"Unleashed" Discussion **SPOILERS**

[Speedystokesgirl]

Well I find that a woman who runs a bordello, where girls are murdered and has people who whip other people into submission, by tying them up and beating them with chains, not the brightest tool in the box. That just comes across as seedy and sleazy. And then goes from that to a "sex-thearpist":vulcan: as our writer in the enterainment section said "only on TV". Now Grissom was intelligent, but a nerd in the romantic department. And as the writers showed, they didn't have contact for like 4-5 years. Friends stay in touch more often then that, I would think. And on fooling or conning someone, Brass wasn't either as the last words he said to her in "TGTBATD" were "get some help", as she sat there in her western garb So maybe she does need some help. I've never in my life heard of someone who needed a "sex thearpist".

First, she didn't run a bordello, there was no sex and the women/men that worked there were not prostitutes.

The people who are the submissives are the ones who are ACTUALLY in control, it's not the dominate and the submissive chose that. Some people need the pain in their life, some people who always have to be in control NEED to give that control up sometimes.

The don't beat people into submission, the person chose the submissive part and they are not 'beaten'. The submissive has a safe word and if gets to be too much they say the safe word and everything STOPS!

She provided a safe environment for that happen.

If you're not in their world then you really don't understand it and it's, obviously, you don't know nothing about that world. I guess it's true: 'Ignorance is bliss'

As for people being murdered there, you can murdered at any place of business and really in the dominatrix clubs today murder doesn't happen.

Lady Heather is a very intelligent business woman and who is able to read people and tell how they are without really knowing them. I am able to do that at times.

Just because you don't know anyone who needs a sex therapist doesn't mean people don't need one. It is a legitimate profession and doesn't just deal with just sex. Again: Ignorance is bliss.

Sara is acting as any woman who is has to deal with a woman from their's husband's/boyfriend's past. You don't like and you have to deal with it and since Grissom and Heather are still friends it would bug her even more.

Then again, if it does bug Sara then she isn't so confident in her relationship with Grissom.

 

[vegaslights]

Well I find that a woman who runs a bordello, where girls are murdered and has people who whip other people into submission, by tying them up and beating them with chains, not the brightest tool in the box. That just comes across as seedy and sleazy. And then goes from that to a "sex-thearpist":vulcan: as our writer in the enterainment section said "only on TV". Now Grissom was intelligent, but a nerd in the romantic department. And as the writers showed, they didn't have contact for like 4-5 years. Friends stay in touch more often then that, I would think. And on fooling or conning someone, Brass wasn't either as the last words he said to her in "TGTBATD" were "get some help", as she sat there in her western garb So maybe she does need some help. I've never in my life heard of someone who needed a "sex thearpist".

First, she didn't run a bordello, there was no sex and the women/men that worked there were not prostitutes.

The people who are the submissives are the ones who are ACTUALLY in control, it's not the dominate and the submissive chose that. Some people need the pain in their life, some people who always have to be in control NEED to give that control up sometimes.

The don't beat people into submission, the person chose the submissive part and they are not 'beaten'. The submissive has a safe word and if gets to be too much they say the safe word and everything STOPS!

She provided a safe environment for that happen.

If you're not in the world then you really don't understand it and it's, obviously, you don't know nothing about that world. I guess it's true: 'Ignorance is bliss'

Speedy, are you saying you're 'in' the world?

:lol:

 

[Speedystokesgirl]

Speedy, are you saying you're 'in' the world?

:lol:

:lol: Oops, fixed now! Thanks!

And no, I'm not in that world.

 

[MacsGirlMel]

Oh, ok. I musta really misread his words LOL.

 

[Dizzney]

I like what you said Speedy, about Heather and her world. It is pretty true from what I hear about that world.

Anyway, I still know this episode will be a one time watch for me. With two main cast missing (Catherine and Greg), I just can't get behind it that much. Plus with the fact that Haskell will be brought up yet again (and for the rest of the season), it'll just be one time thing for me.

 

[PraetorCorvinus]

I think it's kinda funny that we're already on page 7 for this thread and the episode hasn't even aired yet. :lol:

 

[sharp52092]

I think it's kinda funny that we're already on page 7 for this thread and the episode hasn't even aired yet. :lol:

I know isn't it :lol: What page will be on by Sunday I wonder

I agree with you too Speedy I'm sure Sara trusts Griss and their marriage and all but as Carly told Jax on General Hospital a few years ago "I trust you, it's her I don't trust" which I can understand

Count me in as another Heather fan and this while being 100% pro Grissom and Sara.

To me she is one of the most intriguing, multi faceted characters on Tv. I admire her self confidence, honesty and how unapologetic she is about her choices, her quietness, intuition and how non judgmental she is. In fact, very much like Grissom.

I too believe she and Grissom slept together way back. In fact I believe that is how Grissom arrived at his views on 'sex without love making you sad'. I don't see what the big deal is, considering it happened long before he and Sara became a couple. Plus, wasn't Sara involved with some guy for an entire season?

I am quietly confident that tonight's episode is going to be great and hopefully surprise a lot of people in a positive way.

So am I, hope your right about the surprise part, and that could be on Grissom's view of sex with love

I can't always make up my mind if Griss and Heather ever happened, I can honestly see it going either way

I always thought of Lady Heather as a female Grissom.

In some ways yes she is

 

[MacsGirlMel]

Yeah, I can see Sara not trusting her all the way. Hence the cattiness.

I do think it's only natural they're playing up the GSR angle since LH is back.

 

[Desertwind]

Well I find that a woman who runs a bordello, where girls are murdered and has people who whip other people into submission, by tying them up and beating them with chains, not the brightest tool in the box. That just comes across as seedy and sleazy. And then goes from that to a "sex-thearpist":vulcan: as our writer in the enterainment section said "only on TV". Now Grissom was intelligent, but a nerd in the romantic department. And as the writers showed, they didn't have contact for like 4-5 years. Friends stay in touch more often then that, I would think. And on fooling or conning someone, Brass wasn't either as the last words he said to her in "TGTBATD" were "get some help", as she sat there in her western garb So maybe she does need some help. I've never in my life heard of someone who needed a "sex thearpist".

First, she didn't run a bordello, there was no sex and the women/men that worked there were not prostitutes.

The people who are the submissives are the ones who are ACTUALLY in control, it's not the dominate and the submissive chose that. Some people need the pain in their life, some people who always have to be in control NEED to give that control up sometimes.

The don't beat people into submission, the person chose the submissive part and they are not 'beaten'. The submissive has a safe word and if gets to be too much they say the safe word and everything STOPS!

She provided a safe environment for that happen.

If you're not in the world then you really don't understand it and it's, obviously, you don't know nothing about that world. I guess it's true: 'Ignorance is bliss'

Speedy, are you saying you're 'in' the world?

:lol:

Yeah some can keep believing this crock, no sex:lol: and it was a brothel, even Nick thought it was awful, and people's ages in life determine how they perceive things and when the get older realize what they were hoodwinked and what they thought was way off the mark. And I've been around the block more than you know. and it's not ignorance, but reality and good taste. But some still have teenage thinking. Safe enviornment:guffaw:, And I don't need a detailed description of the ep. I actually watched it and was turned off, low life and cheap. Whips and chains are not classy. I lived in Vegas and saw things that were similar, you wouldn't believe:wtf: .. and a smart, strong women would never lower herself in that atmosphere, but become a CEO, or a high classed rep etc. in a high class company other peoples beliefs are not my concerns:bolian:

 

[Speedystokesgirl]

Yeah some can keep believing this crock, no sex:lol: and it was a brothel, even Nick thought it was awful, and people's ages in life determine how they perceive things and when the get older realize what they were hoodwinked and what they thought was way off the mark. And I've been around the block more than you know. and it's not ignorance, but reality and good taste. But some still have teenage thinking. Safe enviornment:guffaw:, And I don't need a detailed description of the ep. I actually watched it and was turned off, low life and cheap. Whips and chains are not classy. I lived in Vegas and saw things that were similar, you wouldn't believe:wtf: .. and a smart, strong women would never lower herself in that atmosphere, but become a CEO, or a high classed rep etc. in a high class company other peoples beliefs are not my concerns:bolian:

It is ignorance as you, obviously, have no idea about that world. I don't have teenage thinking as I am not a teenager. If you've been around the block, as you say, they would know what goes on. I'm also, not hoodwinked or think I am. Nick didn't think it was awful, he just didn't understand it either back then. (He was rather naive at times)

Sorry to burst your bubble, BUT it was not a brothel. Seriously, you need to look up the definition of a brothel. :lol: Brothel employes prostitutes and is just for sexual pleasure. Her place was not that and your answer shows you don't know that world.

As for smart, strong woman not lowering herself to that :wtf: ... you really have no clue what woman will do and what they do in private; including CEOs and the like. There was nothing wrong in what Lady Heather did. ALL people have fetishes and she provided a safe place for people who like BDSM. Sure sex could have went on there, but I doubt it. Especially if her place was located in Clark County. Brothels are illegal there.

 

[vegaslights]

"Ending Happy" had a brothel. Lady H did not work in a brothel.

 

[electra]

Well, I agree that LH is one of the best characters of CSI.Like Catherine said once, she can beat Grissom at mental chess and that is never boring for me.We will have to see how her interactions with Ray are, but there is tough competition given her and Grissom chemistry. And again,there is no Catherine here..But I will try at least.

 

[myfuturecsi]

Wow..I would have enjoyed this episode a lot more had Nick's storyline not seemed so rush.

It was crammed in and I really didn't care for Langston's storyline.

Nevertheless, Nick's storyline was awesome. Very well done. George did a great job as usual.

 

[Desertwind]

Lady Heather ran a BROTHEL what did you fans think this was? it was also a S&M place. What went down there gawd knows, but not pretty. I can't wait to see how Ray puts her in her place with his cool demeanor.. he's the best at that:thumbsupn this site, scroll down a bit to see Lady Heather and what happened there


http://www.cracked.com/article_18436_7-actors-typecast-in_bizarrely-specific-roles_p2.html

 

[Smokey]

Puts her in her place for what??! And she did not run a brothel.

Anyway, he didn't. He went to her for help and they are both on the same wavelength about this Haskell deal. She was pretty no-nonsense about it.

I actually like that case better than I thought I would. The whole human pet thing was silly, but I liked Ray and Sara and Heather.

But I loved Nick and Doc's case! Even Ecklie was good, and Brass too.