"Sin City Blue" Discussion - *Spoilers*

Not really crazy about this episode. It's like the same old story, hookers or hooker types or children getting murdered. Also CSI has taught me to well, I am figuring out the ending almost from the beginning.

I did like seeing Catherine and Greg finally get the lead story, it is about time. I hope this pattern continues, I would like to see more of them for a change.

Okay now everyone is assuming Nick now has a girlfriend (I hope not, don't even want to see that happen). Here is a thought, we know how TPTB sometimes like to mess with us you know make us think one thing when it is totally something else, hopefully this is one of those times. Perhaps Nick wasn't talking to a girlfriend, maybe he was talking to Tina, Warrick's wife or ex wife, maybe on Nick's off days he helps Tina with Warrick's son, perhaps Nick is helping to see that the child gets raised right by being a positive role model or father figure to Warrick's son. This to me would be typical Nick and it would be something we never see in shows. I would love to see this scenerio instead of the predictable love interest garbage.

 

I'm new here on the boards so let me first start by saying "hello."
The episode was intriguing to me. I've held some suspensions on what the writers want to do with the story line and last night, they solidified my theories a bit more.

My Prediction:
I believe that this is all building up for us to find out the Dr. Jekyll is Ray Langston's father.
It seems like they've been hinting that Ray's father has a dark past, and I believe Ray has spoken about how good of a surgeon his dad was too.
I think that in the back of Ray's mind, he knows that it his father but he is afraid to fully realize it. This is the area I'm not sure about. This is where I need more solidification. If my theory is correct, why hasn't Ray investigated this angle more?

Thoughts?

-JMAinAZ

 

Last nights epi

1 Langston has officially gone on my ignore list he really has turned into a jerk NOT giving up DNA I actually started to wonder if he might be associated with the Dr. Jekyll scenarios maybe that is why he doesn't want to give it up but the lab can get it in other ways ( a cup, straw etc...)

2 I hate to say this but I think Nicky was talking to April( makes me sick )
but I did love in the end that he was using the Spanish again haven't heard it in a while and he makes it sound so good

3 Cath and Greg's case AWESOME!!!!!

4 Dustin's cameo was great I had to rewatch it to make sure I saw it correctly

 

Like many posters, I did enjoy watching Greg and Catherine in this epi. Other than that, it didn't hold a lot of interest for me.
I did enjoy the technical effects in this one: the toilet draining from floor to floor, the total body dusting for prints by Catherine, and the hand print near the end.
I'm sorry, but the whole Dr. Jekyll storyline holds no interest for me. It's too forced. How could Ray even think Dr. Jekyll with a large surgical scar on the victim? Dr. Jekyll's signature is a small laparoscopic incision. And the not-giving-up-my-DNA by Ray is a way too obvious plot device.
Overall, not bad, but a pretty average episode. I would have liked it much better without the Dr. Jekyll stuff thrown in.

 

The phone conversation didn't sound too casual for scheduling a date. I'm sure, if it was April, they've been dating for awhile now and the tone would be right.

As for April, I don't think people HATED April, we don't like the actress that is portraying her. There was no chemistry. I didn't have a problem with the character.

So I don't think he was talking to Tina. That actually would have been a good idea, but if they were talking to her they would have let us know.

Besides Nick is suppose to get a love interest so I'm sure that was her he was talking too.

 

This DNA thing is strange. Wouldn't all the CSIs and labrats have to have theirs on file so that analyses wouldn't get slowed down by having to re-identify them in case of contamination?
Like fingerprints, if the tests can rule them out right off, a lot of time is saved. What's up with Langston? :shifty:
LaSquisita

 

I think I need to watch it again, but here are my thoughts so far...

I love the Catherine/Greg interaction. I'm not sure i like the 'new and improved Greg'. He's not the funny, quirky, lab geek that he once was, but he has learned to control his temper which is probably a good thing around Catherine.
I do like them working together, he's proving himself and that's a good thing considering all he's been through.

So the case was predictable. I never figured those girls to be hookers and I hated all the CSI's using the word hookers over and over. Couldn't they come up with something else to describe the two dead young women? That part rubbed me wrong.
I did like Cath's attitude toward the perp. She was not caring what so ever that he was married and about all the statistics that he was throwing around. You could tell she was disgusted with his actions, he was looking for some sympathy but in the end, CSI prevailed.

The B case was also sort of boring. Well boring that we knew the guy wasn't going to be Dr. Jekyll. He was someone who wanted to reform health care by doing his part. Can't blame him really.... but of course they had to make a model out of him. And leave it to Ray to be just the guy to extend his clinic services. Who didn't see that coming???

As for Ray not giving up his DNA, I'm with the other poster who said that possibly Ray's father is Dr.Jekyll. It could be true since we know that Ray's father is still alive, has a temper and Ray it seems doesn't want to have anything to do with him. This could be Ray's father's way of getting his attention so to speak. Or Ray is afraid of turning out just like him. It's the old adage, if you don't ask the question, you never learn the answer...

I'll have to weigh in on the Nick/girlfriend thing later after I rewatch.

 

I'm sticking to my theory:

Dr. Jekyll is Ray Langston's Father.

 

OUTSTANDING again, the writers never cease to amaze me, excellent episode, from the beginning to the end:bolian: Some highlights and my opinions on this epsode~

The opening with the guy fleeing and the helicopter tailing him~

Nick..Vega and Ray, finding surgical waste and human organs, gross, and the dead boy. Nick: "What are the chances there's another sierial killer out there? Ray: "NO, this is a Dr. Jekyll" Nick: Dr. Frankenstein had Igor, Dr. Jekyll had Juan" Nick and Ray, work so well together, so in tune LF has a powerful aura "tantalizing"~

Brass, Greg and Cath finding the body of a girl in the hallway of a hotel, and Super Dave checking her vitals~

Nck and Ray, again [he's a quick study] very bright and learns fast~finds card from "Botanical Ventura"~

Cath and Greg questioning 'guests' Cool to see them also working together~

Brass talks to bartender and finds that the two girls were in fact 'con-artists' working to steal CC's and pin numbers from guys~

Cath and Greg sealing the girl in a hermitcal sealed contraption. I've never seen that before, Interesting~

Vegas [he's so cool] interogating Juan, he was paid to dump the waste in the mtns. Some guy in a parking lot paid him $20 to drive the trash and dump it~

Doc, watching Ray, "He's talking to you" Ray: "Yes, sometimes I wished they'd tell me more"

He tied the kids incision to the other two organ removal. Ray: "He's operating on the inside and the outside"

Cath then dusting blue powder all over the dead girl. I never saw that before either, fascinating~

The team going to the herbal store Henry said the meds were from Mexico~

Vegas to owner Jeffery, shows warrant and he goes into some tirade about the Myans. Ray goes "We're not here for a history lesson" The go into the back room, where Ray suspectsd the grout in the tile had been replaced, This little experiment reminded me of something Grissom would do. He finds blood amonst the grout powder~ Ray "Edward Gomez died here"

Brass and Greg find the other girl Jillian buried under and beneath the box springs EWWW gross Brass: "She's definately not sleeping it off":lol:

Doc and Cath go over the 2nd girls body Karen~

Wendy and Ray, and his refusal to give her a DNA sample, what's up with that? So he's got secrets that as of now we know nothing of

Nick goes over to vics. house tells his mom the horrible news~

Ray with Jeffery, I've never seen him so mad and so ticked off, and he shoved the pictures of the other two victims that were mulitated and he goes " I don't know them", I help the poor etc. Ray clams down [great acting]

Cath and Greg with the flushed down the toilet dress. intriguing again~

So, the man Mr. Fiore killed both girls, suffocated one with a plastic wastepaper basket and her buddy stashed her body under the mattress~

Mr. Fiore to Cath "The were just useless criminals" Cath "They were human beings, your the worthless criminal"

Ray walks in on Nick, on the phone it seemed with a girl, [hopefully more on that down the line] Ray askes Nick a favor [he speaks better Spanish then Ray] printed out some Mexican fliers for the poor. Nick goes 'it's not Hughes" Ray goes "we can get him for other things" Ray also volunteers at the free clinic, and said "he had the right ideas" I ends up with Nick, happy and flashing his captivating smile

So, who is Dr. Jekyll,? this is compelling, mysterious and interesting, somewhat lie S/7, and the Minature Killer. I like the continuity of stories on the show> Laurence Fishburne is awesome, and doing such a stupendous job on CSI. I give this one another A+:thumbsup:

 

Just pointing this out but....that was detective Cavaliere interviewing the suspect in Spanish. Det. Vega wasn't in this episode.

Not a bad theory.

 

Thank's ladyunter I always mix up those two Dets. Vega and and the other one~ & I think that Dr. Langstons father is dead. He was going over his war medals at one time, and that's the impression I gathered. So if he's dead it couldn't be him. His fingerprints are in the data base, and it might be something no one has thought of yet~