CSI: NY Season 4 Spoilers! Discussion in the Big Apple

[Top41]

I believe Greg has been in the credits since season three of CSI--he was a lab tech until season six I think.

Jordan and Quinn in the same episode? Interesting! I'm so glad Quinn is going to be back. I knew Jordan was because I think it was mentioned that Jessalyn Gilsig is signed to do three episodes, but I didn't know Quinn was returning and I'm thrilled. Add Angell and Reed into the mix and that's just very cool.

I'm guessing the press release is that old error showing up again. CBS should be a little more careful with that.

 

[Faylinn]

From the spoilers-only thread:

CBS info on 4x19 "Personal Foul":

The CSI team follows a forensic trail of evidence to stop the "Cabbie Killer" from killing another fare, on CSI: NY Wednesday, May 7 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Jessalyn Gilsig guest stars.

So I'm guessing Jordan is there since dealing with a serial killer would get the mayor involved because of publicity and such. That explains why she'd also be in 4.20 as well--it also tells us that Jessalyn's three episodes will be up after 4.20. I'll be interested to see if they bring her back after that.

 

[MacsLady]

I believe Greg has been in the credits since season three of CSI--he was a lab tech until season six I think.

Jordan and Quinn in the same episode? Interesting! I'm so glad Quinn is going to be back. I knew Jordan was because I think it was mentioned that Jessalyn Gilsig is signed to do three episodes, but I didn't know Quinn was returning and I'm thrilled. Add Angell and Reed into the mix and that's just very cool.

I'm guessing the press release is that old error showing up again. CBS should be a little more careful with that.

Jordan, Quinn AND Reed? Wow, I'm surprised Mac will be able to focus on the case. :lol:
I'm so glad Quinn is back though, love her chemistry with Mac. I really loved that last episode, neither was uneasy working with the other, despite the kiss, and they were friends with a professional relationship and a great chemistry. Jordan has nice chemistry with him too. I'm interested to see what Stella's reaction to Quinn being back will be - she seemed curious about her, and her relationship to Mac. She didn't seem too pleased when Flack pointed out she was 'pretty' either. I think she's uneasy about Mac having apparantly known Quinn before he knew her. Not that she's jealous, just that I think she likes to think of herself as the woman Mac trusts the most and has known the longest (with the exception of Claire) and Quinn sort of threatens that. I somehow think she'd be less bothered by Quinn if she was a straightforward romantic interest for Mac. I just hope they don't do some tacky soap opera thing with a big confrontation and Mac having to choose between Quinn and Jordan. But given how they've portrayed Quinn so far, I don't think they'll do that. Let's not put Mac and Quinn and Jordan in the D/L High School Drama Land, PLEASE TPTB.
Hmmm, it will be interesting to see Quinn's reaction to Jordan, though. Of course, they might never be in a scene together.
I guess Jordan's there to keep an eye on things for the mayor, and maybe help Mac out on the political side of things. But I'm thinking Mac must ask Quinn to come back to help out with the Cabbie Killer case, or she turns up to help him out, as she did work with them on it in 417.

 

[Ghawazee]

Am i the only who thinks it's totally silly to have many women around Mac?:scream::scream: Last year with Peyton and D/L soap opera Stella lost a lot of screentime

I don't think we need more than that this year!!! or the next season either:brickwall:

and thanks to MJ, Smackers know the chat between Stella and Flack.
And she DOESN'T look pleased nor happy

In my country we call it Jealousy

Debbie


Please TPTB get rid of that Jordan Whatever and the RH
Lady

 

[MacsLady]

I actually like having women who aren't Stella around Mac. I think he needs other women in his life apart from just her. And I think Quinn and Jordan are great But then I prefer Mac and Stella as just friends.
But I do agree with you that Melina doesn't get nearly the amount of storylines/screen time she deserves. I think that as she is second in the credits she should get more than one storyline a season. I understand why Mac gets more storylines than she does, but it seems to me that lately Danny is getting more screen time than Stella. But I do like that the writers give Stellla at least one good storyline each season. Also, I think that
Mac having two women who are 'friends with the possibility for something more' in his life is a bit much when Danny ALSO has two women in his life - Rikki and Lindsay. And around the same time too - my understanding is that Rikki and Lindsay are both in 418, and of course then Quinn and Jordan are both in 419. With all these new women showing up, Rikki, Jordan, Quinn, fascinating as they are, and while they offer interesting insights into Danny and Mac's characters, they do push Stella kinda into the background, which is not good when she's the leading lady of the show. But then she did get a great storyline and lotsa screen time in Right Next Door.

 

[Ghawazee]

I actually like having women who aren't Stella around Mac. I think he needs other women in his life apart from just her. And I think Quinn and Jordan are great But then I prefer Mac and Stella as just friends.
But I do agree with you that Melina doesn't get nearly the amount of storylines/screen time she deserves. I think that as she is second in the credits she should get more than one storyline a season. I understand why Mac gets more storylines than she does, but it seems to me that lately Danny is getting more screen time than Stella. But I do like that the writers give Stella at least one good storyline each season. Also, I think that
Mac having two women who are 'friends with the possibility for something more' in his life is a bit much when Danny ALSO has two women in his life - Rikki and Lindsay. And around the same time too - my understanding is that Rikki and Lindsay are both in 418, and of course then Quinn and Jordan are both in 419. With all these new women showing up, Rikki, Jordan, Quinn, fascinating as they are, and while they offer interesting insights into Danny and Mac's characters, they do push Stella kinda into the background, which is not good when she's the leading lady of the show. But then she did get a great storyline and lotsa screen time in Right Next Door.

from the botton of my heart i tell THANK YOU! :thumbsup:Finally someone seems to be reading my mind!!!!!!!! And no, Melina is not getting all storylines she deserves being so talented actress
Certainly it will be funny if we have the Red Head Lady and Jordan Who? in the same episode around Mac. But just in ONE episode
Unfortunately i've read in another thread the actress who portrays Jordan was offered a 3-year contract:brickwall:
If you ask me is a BIG mistake. The CSI: junior high drama is already too much and it doesn't allow Melina to have her big storylines. Imagine if we add another woman/women to the combo

Besides i don't understand why, for God's sake, we have those tiny and priceless scenes between Mac and Stella season after season if TPTB want to keep them apart permanently:wtf:
I don't know. I'm Melina fan but my Smacked side is so strong as it and

I want to have them sharing more than just ONE scene per season ( a shipper scene i mean)

TPTB give us a break please!


Debbie:brickwall:

 

[Elsie]

Unfortunately i've read in another thread the actress who portrays Jordan was offered a 3-year contract:brickwall:
If you ask me is a BIG mistake. The CSI: junior high drama is already too much and it doesn't allow Melina to have her big storylines. Imagine if we add another woman/women to the combo

I've not read this contract thing before. Maybe they were mistaking her 3 episode contract with a 3 year contract? She's only be in one episode so far, and she would only be an occassional recurring character if she is back next season anyway? So the contract thing, in my opinion, doesn't really make much sense. Nor would another female character, unless she was a regular character/CSI, detract from Melina's screentime as far as I can see. It's a completely different role.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'junior high drama', but if you are referring to Danny/Lindsay/Rikki. Then 'Right Next Door' was mostly about Stella, and she seemed to get good enough screen time to me regardless of the other activities going on... Basically, I don't think Stella does too badly for screen time at all. It's an ensemble show, with two leads who do pretty well, of course Super!Mac gets the most storylines, but Stella does OK I think, it's the rest of the ensemble that I worry about.

 

[Gaelen]

Also, I think that Mac having two women who are 'friends with the possibility for something more' in his life is a bit much when Danny ALSO has two women in his life - Rikki and Lindsay. And around the same time too - my understanding is that Rikki and Lindsay are both in 418, and of course then Quinn and Jordan are both in 419.

Umm...no, Rikki is in 419, not in 418 (I think).

I really cant wait to see how the Danny/Lindsay/Rikki storyline works out. I have own reservations, but let's leave it at that. As for Jordan...I thought I read somewhere that they'd sign her to more episodes depending on viewers reactions - it's on her website, I'm not sure. I don't think it's a 3-year contract though... ::shrugs::

 

[Ghawazee]

Unfortunately i've read in another thread the actress who portrays Jordan was offered a 3-year contract:brickwall:
If you ask me is a BIG mistake. The CSI: junior high drama is already too much and it doesn't allow Melina to have her big storylines. Imagine if we add another woman/women to the combo

Nor would another female character, unless she was a regular character/CSI, detract from Melina's screentime as far as I can see. It's a completely different role.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'junior high drama', but if you are referring to Danny/Lindsay/Rikki. Then 'Right Next Door' was mostly about Stella, and she seemed to get good enough screen time to me regardless of the other activities going on... Basically, I don't think Stella does too badly for screen time at all. It's an ensemble show, with two leads who do pretty well, of course Super!Mac gets the most storylines, but Stella does OK I think, it's the rest of the ensemble that I worry about.

The best proof is what happened with Peyton around. Yes, Melina was still the female lead star but it didn't work. Her screentime was quite poor for a female star
And as MacsLady said Melina only gets ONE great episode per season. This season she has more screentime, thanks God, but it's quiet different to have BIG stories considering she is the female lead star
I don't mind episodes based on Mac because i like to heaven Gary Sinise and because he is the producer so it's totally natural he gets more important screentime

Regarding other actors, as Hawkes or Flack i said enough already. Because the soap opera (yes. I was talking about D/L and now R stuff)
during Season 2, 3 and part of 4 they didn't have the time they deserved as they had back in Season 1. That's the reason i miss so much that season.
Things were so easy. Mac and Stella were the real lead stars but all of them had time to shine. A great chemistry among them!

Debbie

 

[Railynn]

Does anyone know when we might get more spoilers for episode 21?? not much has been released.

 

[Top41]

I think Melina has had at least a couple of great episodes each season...last season alone she had "Open and Shut," "Heart of Glass," and "Cold Reveal." I hardly think she's neglected, and I don't think her only important relationship is or should be with Mac. I wish Stella could have a normal, non-psychotic love interest , but that's a separate issue. I've never felt like she was shafted in regards to storylines or screentime.

I imagine the three year contract thing is a typo or mistake of some sort with regards to Jordan. There's no way a character who isn't a CSI, a detective or an ME would be given a slot as a regular on a CSI show.

 

[MacsLady]

I think Melina has had at least a couple of great episodes each season...last season alone she had "Open and Shut," "Heart of Glass," and "Cold Reveal." I hardly think she's neglected, and I don't think her only important relationship is or should be with Mac. I wish Stella could have a normal, non-psychotic love interest , but that's a separate issue. I've never felt like she was shafted in regards to storylines or screentime.

*slaps head* I totally forgot about those episodes! So looking at it from that POV, I think Melina did really well last year. Actually, she got more storylines in s3 when Peyton was there, than in s1/s2 when she wasn't.

Ghawzee, while I agree that Melina gets less screentime than we personally think she deserves, I did think RND was an excellent storyline for her. And I don't think Peyton's introduction in s3 was responsible for any lack of screentime on Melina's part - Melina was in all 24 eps, and did get the three 'big' eps that Top mentioned, whereas Peyton only had 10 episodes, and never had a storyline all of her own. If anything pushes Melina's screentime down, I think it's more D/L stuff than any women in Mac's life. The women in Mac's life this season - Quinn and Jordan, aren't CSIs, and so they really don't get much screentime - Quinn has only been in two episodes, and Jordan is going to be in three. Even if Jessalyn does have a 3 year contract, that doesn't mean she's going to be in every episode. She might be like Peyton and be in 10 eps or something, and only have a couple of scenes each ep. But like Top said, I can't see that happening.

So to finish up, I think Top said makes the valid point that Melina does get some good screen time. With the exception of s1, I think Top's right when she says Melina does well for a lead on an ensemble show, one in which the writers try to give all the characters storylines. She doesn't get as much screentime/storylines as Mac does, but she gets more than Hawkes or Flack (don't get me started on that rant) But I agree with you that it would be nice if she got some more storylines, and I especially want to see ONE WHERE SHE IS NOT A VICTIM . I mean, RND was good in that she got to be Rambo!Stella, but practically every storyline she has had has involved her being the victim of someone or something - psycho boyfriends, an investigation, a fire. So it would be nice to see something else for her.

Top, I totally agree with you btw that it's about time Stella got a normal, non-psychotic love interest, or that her only important relationship is or should be with Mac. I'd love to see her relationship (friendship) with Flack that we saw in All Access and also her one with Hawkes that we saw in Raising Shane be developed, and for her to have some friends outside of the lab like Mac does. That goes both ways of course - Mac too should have other relationships with other people, other women, outside of the lab too. Mac and Stella's friendship and chemistry is so strong, that each having other important relationships wouldn't detract from it at all. Mac and Peyton's relatioship didn't, and nor did Stella's relationship with Frankie. In both s2 and s3, Stella and Mac still had their friendship and great chemistry - despite their both being involved in separate, important, romantic relationships.
....And is this getting off topic? Sorry! *slaps head*

 

[Elsie]

From Ask Ausiello:

Question: So, Danny went and cheated on Lindsay. Can you give the fans any good reason why we should still tune in to CSI: NY? — Gaelen K.

Ausiello: Here's one: Per a source close to NY, "Danny-Lindsay fans will be quite pleased with how the season ends for those two." In other news, Chris Meloni's doppelganger, Elias Koteas, has booked a flashy two-episode arc playing a bank robber who finds himself caught in the middle of a hostage situation. He'll appear in the season finale and in the fourth-season premiere next fall.

The D/L thing just isn't a surprise to me. But, nice that he answered your question Gaelen. And interesting info about the hostage situation...

 

[Dims]

Question: So, Danny went and cheated on Lindsay. Can you give the fans any good reason why we should still tune in to CSI: NY? — Gaelen K.

Ausiello: Here's one: Per a source close to NY, "Danny-Lindsay fans will be quite pleased with how the season ends for those two."

Liffie, you rock baby!!!!

and though i would like -really loveeee- to believe it...as it bodes well with Kristin's - we DL fans wont be dissapointed - how the hell is the season gonna end well for us when LInds is like NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE LAST EP? (sorry for the yelling)

 

[Elsie]

how the hell is the season gonna end well for us when LInds is like NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE LAST EP? (sorry for the yelling)

To be fair, there hasn't really been that many spoilers for the finale. And those that are around focus mostly on Mac in the bank, and by the sounds of it that storyline may well be an interesting cliffhanger. Just because Lindsay is not mentioned in the spoilers doesn't mean she won't be there, this is just the way that spoilers go sometimes...