**Spoiler Lab** Season 8 - Hot Off The Magic City Presses!

[Delynn]

ya know what the "all the CSI's falling" down kinda reminds me of, ring around the rosy. Because at the very end of the chan there's that one line - "and we all fall down"

Me too, jontogoisabeast! (Love your name, btw. )

It's also interesting because in some places it is believed (in error) that the song "Ring Around the Rosy" is in reference to the Black Plague of the 14 century.

The "ring around the rosy" is said to refer to the marks that appeared on the skin of victims during the progression of the disease.

The "pocket full of posies" is referenced in several ways. Posy was supposed to ward off the plague, help to cover the overwhelming smell of the dead laying in the streets and it was also sometimes buried with the dead.

"Ashes, ashes" is supposed to refer to the bodies being cremated so that all that remained were the ashes. Also the burning of plague victims houses and the black discoloration of the skin of those who fell victim. It was also said to refer to the sneezing sound, as the one of the symptoms of the plague was sneezing.

"They all fall down" refered to the dead lying in the streets - everywhere. Over 25 million died before it was all over.

So this title really did make me think of the many incorrect references through the years to the origination of the song "Ring Around the Rosie" and if it held any significance to the episode.

 

[mjszud]

^^ Myself & another member here discussed this same thought a few weeks ago. It'd be interesting if the nursery ryhme was part of the puzzle.

 

[jontogoisabeast]

Ya i was studying the Pneumonic Plague for science and I clicked on an article that brought up something about the Black Death and the song and I was freaking out 'cause it reminded me of the title of the episode

 

[mjszud]

Ya i was studying the Pneumonic Plague for science and I clicked on an article that brought up something about the Black Death and the song and I was freaking out 'cause it reminded me of the title of the episode

Pheunomic Plague would be an interesting twist (though a wee bit scary), if this is the case in the finale.

 

[mjszud]

Sorry for the double post.

Finale stuff from TVGuide.com

May 24, CBS
Horatio & Co. track a serial killer who taunts the CSIs with numerous clues and bodies. Guest star Esai Morales plays the killer's apparent next target. Horatio, meanwhile, will still be reeling from what co-executive producer Barry O'Brien calls "the most dramatic betrayal in Horatio Caine's career." The end result of that betrayal may mean the end of several CSIs' careers.

Strange... I thought the whole betrayal thing would be wrapped up in epi 23.

 

[GregNickRyanFan]

Sorry for the double post.

Finale stuff from TVGuide.com

May 24, CBS
Horatio & Co. track a serial killer who taunts the CSIs with numerous clues and bodies. Guest star Esai Morales plays the killer's apparent next target. Horatio, meanwhile, will still be reeling from what co-executive producer Barry O'Brien calls "the most dramatic betrayal in Horatio Caine's career." The end result of that betrayal may mean the end of several CSIs' careers.

Strange... I thought the whole betrayal thing would be wrapped up in epi 23.

I think it will be, its just that ep 23 hasn't aired yet, so they're lumping info for the final two eps together.

 

[squinn1201]

I hope this is the right place to post this *spoiler" news. It's from the new TV Guide dated May 3-9~

DOOM OVER MIAMI
May is not a good month to be working for the Miami Dade Police Department. Eric Delko [Adam Rodriguez] returns to duty in this May 3rd ep., but when important evidence goes missing from the lab, it becomes clear that he isn't working for Horatio [David Caruso] "Delko is saddled with the task of investigating Horatio's team", says co-producer Marc Dube. "If anyone's going to investigate the lab, I want it to be me", explains Rodriguez" [But] it causes some tension in the relationships". The undercover assignment will furthur shake the team's trust later in the month when it culminates in the takedown of a key member of the CSI/MIAMI family. "It's someone who's been on the show for a very long time", hints Rodriguez, who is returning full-time for Season 9. "But it's pretty damn safe to say that it won't be me. I think I've been through enough this past year!
Carita Rizzo. TV Guide writer~

do u guys think when adam says someone whos been on the show for along time, he means long time as in as long as calleigh or horatio, or as in not jesse or walter???

and i was just thinking about the spoiler photo of eric running through the lab with the people lying down, and how some people were wondering who was in the labcoat. i think it might be calleigh cuz who else would he run past everyone else for?

and the pictures from time bomb where eric and calleigh are fighting, maybe its because of his undercover investigation, and him asking her if she did it or something...

After tonight's episode Meltdown, I have this heart wrenching feeling that it could be Natalia!! :wtf::wtf: Dear God, I hope not! But she was acting very strange especially after she caught Delko w/ the wire, and that she didn't go hang out with them at the end. It could just be that she doesn't trust Delko now because she suspects that he's investigating them. (Hmmm, wasn't she on that side too once?) Anyway, I hope the writers won't do that, because I like Natalia and Eva LaRue. Then again, there's also JAKE! WTF was he on tonights episode? Big deal, he was "investigating" this crime spree. But why Jake all of a sudden. Jake has been on the show for a long time, so that could fit to what AR was saying in the interview. I know Calleigh said that he was with her when the diamonds were stolen, but...she may have been his alibi. Delko always had great instincts, and it was apparant that he does not like Jake. (now or back in season 5) I think that goes beyond the fact that he is Calleigh's ex. I think he doesn't trust him. On the other hand, there's Stetler too. He showed up all of a sudden too. And isn't it strange that both Walter and Ryan were both down as being the last to handle the evidence. Stetler has never liked Horatio and it wouldn't surprise me that if he went bad, he'd want to frame Horatio or his team. (maybe I just REALLY don't like Stetler--sorry Stetler fans) Then again maybe it isn't any of them. I agree with what "Blinded by Smoke" said that AR mentioned that it was the Csi Family, not Team. I look at Natalia, Ryan, Walter, Horatio, Calleigh, Delko, Jessie as part of the team. Anyone at the CSI could be considered "family". I bet this is something the writers are doing to keep us guessing. They'd want us to suspect one of the regulars, makes for great TV and a nail-biting finale!!

 

[redanemone]

Well I'm not too sure that I should be saying this but if you're curious you may want to check out the previous pages as well as the old Spoiler Lab thread for those revelations. This one was only recently opened (we maxed out the previous one).

I just remembered that Eric said the theft has been going on for some time. I guess I can't help but wonder how it hasn't been brought to the labs attention until now. And no mention of Rebecca, either. Maybe I'm just too finicky over details...

 

[silentdisco]

After tonight's episode Meltdown, I have this heart wrenching feeling that it could be Natalia!! :wtf::wtf: Dear God, I hope not! But she was acting very strange especially after she caught Delko w/ the wire, and that she didn't go hang out with them at the end. It could just be that she doesn't trust Delko now because she suspects that he's investigating them. (Hmmm, wasn't she on that side too once?)

I felt the same way. I thought it was especially odd that she was the one who initiated the whole "Let's go out for drinks!" thing, but backed out as soon as Delko was in. I get feeling uncomfortable, like she didn't want to spend the entire time feeling like she was lying to her coworkers because she was the only one who knew about his involvement in the investigation. But what better a place to push your discomfort out of your mind temporarily than at a bar with some friends? Have a drink or two, hang out with the others, forget about wires and stolen diamonds.

On the other hand, there's Stetler too. He showed up all of a sudden too. And isn't it strange that both Walter and Ryan were both down as being the last to handle the evidence. Stetler has never liked Horatio and it wouldn't surprise me that if he went bad, he'd want to frame Horatio or his team.

Eh, Stetler's IAB- Internal Affairs. The diamonds being stolen from evidence storage falls under his his reign, because it's considered an internal issue (someone at the very least messed up, and at the worst is corrupt). He has to show up anytime that happens. He's like law enforcement for law enforcement, so to speak. So to me, it makes sense that Stetler was there, and there quickly.

 

[Blinded By Smoke]

Well ,I will refrain from commenting on the above statements. I know who betrayed H, from the last time someone said it. If anyone wants to know, feel free to PM me, but it is very spoiler-ish!!! It was removed from the previous thread, considered to be "TO much of a spoiler" with good reason!!

I do want to take the time to add, I HOPE they do NOT kill off/get rid of Nat. That would suck. She is an established cast member and I do not want to see her (Or anyone else, for that matter) go. I think maybe they are just playing up to give her a bit of a story the final few episodes. The conflict with Delko, and the hearing aid--- ect, ect. I sure hope that is all.

I just can't imagine someone major leaving. JMO, but like I said in a previous post- NY did this same hype last year with the shootout, and Danny was just injured for a few episodes. I can see Miami doing that.

 

[vignes[smallgir]

Sorry for the double post.

Finale stuff from TVGuide.com

May 24, CBS
Horatio & Co. track a serial killer who taunts the CSIs with numerous clues and bodies. Guest star Esai Morales plays the killer's apparent next target. Horatio, meanwhile, will still be reeling from what co-executive producer Barry O'Brien calls "the most dramatic betrayal in Horatio Caine's career." The end result of that betrayal may mean the end of several CSIs' careers.

Strange... I thought the whole betrayal thing would be wrapped up in epi 23.

I think it will be, its just that ep 23 hasn't aired yet, so they're lumping info for the final two eps together.

can you please give me the link , where you read this, please

 

[GregNickRyanFan]

Sorry for the double post.

Finale stuff from TVGuide.com

Strange... I thought the whole betrayal thing would be wrapped up in epi 23.

I think it will be, its just that ep 23 hasn't aired yet, so they're lumping info for the final two eps together.

can you please give me the link , where you read this, please

Just go to tvguide.com and do a search on CSI: Miami and you should find it.

 

[MiamiWolfe]

Maybe it's me just trying to be optimistic (I admit I won't really rest until I know Jon/Ryan will be back for sure next season) but I don't see why they have to get rid of anyone. I know that there is six CSI (Eric, Ryan, Calleigh, Jesse, Walter and Natalia) but they could run two cases in an episode and split up the team to work on each individual case. Maybe that is too simple, or not feisable I don't know.

 

[clumsy]

Maybe it's me just trying to be optimistic (I admit I won't really rest until I know Jon/Ryan will be back for sure next season) but I don't see why they have to get rid of anyone. I know that there is six CSI (Eric, Ryan, Calleigh, Jesse, Walter and Natalia) but they could run two cases in an episode and split up the team to work on each individual case. Maybe that is too simple, or not feisable I don't know.

That's exactly what I'm thinking! I have always wondered why they solve only one case per episode (well, not every epi, but we never see it happen, unless the cases are somehow connected JMO), but I guess that's the writers' decision.

 

[Vikki Roxx]

I initially thought that the betrayal part is that H doesn't really know that Delko is a mole... BUT Adam Rodriguez is confirmed as full-time team member for the next season, so it's impossible. Maybe it's indeed Ryan who's been stealing stuff...