Death Penalty? What's your opinion?

I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty. I don't think it deters crime. There are too many appeals, etc. involved before any executions actually take place.

I do think however, that the US judicial system is sorely lacking in areas. Just this week a man was paroled after serving only 17 years for first degree murder and rape in the death of an 87- year old woman. His first conviction of life in prison was overturned because his guilty plea was taken outside the 20th Judicial District. In his subsequent trial he was sentenced to only 35 years. Where's the justice for the victim and her family in all this?
 
he had been in prison for 3 years and wasn't allowed to hug his mother. an hour before his execution they were allowed to hold hands, BUT NOT EVEN HUG!
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People serving on Death Row are there for a reason. They're sick bastards that that can mercilessly commit a cold-blooded crime without even flinching. They SHOULD suffer for their crimes. It's their own fault. They chose their path. I say thats for the better. Let them suffer in their last moments as their victims did.

-GGCSI
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GGCSI if you're referring to this case then i don't like what you said. This man didn't murder anyone. He didn't deserve to die.
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I totally agree with you Kat_la.


I don´t think anyone desrves to die!
I mean you can´t take away somebodies life!It´s sick...no matter what they did!
I mean if someone killed my family..i would hate him and never ever forgive him...but i wouldn´t want him to die!Don´t you see that we are telling people it´s wrong to kill and then killing !...where is the logics?
It´s horrible..it´s cold-blooded murder!
 
he had been in prison for 3 years and wasn't allowed to hug his mother. an hour before his execution they were allowed to hold hands, BUT NOT EVEN HUG!
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People serving on Death Row are there for a reason. They're sick bastards that that can mercilessly commit a cold-blooded crime without even flinching. They SHOULD suffer for their crimes. It's their own fault. They chose their path. I say thats for the better. Let them suffer in their last moments as their victims did.

-GGCSI
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We put these people on death row for a reason because they did an unspeakable act against another. I'm sorry but these are not normal people and I do not believe that they can be helped. I also do not think that the taxpapers should have to pay for them while they are there. In the US our heatlhcare is so bad and most cannot afford any insurance but hell one of these criminals (and by this I am talking about life-sentence and death row) gets a cold and we do everything possible to cure em. Seems not right to me.
 
Eibhlin, As to your statement that I was trying to twist it for my own benefit, you must be mistaken. I was simply interpreting it. I'd advise you to re-check and re-read your next to last paragraph!
What are prisoners if not leeches and opportunists? If it were up to me, I'd starve them to death, deprive them of *all* exercise and deny them the right to better themselves educationally! However, I can not speak for countries like France , where the system of justice is the opposite of ours; or for Singapore, whose laws are a lot stricter than ours.
I recall a case where a boy who was visiting Singapore was caught spraying graffiti . The authorities there dealt with him severely, to put it mildly.
 
I still think that if you take another life ON PURPOSE, you should receive the death penalty.

If you take someone's life as the result of an accident where the outcome was beyond your control, such as a car crash on an icy day, then it's a whole different story.

If you set out to deliberatly take the life of another person, then I don't give a sh*t what people say, you are a sick, sick freak who deserves nothing less then death. People who say "I killed him/her, but it wasn't a murder" are trying to get out of a punishment. If you purposely kill another human being, then it IS murder. No question.

And to clear up anything people might draw from this, or from my previous post, when I said that my family and the family of our murdered friend would have wanted his killer to hang, I didn't mean that literally. I meant that we wanted to see him die.

Although I do support the death penalty, I think that lethal injection should be the method of execution, it's far less painful then many of the other methods used. The only time that another more painful method should EVER be used is if the crime is something so totally heinous that nothing else could be fitting. The BTK killings are an example of this. I think that Denis Rader needs to experience the pain his victims did.
 
Question is, madgeorge, when do we learn that by killing the murderers, that we're turning into what we abhor?
 
I guess the bigger question is, do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

Does killing one person prevent the deaths of many (the potential vitims)? Or, doesn't killing that person save the government the cost of maintaining that life, so that the money could be spent in other, more necessary places?

There are SO many ways to look at it. It's definitely a contentious topic.
 
Eibhlin,
You say that you never mentioned anything concerning
leeches. Well, perhaps you didn't say it directly but you spoke metaphorically.
 
Question is, madgeorge, when do we learn that by killing the murderers, that we're turning into what we abhor?
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You make a very valid point.

These murderers are people who killed someone for the sake of killing someone. They may have had different reasons for doing so, hatred, monetary gain, or just mental unrest. These people killed because it would give them some form of pleasure. I am not suggesting that we execute the murderers for some form of pleasure. I am suggesting that we execute them to

a) give closure the the family/families of the victim(s).

b) to give the killer the punishment they deserve for taking the life of an innocent person.

c) to prevent the possible deaths of future victims, since the justice system seems to think that releasing people is great fun.

Think, if you will, for a moment, about this:

You are at your home, sitting on your couch, watching TV, there is a knock at the door. You open it only to find a police officer waiting to tell you that someone you love is dead, brutally murdered by a complete stranger. After months of investigation, the person responsible for their death is caught. A trial ensues. The killer is given a prison sentence, probably, given the world we live in, with that awful tagline, "Eligible for parole in ____". The killer is taken to prison, where they will live in luxury, with things like a comfortable bed, full meals, television, and education. Until, of course, the time comes when the parole board decides to release them back into society to do the same thing to another person and their family. And even if they aren't eligible for parole, the person who terminated the life of someone that you loved will be allowed to remain alive, in a comfortable room, with access to things that many normal people don't have.

Does this sound fair to you?

If it does, then I'd love to hear your reasoning.
 
^^^ This is exactly my dilemma. I've always felt the death penalty was wrong, but... if i got that knock on the door, I can't guarantee I wouldn't want that person wiped off the face of the earth. In fact, I have a feeling I might want exactly that, which is why I'm not so quick to condemn others for wanting the same thing, these days.
 
madgeorge,
Most definitely it is not. However, as I said to Eibhlin earlier, is that all the privileges: food, exercise and education have to denied *all* prisoners.Perhaps this would make a difference!
 
The only way that I would EVER think that life in prison was an acceptable punishment for murder was if the prisoner was deprived of everything but the basic requirements. No fancy foods, no television, no internet, no books, no visitors that aren't medical proffessionals, no chances to better their education. Nothing but the bare minimum. They don't deserve it. That is the ONLY situation when life in prison is acceptable. People who get life sentences should have to suffer and rot in prison.

I never used to think this way. I always thought that the death penalty was barbaric and inhumane. Then I experienced the pain of losing someone to murder firsthand. I know how the people left-over feel. The pain is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The only way that I, or any of the others close to our friend, could feel any closure, was if the person responsible for taking him away was dead, or at least living an incredibly miserable existance.

I find it to be sad that, as a 16-year-old girl, I feel this way. People my age shouldn't have to worry about things like this. It's a sad, sad world we live in.
 
You've forgotten their right to work out in the gymnasium. How do you think they've become as strong as they are?? How do you think they've been able to overpower the bulls??
 
Well, in France he wouldn't have much of a chance because he would to prove his innocence. That's the way their system of justice works. And the magistrates wear red robes:red symbolizing blood. It's a throwback to what the headsman wore at the time of the French Revolution.
 
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