Nice list,except for the fact that 4 of the 5 points don`t apply to Danny/Lindsay sense they were not in a serious relationship at the time.
You seem pretty sure there. How can you be so certain? I said, it may not have been serious, but then again, it depends how you define serious. And cheating is cheating. Are there like different levels of cheating or something?
Cooled. Means looses intensity. Doesnt mean over. Gone cold, means over. He said they were going through a down period in their relationship when the whole Rueben thing happened. You forgot to mention that part though. Like I said, a couple like D and L, you would have seen a breakup if they broke up. Its like not seeing Mer and Der breakup, or Sara and Grissom, thats what D/L is like for NY. They are THE couple of the show.
If just 1 person in a relationsship (that consist of 2 people) sees them as a couple, then they are NOT a couple! D did not see them as a couple, L did. Danny did not cheat.
Well what we saw sort of contradicts that..If D didn't see em as a couple, why did he want Lindsay back. D said. He pushed her away. L said, she didnt know how much longer she could feel alone. What do you think she meant by that. That sort of suggests she was waiting for him on some level doesnt it?
Perhaps Danny was just showing Lindsay what it was like being treated like crap. She is really good at treating him like that...
Seriously. Apart from the time she stood him up in LRC, can you tell me when else she treated him like crap? In LRC she was also honest with him. Her telling him she couldn't be with him IMO showed she did care. She didn't want to get into something she couldn't put her all in, because that wouldn't have been fair on Danny. And she left him a note when she went to Montana, IMO a note is way more personal that a quick goodbye. And what does that say about Danny, if he is treating her like crap, because apparently she treated him like crap. Makes him just as bad as her then doesnt it?
Relationsship does not automatically mean boyfriend/girlfriend
Really. Hmm interesting. Explain PV's "Danny and Lindsay are together and their relationship is happy and interesting" then. I am certain that she meant together as in a romantic relationship together. Cant see what other sort of together she could mean.
when it was stated by the writers that DL was not an item when Rikki was in the show.
Really. Can you show me that comment. I would like to see it.
PL said "The relationship had cooled when Danny hooked up with Rikki, BUT like any relationship it had its up and downs, and it was in that down period when Danny and Rikki connected"
Where in that statement does it say they had broken up. It doesnt. Seriously I dont think PL thought the question warranted an answer. It was made pretty clear on the show they were together, if they were not, why did Danny feel the need to explain himself about missing her birthday. If they were not together, why should he care? If they were not together, why have Lindsay call him in RND and ask him for lunch and offer to pay. If they were not together why did Danny get defensive when L asks him was their something wrong. Why would Flack say that Danny should piss of Lindsay more often, which means as far as F knew they were still together but D had done something to upset her. I am sure if they had broken up before that F would have known, he is Dannys best friend afterall. Why did Lindsay have the picture of Danny on her phone. If they had broken up before the whole Ruben arc, why still have that couply picture on her phone.
The thing about TV is they cant show us every moment. Read my previous post up a way or two. They showed enough. This argument goes both ways. You say they never showed em as a couple, but TPTB stated they were . So if they were not together like you say, where was the breakup scene? I didnt see it. Wouldnt you think a couple that has evolved on the show like D/L would be shown breaking up?
Also Carmine himself said they were either going to get really serious or end it, AFTER the Rikki thing. He didn't just say serious, he said REALLY serious. If they were not together, how could they break up or become really SERIOUS. Makes no sense at all does it?
Danny didn`t avoid her gaze,he was more shocked but avoiding her gaze nope.
I think it was more evident in the scene before that, when Danny arrives at work when L, M, and H are standing in the hallway. Twice Lindsay catches his gaze, and twice he looks away. Also in the talk scene. Danny, when Lindsay says "obviously you decided to do this all on your own" Shifts in his seat and turn his head and looks down. That is a sign of guilt and shame. Look up Body Language on the net and have a look under body language for somone thats feeling guilt and or shame. Carmine played it perfectly IMO
but due to the circumstances I can see why Lindsay went back to him. I don't think he would have cheated under differenent circumstances.
ITA with you..I dont think he would have either. Danny has always been shown to be a loyal character, there is no way if he was in his right mind he would have done the crap he did.
ETA. Kristine. We have to go off what we see. If PL did indeed state that to you, how are we supposed to know that? We can only read the answers you type up in your interview. On the season 4 dvd Anna makes the comment "At the beginning of Season 4, Lindsay is happy again. She got together with Danny at the end of Season 3 which is what shes wanted all along, so shes kind of re-invigorated and kinda peppy again. And then Danny has this terrible thing happen." See that suggests to me that things were relitively ok up until the Rueben thing. PL also said "Dannys guilt ultimately put a wedge between the Danny and Lindsay storyline" See that also suggest to me that things were ok between them, maybe not perfect, but like PL said, all relationships have their ups and downs. The reason the relationship cooled IMO was because of Danny pushing Lindsay away after Rueben died. And the connection I assume PL mentions between D and R is Ruebens death. Relationships have ups and downs all the time, that doesnt give you the right to sleep with someone else though, no matter what the circumstances. If you watch the Rikki/Danny scene, Danny tries to justify what they are doing, by saying "Reubens dead" Thats how he is making it ok in his mind. What does that tell you about his state of mind at the time?
Rikki over heard the phonecall, there is no way in heck she didn't, the door was open, plus she seemed nervous and on edge. The fact she over heard was the catalyst to her speech. Desperately trying to make Danny understand, that under normal circumstances what was happening wouldn't have been happening. She knew he was going to s***w everything up, she could see him self destructing and I think in a way, she kinda felt partly responsible. And thats why I have never been able to dislike Rikki, she didn't want to be part of Danny F*****g up his life. She was trying to make him see, he was going to regret it later on. Even though she was going through the worst thing imaginable and her life was in tatters, she didnt want the same thing to happen to Danny.
