I think Danny had a thing for Lindsay before she was interested in him, to be honest, there is nothing to indicate (that I can think of) Lindsay was interested in him first, as I also got the opposite impression.
In "Fare Game," "Stuck on You" and "Cool Hunter," Lindsay went out of her way to see Danny--in the latter two, outside of work. I remember at one point her seeming a little down when he walked away from her while she was still talking to him (in "Stuck on You"). She bought him drinks/offered to buy him drinks in two episodes. She even ate the bug dinner he bought for the team! :lol: To me that indicates she definitely had an interest in him.
As far the the Rikki thing goes it is possible that she knew/thought something was going on - whether she said anything to indicate that to Danny we'll probably never know because a lot of their relationship is off screen. And again if she tried to reach out to him, talk to him it is entirely possible that he did shut her out - we really don't know since it wasn't on screen.
We can't really assume things we didn't see happened, unless we're directly told about them by one of the characters. To assume she went to him off screen, or suspected something about Rikki off screen, is a big leap.
And for Lindsay telling Stella to leave her alone - I'm not really sure how it works but I'm pretty sure that her immediate boss is Mac (not Stella) and then up the chain to Gillian and Sinclair and whoever else.
Stella outranks her, and was the lead CSI on the case Lindsay was on. Hence, Stella was in charge. Regardless, the way Lindsay talked to her was inappropriate, and would have been inappropriate no matter who it was. It would have been rude to talk to Adam that way, but because it was Stella, someone who outranks Lindsay, it was insubordinate, too.
Yeah, but I don't think it was that long after Danny told a white lie to Hawkes about how Lindsay had met the victim when she went to get a flu shot. I think Lindsay was probably still trying to deal with it herself at that point and clearly hadn't gone around telling people - I got the impression that she had pretty much kept it to herself.
Yeah, but if she and Stella were actually close friends, it would have been an opportunity for her to confide in Stella.
I guess I can see how that might mean they were couple-y, although ugh. I didn't have a problem with Danny sleeping with Rikki, mostly because I figured he was basically free to do so. It's harder to reconcile now - not to mention makes so much less sense that instead of doing the right thing, breaking it off with Lindsay and sticking with Rikki, he spent the next four episodes on Lindsay's back.
Both Peter Lenkov and Carmine have gone on record saying Danny didn't cheat, that what happened with Rikki happened during a "cooled off" period in Danny and Lindsay's relationship. I've always read it that Lindsay thought they were more serious than Danny did. When Lindsay didn't reach out to him after Ruben's death, he turned away from her and figured they were done--kind of without telling her.
I agree the whole RND exchange was ambiguous. I do think, however, even if Lindsay partly wanted to wake Danny up with her statement, she had every intention of going through with her words. That's why the "begging for forgiveness" was :brickwall: for me in S4. He should have just let it go - if he was with Lindsay when he slept with Rikki, he obviously couldn't have wanted it that badly anyway.
I don't think Danny knew what he wanted at that point--I think he was just grieving. He didn't want Rikki to hate him for being responsible for her kid's death--so he slept with her. He didn't want Lindsay to hate him for pulling away/not being as into her as she was to him--so he slept with her (at the end of "Personal Foul," when TPTB have said their kid was conceived). Danny clearly uses sex as a band aid of sorts--I'm still not entirely sure who or what he wanted himself in season four, and I don't think he knew, either. He did want that baby in season five though, that's for sure.
Lindsay seemed ready enough to be friendly-coworkers with him the way she is with everyone else, as the Jaws exchange in Like Water for Murder indicated. I do think there is a point where avoidance stops being bratty punishment and starts being clear self-preservation, and I think that's the point Lindsay was at. She no longer seemed to be mad at him as far as his just being a coworker went. It was only when Danny started pushing for them to talk as something other than coworkers that she kept shooting him down. I don't see that as a fair thing for him to ask, especially given that I now think it's only his guilty conscience that was making him ask.
Yeah, I agree a good part of it was self-preservation on Lindsay's part. I think Danny was trying to make it right because he thought he should and did want things to be okay with them again. I think it was partially punishment though--she had her say, why not let him say his piece? It seemed cruel to dump all of that on a grieving guy and then not let him say what he needed to say in return.
I totally agree that their S2 relationship made her crush embarassingly clear, but I don't think the writers broke with consistency regarding Lindsay's distance with people. To me the date in Stuck on You was at least as awkward as any of Lindsay's informal exchanges with Stella are.
Really? I actually thought that was kind of cute--the way she bought him a drink and watched him with a big smile on her face when he watched Mac play...I was actually kind of rooting for her then.
And it was the one time they'd hung out after work - even then there was a backdrop of work since their boss was present. Even if Lindsay and Danny had hooked up in S2, it would've been the kind of relationship Danny had with...Cindy,for example. Together for fun, nothing really personal discussed. They might literally have been coworkers who just slept together. I think this was the sort of attraction Lindsay had in mind, and I agree that she was perfectly honest about that attraction.
I'm not sure either of them was going to start something casual with someone they worked with, although Danny did imply that in "Love Run Cold," but that could have been a defense mechanism since she stood him up. Either way, I kind of thought they were getting to know/like each other in season two. It's the only season I found them palatable as a couple--though even back then I did have some reservations.
What I don't think she had in mind was anything that got too personal. Even in S2, she'd push him away - or back away herself (I'm thinking Run Silent) - when things got too personal.
In RSRD, I thought she went out of her way for him by bringing the DNA to him rather than Mac first. That was the first time I realized that her feelings for him ran far, far deeper than a crush.
She brushed him off when he asked her what was wrong twice in All Access. She was on edge during Stealing Home, but she never told Danny why - Danny just guessed and went to Mac about it. She brushed him off when he asked about her cut in Charge of this Post. She was fine when Danny started responding to her crush - that was sometime in mid-S2. It was when things got too personal that she pushed him away.
I didn't really see her pushing him away in season two--I thought some of that was just her emerging abrasive personality. I remember in "Heroes" she was fishing for information about Danny and Aiden's relationship from Stella. She didn't start pushing him away until season three--after they'd already made plans to go out on a date.
I think the producers makes all the decision..! and yeah, both CSI and CSI NY made it but not CSI Miami.
Really, Grounds of Deception? Are they out of their mind? Fanfiction award can, but for Emmy's? give me break!
Anyways, as for the deadlines
I quote " Entries will be accepted online until April 24, 2009. All entries, whether the program has already aired or will air between April 24 and May 31, MUST be entered by April 24. For example, a program still in editing without a final music score must be entered by the editor and the composer by April 24." click
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Yeah, "Pay Up" was totally eligible, though it's likely it hadn't been through the final editing process yet. They did at that point think it was going to air a week later. So maybe that has something to do with it? Either way, Eddie was great in that episode, and really deserved to be submitted.
