"The List" Discussion *Spoilers*

Hahahaha that makes three of us!:guffaw:

Make that four LOL. I think that was the intent of the writers though.
Me five! :lol: I keep wondering what kind of witty response Cath would have had to his comment if she was there instead of Ray. She had some other great one-liners in this eppy. She was getting on a roll!

And add six and seven here... husband and I nearly choked on our drinks when Robbins made that comment. Heck I think even my dog Chaim got a laugh out of it, it got a few tail thumps out of it! :guffaw:
 
Prescription glasses...?? yeah.. NO!! @DJRideout: it's very nice of you to try to make an excuse for him though. I'm trying to keep an open mind about Ray but.. Can you even see the evidence with that thing on Ray? and what's with the shouting?

Anyway.. for a Sara less episode, this is one of the good one. When Brass' name came up on that list.. well.. this is going to be interesting. So Brass, Ecklie, and Vartann had been with the same woman...:alienblush: can't get that image out of my head now...
 
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You know... it's funny that you're having trouble getting that out of your head too. During the commercials after the reveal of Brass, Ecklie, Vartann (and many others) being on that list, my husband kept bringing up something we'd both heard in health classes as teenagers... the whole, when you're intimate with someone - in essence it's like you're being intimate with everyone they were with in the past. ::snort:: So he kept saying... "So this means, in essence, Catherine's been with Ecklie..." ::facepalm:: The science of the statement is so wrong, but does have an amusing impact none-the-less.
 
Good episode. Catherine was shown as the great leader she is and it was a good ensemble episode.There were so many funny lines and good character moments as well.I do like Ray but is like the writers do not know what to do with him.I was :wtf: in many of his scenes.
 
I for one think Ray's behavior (barking orders at the inmates) was very appropriate to the situation - say what you will, the inmates (more or less) obeyed him right from the first "Listen up!" I expected a little aside with Ray explaining he'd worked as a CO at some point.

However, Vartann gets the best like of the episode at the end. (Spoiler warning)

Ann-Marie: "Aw, c'mon, Jimmy. you wouldn't shoot an unarmed woman, would you?"
Vartann: "I think he'd shoot you; I know I would."
 
What's up with how "thuggy" CSI has gotten lately? Ray goes all Rambo on the prison guys...he and Nick doing some throwing paper act at the prison. Interrogation room thug? wtf..Makes me miss the days of Grissom so badly..he'd have some insightful thing to say and he'd spend half the episode musing on the criminal/sexual mind...sigh.

Good episode, though. Just didn't feel like CSI...actually it felt more like NCIS..
 
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What's up with how "thuggy" CSI has gotten lately? Ray goes all Rambo on the prison guys...he and Nick doing some throwing paper act at the prison. Interrogation room thug? wtf..Makes me miss the days of Grissom so badly..he'd have some insightful thing to say and he'd spend half the episode musing on the criminal/sexual mind...sigh.

Good episode, though. Just didn't feel like CSI...actually it felt more like NCIS..

I did think about what Grissom's reaction would have been when the prison guard made the warning comment about flipping their jackets around and most of the guys being in there because of them. All I could picture was him being silent and just raising his eyebrow as though the idea intrigued him. :lol:

I didn't have a problem with Nick though. He's been rough with suspects before so I don't think it's too far of a stretch to see him throwing their crap around.
 
I really enjoyed this one, one of my faves of the season so far.

I agree about Ray's yelling, seemed unnecessary.

Loved Greg running through the hall scene and Cath's stripper comment. Very funny!

All in all a really good episode. Really good use of the cast.
 
I thought this episode was excellent as always. WOW, never had this kind of issues to deal with. All the team were spectatular, from the beginning till the end. A recap from me~

The chaotic prison scene. I wonder where they filmed this what prison?

Showing Ray, Brass & Nick and Ray running amok:eek: He's run the gamut from happy, sad, mad, friendly, sweet, kind, gentle, caring and in this scene one bad a.. Such a powerful presence like Carol Mendelsohn said "his incredible acting range" [the main reason they choose him] My gal pal who watched it goes 'He's so charismatic". He wore the sunlasses because either he wanted to or the writers thought it was appropriate. NO matter he's just damn good. He takes my breath away:p What always comes to mind is his and the teams bonding so comfortable and so together, like he's always been part of the team~

So Vance the corrections officer for killing his ex. wife Anne-Marie. Ray:: "Why is he in the general population"? the warden said because he's was going to get a new trial. Ray "Now listen up, I want you DNA you sneakers etc. this was a cop and there will be consequences, prison will not protect you"? Go Ray:thumbsup:Brass smirking on the side lines, like good job:cool:

What a bunch of creeps, bottom of the barrel. Nick collecting DNA samples. anthe Aryan freak after taking off his shirt to Ray. "you like what you see"? Ray: "Take off your pants Adolf , and I'll tell you, want some help ":alienblush:

Doc and Dave Vance had 27 wounds over kill to say the least. Whoa, Dave about prison and Doc saying "I'll put that in my report, life behind bars sucks". Cath enters she goes "I'll have to wait for it to come out on CD" How he used to be a good looking guy, but you wouldn't want to cross him.

Nick finds the "LIST" megas police and det. on it and all of a sudden there's Brass "Find anything interesting" They discuss Anne-Marie and how beautiful she was Brass: "She would make a man do alot of things he's regret" Nick's expresssions awesome, without letting on that Brass is on the list~

Ray and Greg going over video and reinacting it Ray:"This was a hit"~

Brass interogating Thomas Molina, he tells Brass "the hit was a favor for somebody"

Nick comes to Cath's office shuts the door and tell her about the list. Cath knew about Anne-Marie and her bourdoir escapades, and the guys going "atta boy" then he mentions Lou, she blows it off with "ancient history", and tells Nick to make copies.

Brass tells them about him and Anne-Marie, and New Orleans and how sexy she was then Ecklie tells his story EWWW,"dinner and one thing led to another, and they got a room at the Gold Coast":rommie: [I used to hang out there] run-of-the-mill Casino:rolleyes: lots of the native of Vegas go there~

Ray and Nick a the prison Nick finds a joint, and goes to Manuel "Are you on medical marijuana"? and Ray finds a cell phone "Are you on the family plan, cell phones can be expensive":shifty:

Anne-Marie had visited Vance NIck goes to visit her she wants to know where her sister is buried she made up the list and goes "Anne-Marie could make any guy crazy" She was going to leave Vance and had found "the one", but didn't know who it was.

Cath and Lou in coffee shop. I see absoulutely ziltch between them at all it seems to be scripted and forced, and she alwaye talks down to him they don't seem to see eye-to-eye on anything, except maybe in the bedroom. She 3rd degrees him and he does admit the affair with AM, and how he should have recused himself from the case. he goes to Cath "When Warrick was killed, did you recuse yourself"? [good point]. I don't think Cath ever got over Warrick they had chemistry and sizzled:p Lou gets annoyed "If this inquistion is over" and splits~

Caht tells Greg to pull her file and he finds the blood was not right it didn't clot~

Lucas Martin's name surfaces Nick "at least now we know where to look"

Brass, Nick, Greg and Cath at an old [what was this place]?:confused: Ecklie shows up with his charming demeanor, he's so snarky. Greg about "The List' and Nick goes "I think your familar with it" Conrad Don't be a smart ass Stokes":lol:

Cath was so cool with all of Ecklie's questions the sniffer dogs find something Lucas shows, tells Cath "Screw you bitch" she goes as smooth as ever, without skipping a beat "I think you mean Screw you CSI Willows" :wtf: Nick kicks in the door and lo-and-behold there's Jody dead.

Doc and Ray Doc enters and goes to Ray "Go ahead and start without me, Mrs. Robbins always does":confused: Ray ignore his comment and he goes I was talking about dinner"

Lucus and Brass on the gun "I sold it to a guy out of state" Brass "Well now it's in state, maybe it got homesick":guffaw:

Ray with Carlos, he gets in his face on on his case he's so magnetic:eek: but does badger him to get info. from him~

Greg running down the hallway and knocks stuff over Cath 'Running from another stripper"[that's cold] Greg: "A burlesque dancer, that's not funny":confused:

So Anne-Marie is alive and kicking Brass with Lucas, how he loved her yada-yada-yada and they framed Vance. he'd been sending $1,000 a month to Mexico in the name of an orphanage. & claened out Jody's bank account. when he told her he was retiring she ended the calls and he didn't know where she was.~She dumped his butt and how he's given her the gun for protection. Enter Jared Malone a CO he contacts AM the meet but he's called the CSI's so finally someone took her down:wtf:

So we see her, she is stunning, pretty, but had no morals, no conscience a seductive slut. The last scene with Lou and Brass still playing her flirty games and tried to chummy up to both "lets see how many men are on the jury" and snuggles up and gives Brass a slight kiss:evil: Brass you rascal you..

I enjoyed the whole episode the team were all fantastic, again the writers the best in the business:bolian:
 
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Here's a link to the GOLD COAST CASINO, that Ecklie mentioned in his banter with Brass and Cath where him and Anne-Marie stayed. It's medium priced, not cheap but not expensive either. Locals go there, it's got pretty loose slots:bolian:

http://www.goldcoastcasino.com/
 
Finally got to watch and I really enjoyed the ep. Good ensemble working case- I love when the team's altogether. Missed Sara, but I like to think she sees the old husband once in a while, so... ;)

I gotta say, Doc Robbins was actually my fave this episode. He had some hilarious lines with Ray and with David. I was giggling out loud! And I know people either love or hate Ray, but I'm just a plain old liker. :lol: I liked his "attitude" in the prison- I mean, look at what he taught in university- he himself is obviously a student of human nature. He knew that you need to be an alpha in these situations, so he went with it. Seemed to me like any smart teacher: when you're in front of the class, you play the role. Now, add to that being a black man standing in front of a bunch of white supremists? Anyway, I got it. And as for comparisons with Grissom- well, Gil would have observed and commented. Ray seems more of a learn and utilize sort of guy. Both work for me.

In the end, anything that sort of surprises me on this show these days makes me happy- it's hard to keep people on their toes after 11 years, so I'm all for changing it up once in a while.

I love Catherine, but it seems like she won't go out of her way to offer even a touch of sensitivity to poor Vartan. I know, I know... business is business, but c'mon- either she cares about the guy enough or she doesn't. I'm not feeling it from her.

Nice to see Dina Meyer, but her character was just a little too Mata Hare/over the top for me. Whatever, it worked for the endgame of the story, I guess. The only thing that sort of bothered me was the way Nick and Ray were chucking things out of the cells... seemed a little extra callous for two guys that are normally pretty fair, but in the end I chalked it up to this being a "cop killer" case, and that tends to make their colleagues act a little differently.

Anyhoo, good episode. Much better than the last Beiber one, in my opinion.
 
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