Eric/Ryan Slash--Unresolved Tension

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You know, I was shocked too... but the first thing that really caught my eye in Nailed was when Eric was holding onto Ryan's arm during the drive to the hospital, and he kept telling him to stay with him.

Then Ryan started to go into shock and his eyes were rolling to the back of his head, and Eric was panicking and telling him not to go into shock. Then what really piled on the shocker was when Eric told the doctor that he wanted to go into the ER and stay with Ryan. *sighs dreamily* I can't tell you how many times I watched and replayed that episode. I think I probably had their whole dialogue memorized by the following night 'cause I watched it so much. :D

I know, I'm pathetic. I'm obsessed, and I don't have a life. :lol:
 
SwiftTales said:
What strikes me about Nailed is the fact that Eric and Ryan really seem to come out stronger together from that episode, they both admit that they're wrong and they forge some sort of bond out of that
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I liked that too. :D And I liked it in Urban Hellraisers when Ryan was playing the computer game and Eric came in. Ryan wanted to go with him to arrest the guy (can't remember exact details) but Eric said he should stay and keep playing, "Gameboy". :lol: (I love that Eric called Ryan "Gameboy"). The atmosphere between them was totally transformed from what it was pre-Nailed. They had to have spent some time together, talking stuff out etc *cough* etc *cough*, to change their relationship like that. :p

And Tinkerbell After the Fall is one of my favourites too. And Speed Kills. There are some lovely Hardy Boys moments in both epis. :p

Shadowfax , "pathetic, obsessed, don't have a life". That sounds like me too. Should we form a support group?

ETA - I've got an avatar! Woooh! Oh, I'm happy now. :D
 
:lol: Ali, I think we already have! ;) Oh, yayness for you, too! I was so happy when I was finally able to put up an avatar. For a while there, I felt naked, you know? :D

Okay, just to generate some discussion, here are some questions that might require some thought: Suppose Speed hadn't died, and Ryan became a CSI anyway...
1. How do you think things would have been different between Eric and Ryan?
2. Would there be more or less tension between them?
3. And how do you think Speed and Eric would've treated Ryan?
 
Ali, your icon is great. he's really pretty. :D
cool questions Shadowfax!
I always tried to imagine how things would be with speed still alive.

1)+ 2) I think there would be less tension between them. Maybe the misunderstanding in SaT would have happened though, speed would smack ryan and tell him to make a proper excuse. Eric changed after speed's dead and now he slowly becomes the old eric again. Eric would be more patient with ryan.
3)they would haze him permanently. :lol: speed would teach him a lot of things, like he did with eric. I really see them going out together.

and now I steal something from some fics: speed would try to bring them together. :p
:lol:
such a sweet idea.
 
Oooh, I totally forgot about the hazing part, inge! :devil: They would so permanently haze the newbie, and they'd have a lot of fun 'teaching' Ryan and laughing at his expense. I like that scenario. *sighs* If only it were true.

And yes, dead or alive, Speed would definitely try to bring these two together! :D Hmmm... I wonder which fic(s) that came out of? :D :p
 
for example there's this fic (upon others, I also like the fic where speed is a ghost and tries to bring them togehter) which needs an update because the author left with an evil cliffhanger.
maybe you know the author.
describes herself as petite woman, in her late twenties, married and has pictures from jon togo in her wallet. :lol:

yes, speed would haze him, but he would also teach him a lot of useful things.
the atmosphere would be more relaxed.
*sighs* I wish speed would be there. the team wouldn't have broken apart.
 
inge said:
for example there's this fic (upon others, I also like the fic where speed is a ghost and tries to bring them togehter) which needs an update because the author left with an evil cliffhanger.
maybe you know the author.
describes herself as petite woman, in her late twenties, married and has pictures from jon togo in her wallet. :lol:
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OMG!! I was LMAO!! :lol: :lol: *cough, looks around :rolleyes:* I'm, uh... I'm not sure I know who you're talking about, girlie :D *cough, hides* I loved Persikay's "Unfinished Business" too, btw!

You know, if Speed were still alive, not only would he definitely try to bring Eric and Ryan together, but I could also see him as someone with whom both men would sort of run to for relationship advice or just to talk and set them straight. He strikes me as the kind of guy who would say what was on his mind, not beat around the bush, but just give it them straight. Am I making any sense? I think Speed would tell them straight up to get their act together and get together already! :D
 
And Speed was senior to Eric, I think. So I reckon Eric would have enjoyed having a newbie around with Speed still alive. He'd have been more relaxed with it, and they probably would have driven Ryan crazy with teasing and practical jokes. :lol:

I think that Eric's relationship with Ryan is totally different to that he had with Speed. :p There was never the tension between them. But then, Ryan's a totally different person to Speed, so the relationship would be different.

I've been thinking about the start of S3. Apart from the start of Under the Influence, I don't think that Eric and Ryan had much to do with each other until Speed Kills (unless I've forgotten something). :confused: Ryan mainly worked with Calleigh, and the first work interaction I remember them having was the hazing thing. Have I forgotten something?

Now, I have another question. My mind's been running with this matching clothes thing. :p I know that they were wearing the same colours in Three-Way, Freefall and Driven. Can anyone think of any other episodes where they did that? Have I missed any?

And Shadowfax , you're right. You do feel kind of naked without an avatar. But he's there now! *jumps up and down in excitement*
 
AliGtr said:
And I liked it in Urban Hellraisers when Ryan was playing the computer game and Eric came in. Ryan wanted to go with him to arrest the guy (can't remember exact details) but Eric said he should stay and keep playing, "Gameboy". :lol: (I love that Eric called Ryan "Gameboy").
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I loved that scene, I swear when Eric said 'Gameboy' he had a mischievous grin on his face. *coughs* Eric flirting *coughs* :devil: :lol: And Ryan just wanted to be close to Eric. :D

Shadowfax , "pathetic, obsessed, don't have a life". That sounds like me too. Should we form a support group?
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Copy that! :lol: Is it normal to be so excited beyond belief about seeing Ryan and Eric in a scene together? :eek:

Shadowfax said:
1. How do you think things would have been different between Eric and Ryan?
2. Would there be more or less tension between them?
3. And how do you think Speed and Eric would've treated Ryan?
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Good question Shawdowfax! Interesting. I honestly don't think there would be so much tension. Speed's death affected Eric so much deep down and I think whether it was Ryan who came on board or anyone else there may have been situations with Eric that would have mirrored ones with Ryan. Anyway to answer your question, I think there would have been a little less tension, in my opinion (and it's only my opinion ;)) I think a big part of the tension between Eric and Ryan is due to Speed being gone. So I think if Speed were still alive there would be less tension. Having said that Ryan gives as good as he gets, so to speak, so I don't think it's all just about Eric having a problem, I do think Ryan can provoke the situation. :lol:

As Ali said, I think there would have been a little teasing for the newbie from both Eric and Speed. Which would have been cute. I do still think there would have been a little of a thing going on between Eric and Ryan, I would have liked to see a little bit of jealously of Ryan and Speed from Eric, you know if Speed and Ryan are working on a case together, laughing a joking around. :devil: :lol: I do want to think that tension would still be there because of the attraction between. I also believe Eric and Ryan's relationship would have moved along a lot quicker if Speed were involved. Does any of that make sense? I've been typing so long, I think I'm rambling on. :lol:

By that way, I love that Ryan icon Ali. :)
 
I agree with you Tinkerbell.
ryan did also a lot of things wrong.
He provokes very often. I think he does it because he is tired of being the new guy, the guy who got the job because somone died, yadda-yadda-yadda.

Shadowfax, awww, speed giving them advice. that's a sweet thought. :D

Ali, there was also some tension between speed/eric in Season 1. In one episode Eric said something bad about Megan and Speed was like: you're an ass. I can't remeber the scene very well, but I'm sure something like that happened.
about the partner-look question:
double jeopardy comes to my mind:
here:
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from Miami Style
both are wearing orange/red.
 
I agree with everything said

the relationship between Eric and Ryan probably would have been different if Speed were still alive
Eric probably wouldn't have had some problems with Ryan because Ryan wouldn't be a replacement
The mistakes that Ryan made in the beginning, you know the vial for the courthouse and stuff, they wouldn't have been blown out of proportion the way they were because Ryan wouldn't have been Speed's replacement, he wouldn't have had to fill that position, wouldn't have been forced to not be allowed to make mistakes

I think that is also one of the key points in the tension between Eric and Ryan, I think Ryan was still holding a silent grudge against Eric for not trying to accept Ryan but acting as if Ryan walked up and shot Speed himself

If Speed would have been alive Ryan and Eric probably would have gotten along much better, but there still would have been tension, their personalities are just too different for there not to be any tension, but it probably wouldn't have been so bad as it was pre-Nailed

and then of course the sexual tension would have been present as well and Speed would have noticed and gotten Alexx to help him give Eric and Ryan a push *cough*shove*cough* in the right direction :devil:
 
I like everyone's scenarios here so far, and I agree in that I don't think the tension would've completely disappeared between Eric and Ryan. They're 2 different people with different personalities, and disagreements are bound to occur even among friends. But as SwiftT pointed out, the tension wouldn't have been as rough like it was pre-nailed if Speed was still alive.

Tinkerbell said:
So I think if Speed were still alive there would be less tension. Having said that Ryan gives as good as he gets, so to speak, so I don't think it's all just about Eric having a problem, I do think Ryan can provoke the situation.
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:lol: OMG! The only thing that entered and stayed in my mind was when you said that "Ryan gives as good as he gets." :devil: *coughs* mind in the gutter again! *coughs* :lol: And your ramblings do make sense, Tink. The attraction would still be there regardless of whether or not Speed's alive. ;)
 
Aww there was hardly any hardy boys in this ep. They had some screen time together, but it was nothing notable. I hope we get more Ryan and Eric in next week's episode. :(

It's their 100th ep and from what it looks like in the promo pictures Ryan has some kind of big part in this one. At least that's what I'm assuming from the pictures of him under the peer.

Promo pictures
 
inge said:
Ali, there was also some tension between speed/eric in Season 1. In one episode Eric said something bad about Megan and Speed was like: you're an ass. I can't remeber the scene very well, but I'm sure something like that happened.

about the partner-look question:
double jeopardy comes to my mind:
here:
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Oh yes, I remember that, I think. Eric was hired while Megan was away, and he didn't know she'd lost her husband. He was having a dig at her for being away, and Speed set him right. I didn't really get that much into CSI:M until Ryan was introduced ( :p) , so I don't recall that much about Speed. Quite the opposite to Ryan though, I think...

And thanks, inge . Double Jeopardy - orange tops. I keep going to JTO and Miami Style, and not knowing where to start looking for matching outfits :confused: - I know there's more episodes with matching outfits than might just happen by coincidence ;) , but I couldn't remember how many. I did a draft pic (sort of a collage) yesterday, and it was OK, but it would be better with more little pics. Mmmmm, it's hard to explain, but I'll post it here when I'm happy with it so you can see what I'm on about. :D

I understand that Ryan was wearing the same sweater as in the previous episode. Could it be that he hadn't had a chance to go home and change? For some reason? :devil:

Oh, and there seems to be an outbreak of coughing at the moment. Would anyone like some cough sweets? To soothe these tickly throats? *grins* :lol:
 
AliGtr said:
I didn't really get that much into CSI:M until Ryan was introduced ( :p) , so I don't recall that much about Speed. Quite the opposite to Ryan though, I think...
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:lol: same here.
I've been watching Miami since the beginning, but I don't know very much from the episodes. People often say that Season 2 was the best season, but all I could think is that might be true, but there was no ryan. I liked speed and I cried during 'lost son', but he was not my fav character.

I like the way your mind works.
maybe you're right that ryan was kind of 'busy' to change clothes. maybe because of a certain Cuban. :devil:

I saw '48 hours' yesterday. nothing special happened. they worked together like collegues.
but I saw a preview from 'three way' (next week) with ryan's smirk 'you're both wrong'. eric's look was priceless. can't wait for next monday. :D
 
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