CSI:NY Season 4 Spoilers--Get 'Em In A New York Minute

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Faylinn said:
I don't think anything about the spoilers suggests that he cheats, so getting caught up in that would be a mistake right now IMO. I suspect that he's waiting for a friend or, as the title might suggest, a family member (*crosses fingers for Louie*). Just because he doesn't want to see Lindsay at the moment doesn't mean it's because he wants to see some other woman--maybe he just doesn't want to have to share his feelings or explain anything. I mean, hasn't Lindsay tried more than once to get Danny to open up? Maybe he just doesn't want to deal with that right then. Honestly, who wants to spend every cotton-pickin' moment of their waking lives with their significant other?

So no, until something actually suggests that Danny is going to cheat, I'm not assuming it. Not wanting Lindsay around could be for any number of reasons.
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I personally wouldn't consider him being with someone else "cheating" because the only CANON thing we've seen of their "relationship" is them boinking on Danny's pool table. I used that word because I figure TPTB and I know a lot of D/L shippers would consider him being with someone else cheating.

I think, for me anyway, it's easy to speculate that Ruben's mother could be a potential romantic/sexual interest for Danny. TPTB spent two seasons setting up D/L and one season making Danny Lindsay's lap dog. They seem to be hell bent on him being with someone.

I agree with you, though, that getting caught up in one particular speculation isn't good. I also hope you're right and it turns out to be Louie (or someone else, but preferably Louie) he's expecting and they don't even hint at going there with Ruben's mother.
 
I am very intrigued by this Danny storyline. Intrigued, and also impressed that TPTB decided to bless us with some continuity. ;)

From what I was able to read we see him at the beginning of the episode, then he goes MIA for a while (and Lindsay later tells him she covered for him), which might be why Flack goes to his apt, and then towards the end of the episode he's back at home drinking beer and... waiting for someone?

He's obviously got something on his mind. Either something from the case he's working on hits too close to home or it's really about that kid Ruben. Louie? It would be great, but too much continuity in one episode, I don't know? :lol: What I really hope for is a Danny/Flack scene. You know, concerned!Flack and leave-me-alone-I-don't-need-anybody!Danny. That would make the fangirl in me squee with delight. :D
 
I kinda wonder if they're going to go in that direction. Danny seems so short with Lindsay--who is of course not making things better talking about what she did for him (covered for him, I guess--which, hello, think she owes him there ) and talking about what she needs . I still hope Danny's not cheating, but at the same time, this would be the one way they could sort of make it excusable. People do crazy things when they're grief-striken. And if Danny feels responsible, he could feel he owes it to Ruben's mother to give her whatever he can--and if she wants him, I would assume he'd go along. Either way, he needs to unload himself of the selfish shrew that is Lindsay.
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I don't think they'll go there. I'm sure that Danny will feel guilty & responsible for what happen with Ruben, but I don't see him cheating. And isn't Ruben mom a neighbor? Why wait for her to come, when he can go to her if he wants to? Don't think he was waiting for her.

I think he was waiting for a man. Not sure who, though:

A. FLACK. Flack went thought his apartment, so he probably knew where to find him. So I think they already talked & agreed on meeting that night. Have a drink or 7 and talk. Guys stuff. Doesn't Danny always turn to Flack?

B. Louie. Again, bad day, makes sense to wanna be with a friend or family.


My existential doubt :

- What happened in 412 & 413 to Danny? How guilty is he feeling over what happened to Ruben? Or there is more? So Danny missed work one day, but that is not enough to make Flack go nuts like that. He must know he's invading Danny's privacy but he does it anyway. That's gotta be serious.

Just because he doesn't want to see Lindsay at the moment doesn't mean it's because he wants to see some other woman--maybe he just doesn't want to have to share his feelings or explain anything. I mean, hasn't Lindsay tried more than once to get Danny to open up?
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Exactly. Why jump to that conclusion?? He clearly doesn't feel like talking to her. (Stop goofing off.) Second, yes Danny had feelings for her in S3, yes they had sex ( on a pool table), but having a crush on someone won't make that person the love of your life. So, they are together, but maybe not that close. A couple taking it easy, not already choosing the church for their wedding. :lol:

One more thing,now they are together, but the last 2 seasons they were to busy chasing after each other to bother to built a real & true friendship. Yes, Danny has always been there for her, but still... Or at least I don't see a real foundation based on friendship here. So, Danny might prefer to talk to Mac, Flack,Stella , Hawkes etc. Especially since she kinda took it down the "Me, I, Myself" path. "I did, I want, tell me." Maybe he just wasn't in the mood for that. He is hurt, so he need confort, not to explain himself. I wonder how will she react to this.

I'm really curious where will this Danny storyline take us.
 
Have a drink or 7 and talk. Guys stuff.
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I'm definitely picturing Danny having something like that in mind--just having someone he trusts and is comfortable with there, but not feeling obligated to talk about anything. Just comfortable silence, maybe watch a baseball game, maybe chit-chat about random stuff, play pool--someone to be there for him without trying to dig too deep or pressure him to share his feelings or try to get over whatever is going on.
 
Orison said:
From what I was able to read we see him at the beginning of the episode, then he goes MIA for a while....and then towards the end of the episode he's back at home drinking beer and... waiting for someone?
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He's obviously got something on his mind. Either something from the case he's working on hits too close to home or it's really about that kid Ruben. Louie? It would be great...
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It's so hard to guess what is actually going on when there's just so little info, but I remember reading once (could've been speculation though) that we might learn Louie's fate this season and/or that something from Danny's past resurfaces.

Could it be that he's still struggling with Ruben's death and then something happens (in this case?) that has a connection to his past/Louie and he disappears to investigate something on his own, which Flack figures out?

And I don't think he will cheat either, but perhaps - here's my little shipper heart talking - he's expecting someone he doesn't want Lindsay to see/get involved with?
 
but perhaps - here's my little shipper heart talking - he's expecting someone he doesn't want Lindsay to see/get involved with?
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I'm completly agree with you, dutch_treat. There are still not so many clues to affirm that this new conflict in Danny's story is linked to his brother. But surely something is going on. And that something seems to be quite important to Danny.

Even if we haven't seen so many afection between him and Linds during the fourth season, he has always cared about her and he knows how bad was last year for her with the whole going-to-Montana-to-testify and everything. So my guess is, yes, Danny is trying to keep his troubles back from Linds in order to protect her, not phisically (or maybe yes) but emotionally.

yas

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That is a possible angle, Dutch & Yas. I recall reading on the old CBS web page about Danny having grown up in a family under surveillance. Yeah, that information isn't canon, however since it was supposedly part of how they imagined Danny's past at one time, they might be connecting with that. Although he seems to have reconcilled his family's activities on the other side of the law with the integrity he possesses in his adult life, he might not want to fully merge the two lives. But law-abiding or not, family is still family...

I hope that it is Louie he is waiting for, but he could also be waiting for his father, grandfather, uncle, cousin(s), etc. Well, if it is a family connection.

Oh, and just for reference, I found the snippet from the old web page:
old CBS web page Bio for Danny Messer:

Detective Danny Messer brings his Staten Island roots to the New York City Crime Lab. Growing up in a family under surveillance, Danny formulated his own set of hybrid ethics, blending the world of law-breakers with the world of lawmakers. Mac personally selected Danny to join his team, an honor and responsibility that Danny attempts to live up to every day.
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just a thought but isn't it kind of selfish of Danny to make a grieving woman come to him?
I dont know, doesnt really add up. If he was looking for her, I'd think he go to her.
I think it's Louie, it just makes more sense.
 
I don't really think Danny is trying to "protect" Lindsay--he just seems like he plain doesn't want her around. He's probably shutting down emotionally and withdrawing into himself, or she's just not the person he wants to confide in. And can you blame him, given her "it's all about meeeeeee!" attitude? Like others have said, I don't see him cheating, but that doesn't mean he's not "finding out she's not all he'd thought she was" or whatever Carmine's words were. That said, I'd hardly see him blowing her off as the death knell of their relationship...as welcome as that truly would be.

The fact that we never see who Danny is waiting for makes me think we'll get some clue earlier in the episode. I do kinda think it's Ruben's mother because as much as it would be great to see Louie again, there don't seem to be any hints elsewhere that Louie has anything to do with this plotline.

I think much more likely than Danny cheating is selfish Lindsay getting jealous over him consoling and bonding with Ruben's mother. And that could drive a serious wedge between them.
 
Hey guys, I was just reviewing "Boo" when I noticed something...

During the whole episode, the same melody can be heard. It's so perceptible at the first scene, but as I have said, this tune shows up again and again, sometimes you even forget that it's there. Plus, this same music can be heard in most of the 4th season episodes (not sure about the past seasons).

I really love this music, everytime that comes up it's like, "please, don't you open that door, sure the murderer is hiding behind!" or "Don't take that call! it's 333!"


yas

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I don't really think Danny is trying to "protect" Lindsay--he just seems like he plain doesn't want her around. He's probably shutting down emotionally and withdrawing into himself, or she's just not the person he wants to confide in.
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Top, I agree this sounds like a likely scenario, to me. And as you said, I don't think it's necessarily the death knell for their relationship, but as another poster mentioned, their relationship itself doesn't appear to be built on a solid foundation of friendship. So it makes perfect sense that if Danny wants to confide in someone, or just have a good old fashioned heart-to-heart with someone, it might very well be with someone other than Lindsay, someone who he has a deeper friendship with.

At any rate, this episode sounds fantastic. :)
 
^Yeah, that's the thing--for all the cutsey flirting that went on, Danny and Lindsay don't really have a friendship. He's never confided in her, and while he was there for her in season three, she's never really been there for him. The person Danny always turns to is Flack, though he and Hawkes are starting to grow close as well. But yeah, good point about Danny and Lindsay's relationship not being built on a solid friendship--long term, that's not a great sign.
 
But yeah, good point about Danny and Lindsay's relationship not being built on a solid friendship--long term
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I have never seen the Danny-Lindsay relationship in that way, but I guess you both are right. It is possible that Danny doesn't confide that much in Linds, yet. But let's give them more time to build its relationship.

yas

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