CSI:NY Season 5 Spoiler Discussion - This City Never Sleeps

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I swear, if my local network pushes Criminal Minds and CSI:NY to the middle of the night in favor of a basketball game or something, I'm going to be so mad. They did it once before, and I think another city not-too-far from here is pushing them back. *glares at the TV* They'd better not...

Oh. My. God. I live in NJ, and although I was plenty happy that the Phillies won the World Series, I didn't need the "PHILLIES WIN! PHILLIES WIN! WATCH THESE FANS SCREAMING AT THE FIELD! WATCH THE WINNING PITCH 500 TIMES IN A ROW! WATCH MORE SCREAMING FANS!" the lasted for more than the entire hour CSI:NY was supposed to be on. If my shows are pushed because of sports again, I will probably write a hate letter to my local station... *mutters*

I'm glad that Hawkes is getting some more screentime. It seems like he has recently. If we have so many good characters, we should use them more, no? Seriously, NY, take some advice from Criminal Minds... at least in seasons 3 and 4, all of their characters get decent screentime. But I digress.
 
i don't know if this is even a spoiler as it already aired, but Gary Sinise was on the Bonnie Hunt show today. It didn't really have anything to do with csi:ny, more on his award from Pres. Bush, but it did show one little blip of tonights episode.

Mac is yelling at hawkes because Hawkes had been taken off the case and yet still felt the need to have adam run a compromised DNA sample, and Stella is standing in the background. (with any hope waiting for a chance to step in)

After the clip Gary goes, i'm really hostile there aren't i. And she gave him sliders!!!!!!! It was cute. =)

In other words, Mac is once again a posturing, egomaniacal hypocrite. Because Mac has never, ever pursued cases in which he has a personal stake. Oh, well, except for when Hawkes was framed for murder by Shane Casey, or the attack on Reed Garrett in his dorm, or when Reed was kidnapped by the Taxicab Killer, or Clay Dobson's suicide, or the 333 Killer. But for Mac it's okay because his integrity is unimpeachable. Not like those shifty, amoral subordinates with Something To Hide. Mac has no secrets. Oh, wait...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I so wish someone would call him on his bullshit.
 
It's clearly because she's sensitive. :lol:
I can see Lindsay being a crier "I'm sorry! I didn't know! Blame Danny he's a boy!!!:(" kinda thing.

She could do the Shriek eyes (the cat) and get away with anything. haha
Oh lord have mercy. :lol:

In other words, Mac is once again a posturing, egomaniacal hypocrite.
I guess we'll see how it plays out, but it's hard to imagine that he'd be so completely uncaring of the fact that Hawkes has such a personal connection to this case. If Hawkes has been removed or has removed himself from the case by that time, then they have to know that it involves his ex-girlfriend who was raped. So yeah, he shouldn't have had Adam run the DNA sample, but a little bit of understanding is in order.

I wonder if Adam is going to get a smackdown too?

If Mac actually apologizes, I'll pee my pants from shock. :eek: Of course, whether or not he does apologize remains to be seen.
 
^^ Let's hope he doesn't give Adam a smackdown, but (then again) this is Mac we're talking about... :lol:

Few hours... :D
 
It's not 'special treatment' if Lindsay isn't the only one that receives it. Duh. ;)

What chu talkin' bout, Willis?
:p I was just joking about the fact that the other characters have gotten reamed out by Mac for various and sundry offenses, but Lindsay is the only one that gets the 'I care more about you than the lab' addition afterwards.


Im confused i have seen all the episodes when has lindsay ever gotten the i care about you more than the lab....as far as i know she hasnt ever done anything that would cause her to be reamed out......i may have missed something though lol
 
Im confused i have seen all the episodes when has lindsay ever gotten the i care about you more than the lab....as far as i know she hasnt ever done anything that would cause her to be reamed out......i may have missed something though lol

Its season four near the end of the season, like water for murder, she leaves a piece of evidence unattended after she and danny have "a moment"

after her little reconstruction with the trunk mac brings it up.."i'm more worried about you." than evidence, really come on mac! your the evidence first guy.
 
^^Yeah, that's the moment, in "Like Water for Murder". The lab is under scrutiny because Quinn is there to evaluate the lab and determine if they should be re-accredited, and Lindsay walks off and leaves evidence unattended, breaking the chain of custody at a very bad time for the lab. Mac tells her she can't let her relationship with Danny affect her job - but he immediately turns around and tells her that he's more concerned about her than the lab. There's a time to be a friend and a time to be a boss, and it shouldn't be at the same time. If it had been a different person doing the evaluation (and not Quinn), her stomping off could have caused problems for the lab. It's annoying to see it swept under the rug because oh noez, sleeping with your co-worker turned out to be a bad idea. :rolleyes:

But I digress. :p In tonight's episode, I'm not sure that the DNA evidence was strictly a wrong move - I mean, it couldn't be used in court, but would just the mere act of running it cause any problems? I don't see why, but I could be wrong. Yet Mac refused to acknowledge that some understanding was in order since Hawkes was upset over the fact that this murderer had raped a woman he cared very deeply for. And heck, when Mac went to see him later on, it was all 'he's not worth it' and 'tell me if the evidence would hold up in court' - Sheldon was the one who made the conversation personal, if I remember correctly. Mac did show compassion, but it took a lot more to get to that point.

Basically, the rest of the team gets treated like adults (sometimes getting yelled at totally out of proportion with what's going on - such as Adam giving the lab results to Gerrard that one time), but it's like Lindsay gets handled with kid gloves. Is she a scientist and a grown woman or not, you know?

Oh well, I guess I expect too much - they can't even be consistent with Mac's reactions and when things are or aren't out of line or against the rules. :rolleyes:
 
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Just curious, why are they taking a 'guilty until proven innocent' approach with Flack when the Constitution guarantees the opposite, "innocent until proven guilty"?
 
Just curious, why are they taking a 'guilty until proven innocent' approach with Flack when the Constitution guarantees the opposite, "innocent until proven guilty"?


I'd guess that it would be because the NYPD will be under heavy scrutiny when a suspect dies while undergoing questioning with one of their officers. It's easier to try and throw one officer under the bus for the sake of the department than it is to have confidence in his innocence. But really, I don't think the promo shows that they are necessarily assuming he's guilty. I would imagine Flack being in the room alone with the suspect would be pretty damning, though, and can see why they'd take the "guilty until proven innocent" approach to their questioning. They're looking at the situation like Flack would look at a suspect and asking the tough questions to try and get an answer.
 
Yeah that makes sense, thanks

Who does Danny think betrayed the lab? I forgot to post about it earlier but I can't f figure out if he meant Stella or Pino.
 
^I'm pretty sure it's Pino Danny thinks betrayed the lab, if you're talking about 518.
 
I just saw that and had to refrain from ramming my head into a wall.

Stunt casting is so hip.

My best guess is they'll be in 5.18 "Point of No Return" - the description seems to fit characters from that episode, but I could be wrong.
 
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