel really loved.) But anywhoo I would feel sorry for him/her, only because if it's true that Grissom's mom died the poor kid would have no grandparents, Giss is an only child and I think Sara has like a brother or something, so if her brother has a family that's like one uncle and maybe a couple cousins but that's not a whole lot of relatives. Not to mention his/her parents are socially retarded workaholics. Don't get me wrong I think they would take good care of him/her and he/she would have a it much better off than multitudes of kids out there but I would still feel sorry for the poor lil thing.


Two options: one, Sara didn't want to make it sound, to Nick, like she'd known about it for a few days when the rest of them didn't.

Or two: what she really meant was that Grissom had called to tell *her* to go out as the second person on the scene. So just letting him know why she was the one there, instead of Grissom.

And that's possible - it's possible Sara knew he was leaving, but didn't know she'd be chosen to work that case.

Very true, also a lot of it was probably just TPTB letting the audience know where Grissom was.
 
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