^ yeah i agree with all of that - that whole "you'd do it if you loved me" thing has always really annoyed me - i know so many people who ended up doing stuff they regretted because that ridiculous line was trotted out. the only decent response is "and if you loved me you wouldn't make me do something i wasn't ready for/didn't want to do" - it's a real shame that sex is ridiculously overstated in everything - like you say it seems to be seen as the most important indicator of a person's (and society's) value, which is really sad.
as for domestic violence, it's a really sad state of affairs where it's so easy to make the woman (obviously recognising that sometimes dv happens the other way around of course) feel like the guilty party, and yet still managing to blame them for not leaving - it's a very very common attitude and it pisses me off no end! i think that's probably a different rant but there's definitely an element about it of it's better to be with a total bastard than on your own - which is really sad, what does it say about collective self esteem if you have a world full of people who can't stand being alone? obviously being with other people is normal but it's not right that you should be seen as some kind of freak if you are alone (and happy) or that it should be seen as better to be with someone who treats you like shit than to be alone. it's one of my pet hates!
also sex before marriage is a weird one - i can see the reasoning behind it but isn't it better to know someone properly before you commit to them for the rest of your life?!!
you're right about kids - also there's a massive sexualisation of kids that i think has happened very recently (certainly in my lifetime) - kids (ok, girls, boys never suffered with this so much) can get make up and short skirts and crop tops that make them look like mini popstars, and then there's all this outrage about how paedophilia is on the rise. i'm not a blame assigner, i don't mean that by dressing kids like that you encourage it (because paedophiles will do what they do regardless), but it seems a real shame when kids look like mini adults and as a result become much more aware of things like sex, drugs, alcohol etc at a much younger age. when i was 13 i was still climbing trees and making dens in ditches, but i know a lot of 13 year olds who go out drinking all night at least once a week, smoking and if not having sex then getting very close. it makes me sad - once you hit 21 everything goes downhill fast anyway, kids should make the most of being kids!
i'm ranting too...
ps - Ajbuckly who said the quote in your signature? i lost faith in both a long time ago, but i like it anyway!
:guffaw::guffaw:Now you made me return to this tread despite the fact I was not comming in here at all....
The qoute is from Criminal Minds. Alas the episode nr and name is gone to forgottenland as the characters name.
With this tread we have open Pandoras box. As teenagepregnancies is related to belief, sex and parenting which is so emontial related.
Let me just state:
Your view on sex will define wether or not you aprove sex before marriage IMO; I must stress
IMO
If like Queen E. you see sex as a duty. Then don´t have sex before marriage. No need to know it could be different.
If sex is your main source of pleasure(spelling sorry). Then DVD and Tv offers you endless hours of happiness. You will however forego the emtional side as "having sex" with your tv is cost- ,bonding- and emotionel free.
If sex is an added pleasure to your life/relationship. Do you owe it to yourself and your partner to know that you like? I am back at -" if you get a partner that likes to dress up as a baby or get smack S/M -style" .
Will you ever be a happy couple? If you watch CSI you know sex comes in many forms and that a lot of people hiding their preferences. Would you like to wake up with someone who goes to others behind your back?
Eventhough psycologicists have abonded Erikssons stadies of life. They still acknowlegde that we all have mid-lifecrisis and male midlife crisis´s often involve a younger wife and a motorbike. Go see "American Beaty" you will know what I am talking about. So sex and passing of gens is biologically incoded in humans.
BUT the way we express, value and have sex is a personel choice.
AND - again
IMO feel free to express yours but this is my- as a society we are promoting sex as a trading good(?).
As a soicety we watch "Paradise hotel" and so forth. Where sex is the purpose of the show or underlying premise(?)- just watch the adds inbetween -.Most shocking to me: We invented a pill for old guys to have sex before the cure for cancer.
You doubt me: tjek the sum of money spend on Viagradevelopment as to the amount spend on breastcancer.:wtf:.
I once watch a show with an religious couple that was going to wait until they were married. They didn´t have to watch any mid - night movie or go on "Paradis hotel". They were happy as can be. And let them....But they are NOT the majority of teens. And as you stated they are NOT completly the norm as to religious teens. Indeed-- if you went across country or the world you would saded by the fact that religious teens often use bleach, coathangers or hit themself in the belly(?) in order to abort.
As long as we (humans) are different we will have different opions as to why teens get pregant and whether or not we should wait. IMO as an adult I morn the fact that sexturism excists and that women are traded every day in order to please someone.
Being a teen is a great age. They are full of hormons and life. They are often full of hope and a lust for living. And adults can´t and/or should not control their teens 100%. But could we and should we start promote other things then just "Dude,Where is my car? " "Zack and Miri make a Porn" or "Paradis hotel"?
I need to stress that with my post I am generalizing - I am aware that in the narrative that is our life we all have different stories to tell.
Now see that was a rant if ever I saw one:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
