**Spoiler Lab** S8 - Check Out What's On The Horizon!

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I just hope Eric and Ryan will have a better relationship next season than they've had in the past.

From your post to tptb eyes. I'm really hoping for that too. I'd love the two to have a decent friendship or at least co-exist peacefully in the workplace. :lol:

I don't mind Adam/Eric returning at all... I'm just worried about how this particular set of writers is going to do on balancing screentime with so many characters (if they keep all of the news in addition to the originals from Season 3/4 and on- I say originals from Season 3/4 because Ryan and Natalia didn't join until Season 3 and 4 and respectfully). Tptb haven't been that great on balancing screentime (though they have done better this season than in the past, so I will give them credit for that). Maybe it'll be okay and we're all worrying for nothing. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :) I don't really mean to be so glum sometimes, but all this change just makes me a little nervous. I can't help it. :lol:

Don't think though that he will come back as a CSI, I mean, Eric can't go back and forth like a pinball ball without consequences. Just for the sake of the realism of the storyline. I would enjoy him working for the state attorney though.

I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. :)

I still don't like the idea of episode 20. It just sounds too weird even for this show. :lol: But maybe it'll go better than it sounds. :lol:
 
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I'm just sick of being dicked around. Ever since Khandi left there's been team members and recurring labrats come & go like crazy -- it does nothing to show that this is solid team when tptb keep shuffling characters around like this. ME's dead, ME's addicted & goes off to jail, lab tech is a thief, CSI half dead leaves & then comes back, what's next? A CSI who's a serial killer just for the sake of needing to get rid of someone? Seriously, they need to get thier shit together -- I can't stand the feeling of a disjointed team with characters coming & going & coming again -- it does nothing but make me feel that TPTB have no idea what they're doing from one season to the next -- it's sloppy!

RE: spoilers -- are we only going to get spoiler details when it pertains to Eric or e/c? Cause there seems to be alot of episodes in between that are missing in this thread. Plotlines & casting calls have been it, but wait, when there's E/C involved it suddenly comes to the board in full detail. Gee thanks.
 
I have never understood all this taking personally everything that happens to the characters, you have noticed maybe that I don't write that often anymore, and the reason is actually that. I enjoy CSI:Miami as a show, I sit there and watch it. The fact that writers don't write episodes the way I want things to go is understandable, if I was the writer I would write them the way I want. It's like reading a book, it's not like you expect the author to write exactly what you are expecting from the book you brought.
Everyone is free to say what they think but I believe that there is a thin line between exposing your thoughts about a storyline and a never ending rant.
There are too many people ranting against the writers, producers and all. I really can't understand it, it's maybe because I entirely know what happens behing the scenes of a show like that, and everything, from screentime to the colors of a lipstick, is taken care and it really amazed me that someone can think that fans know more than writers or producers.
Please, let's go back to the simple and relaxing discussions of some time ago, I wanna go back to enjoy spending a lot of time on this forum...

About Adam coming back: don't know what to think, it changes a lot of things actually, even in every idea of a possible closure of E/C. Don't think though that he will come back as a CSI, I mean, Eric can't go back and forth like a pinball ball without consequences. Just for the sake of the realism of the storyline. I would enjoy him working for the state attorney though.
I'm sorry I have to be the one to tell you this Lu, but I for once do not admire a "professional" actor leaving the show for whatever reason it was who later comes back whining b/c his new show didn't go as expected. No way I'm gonna accept it :scream:

It is nothing personal against Adam Rodriguez!!!! The only way for him to proove himself as coherent and consistent person/actor was to leave the show for good after his 10 episodes.

So please do not come here claiming we're taking this personally!!! I know this is a fictional show, but I also know that there are lots of people who are far more professional than the one we are talking about (along with Jorja Fox who is the LV example for this crap) and don't even get the chance they deserve. No way I'm gonna accept an unprofessional actor to work on my fav. show

If you can accept bad qality on your fav. show just b/c you define yourself a fan of this show...good for you. But I, as a fan of the show and as a fan of talented and professional actors, cannot do it.

I don't even wanna know what Rory Cochrane's fans are going to think about this stuff 'cause, IMHO, this is just insulting towards them. Rory has never been given the opportunity to come back and, above all, he has never come back whining because his career didn't go as he had expected!


Flo I totally agree with you, I wonder how is it possible for Adam to come back and be accepted.
This means they have different measures. Rory was almost kicked in the ass for much less and, being a Tim's fan, I hate this new turn of the events. Plus I find it disgusting for the rest of the cast, I mean Rodriguez said the plotlines weren't the best and he wanted to play something else. Now that UB failed, do we have to hug him back? :rolleyes:
Saying he didn't like the storylines (still he goes on playing them) he disrespected the show and his collegues' job.
No I cannot accept his return with anyone else leaving the show!

And I've also read 8x20 spoiler. Please, let's not repeat another disaster like Man Down... I'm sorry to say this, but I really hope Calleigh dies in this episode also because I'm already disgusted because of 8x14 and I really don't want to have to watche any other bad scene in the futue. I watch CSI...not a bad soap opera :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, this storyline has transformed CSI into a poor soap opera
where's H? Where is the rest of the team? :confused::confused:
This really annoys me: seeing actors like him getting whatever they want, while lots of other actors struggle to have a role...even the worst one
I know lots of them but I won't write down the list, 'cause it would be long and I don't want anyone to die of boredom.
That obviously means the writers and producers like him. They could have easily said "no, sorry. too late."
 
^^ I'm fairly certain no one has claimed that writers or producers did not like him. The network wanted the character to be killed, I'm sure that's where the issue stood. While I'm also sure CBS was willing to re-negotiate, I highly doubt they caved & gave him his every request. I don't mean to sound rude or offensive, but IMO, it looks as if Adam crawled back with his tail between his legs.
 
That obviously means the writers and producers like him. They could have easily said "no, sorry. too late."
Nope because, otherwise, they so would have found better deals for him to stay instead of letting him go to a failing project :rolleyes:

I don't mean to sound rude or offensive, but IMO, it looks as if Adam crawled back with his tail between his legs.
Yep...that's what I call whining and CBS accomplished his desires.....both professional actors and professional channels, like they're supposed to be, wouldn't have done any of it :rolleyes:
 
Florry said:
I don't even wanna know what Rory Cochrane's fans are going to think about this stuff 'cause, IMHO, this is just insulting towards them. Rory has never been given the opportunity to come back [...]

As for coming back indefinitely, that's the case but he's said in interviews that he was totally open to doing guest spots whenever they needed him and that's what TPTB did before his contract was up ('BBYD'). They also wanted him back for the season 8 premiere and from what I've read/heard, they weren't able to get a hold of him/get him back to the show for the one episode. Rory also stated in an interview for 'Public Enemies' that he was "finished with that show" when asked about returning to CSI:Miami. So in that respect, he was given chances and Rory gave them chances but ultimately, the relationship between both him and TPTB seem over or at the very least, on ice.

I think the situation with Rory could have gone better on both sides. As a Speed/Rory fan, I can't say that I'm not frustrated with the former and Adam being able to return full-time but they're different people caught up in a somewhat different situation so I can't fault the outcomes for being contrary.

mjszud said:
RE: spoilers -- are we only going to get spoiler details when it pertains to Eric or e/c? Cause there seems to be alot of episodes in between that are missing in this thread. Plotlines & casting calls have been it, but wait, when there's E/C involved it suddenly comes to the board in full detail. Gee thanks.

I haven't checked my sources in a while (aside from the spoilers posted here recently) but the E/C saga is a hot topic so it's bound to get more publicity anyhow.

ETA:

I do know Episode 19 should be called 'Spring Breakdown'. It's about 3 20-something year olds seemingly unconnected, partying hard during Spring Break but soon end up in the morgue.

One of the victims ends up being found in an industrialized washing machine, while the other is impaled on a flag pole. The last victim is found burried up to his neck in sand on the beach, having drowned to death.

I don't believe these details have been shared here yet so I thought I'd post.
 
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Thanks for the info Geni. Normally there are at least more details to the spoilers though, even unrelated to e/c. I just found it odd there hasn't been anyone posting these spoiler summaries expect for when it's e/c related. :rolleyes:
 
Florry said:
I don't even wanna know what Rory Cochrane's fans are going to think about this stuff 'cause, IMHO, this is just insulting towards them. Rory has never been given the opportunity to come back [...]

As for coming back indefinitely, that's the case but he's said in interviews that he was totally open to doing guest spots whenever they needed him and that's what TPTB did before his contract was up ('BBYD'). They also wanted him back for the season 8 premiere and from what I've read/heard, they weren't able to get a hold of him/get him back to the show for the one episode. Rory also stated in an interview for 'Public Enemies' that he was "finished with that show" when asked about returning to CSI:Miami. So in that respect, he was given chances and Rory gave them chances but ultimately, the relationship between both him and TPTB seem over or at the very least, on ice.

I think the situation with Rory could have gone better on both sides. As a Speed/Rory fan, I can't say that I'm not frustrated with the former and Adam being able to return full-time but they're different people caught up in a similar situation so I can't fault the outcomes for being different.

mjszud said:
RE: spoilers -- are we only going to get spoiler details when it pertains to Eric or e/c? Cause there seems to be alot of episodes in between that are missing in this thread. Plotlines & casting calls have been it, but wait, when there's E/C involved it suddenly comes to the board in full detail. Gee thanks.

I haven't checked my sources in a while (aside from the spoilers posted here recently) but the E/C saga is a hot topic so it's bound to get more publicity anyhow.

ETA:

I do know Episode 19 should be called 'Spring Breakdown'. It's about 3 20-something year olds seemingly unconnected, partying hard during Spring Break but soon end up in the morgue.

One of the victims ends up being found in an industrialized washing machine, while the other is impaled on a flag pole. The last victim is found burried up to his neck in sand on the beach, having drowned to death.

I don't believe these details have been shared here yet so I thought I'd post.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I think that Rory and Adam's situations are completely different. It was obvious that Rory's departure was a bit more heated.
 
Florry said:
I don't even wanna know what Rory Cochrane's fans are going to think about this stuff 'cause, IMHO, this is just insulting towards them. Rory has never been given the opportunity to come back [...]
As for coming back indefinitely, that's the case but he's said in interviews that he was totally open to doing guest spots whenever they needed him and that's what TPTB did before his contract was up ('BBYD'). They also wanted him back for the season 8 premiere and from what I've read/heard, they weren't able to get a hold of him/get him back to the show for the one episode. Rory also stated in an interview for 'Public Enemies' that he was "finished with that show" when asked about returning to CSI:Miami. So in that respect, he was given chances and Rory gave them chances but ultimately, the relationship between both him and TPTB seem over or at the very least, on ice.
Well I, OFC, woulnd't have come back right after TPTB decided my character was not worth living because of whatever reason. I can't say that I blame him for his decisions. At least he has always been consistent ;)
 
(although we don't know what happened behind closed doors), I for one am glad to have Delko back... after all he's a series original, and the more the merrier.

I agree with you there, CSI_Natalia. A few folks on this board (unsurprisingly, mostly anti-Hiphuggers) keep saying that Adam should not have been allowed to return to the show because he supposedly "chose" to leave in the first place. IMO, that view is a bit overly-simplistic. It's not like Adam just woke up one morning and decided to waltz off into the sunset and leave CSIM in the dust. :rolleyes: Anyone familiar with showbiz knows that studios have many ways of "persuading" an actor to leave a show, while making it look like the actor's idea. Basically, the studio makes it so impossible for the actor to continue on the show or offers such ridiculous contract terms that the actor is forced to leave. Of course, CBS would never admit this publicly (esp. with a popular character like Eric), because they're afraid of backlash from fans. :scream: In a situation like this, the parties typically chalk it up to "creative differences," even though a lot more went into the actor's departure from the show.

We "regular folks" aren't privy to what goes on behind closed doors @ CSIM, so we'll never know all the details of Adam's departure and return. I wonder where the folks launching personal attacks against Adam's professionalism (accusing him of "whining," and "crawling back to the show with his tail between his legs"), are getting their info from. They must have some inside look behind-the-scenes of CSIM that the rest of us aren't aware of. (For all we know, TPTB @ CBS may have approached Adam about returning to the show.
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) I wonder if the Adam-naysayers will be as dismissive when their favorite cast-members' contracts come up for renewal and the negotiations reach an impasse. And I'm sure that none of these pot-shots would have been taken at Rory Cochrane if he'd returned to the show after initially parting ways with CSIM. But Speedle died and was buried on screen:(, so, so barring a resurrection storyline, the character could not have come back that easily. I was (and am) a Speed fan, so this is definitely not a knock against Rory by any stretch. I'm just pointing out a double standard that some forum-members seem to apply depending on whether they like a character or not.:shifty:

I agree with redanemone, wickdwtch, lusiana88 and others who are nostalgic for the days when this board was a lighthearted place for fans of CSIM to talk about their favorite show, and yes, share constructive criticism and ideas. All the recent negativity is just depressing, and IMO, unnecessary. Please hold onto your rotten tomatoes
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... I'm just expressing an opinion.:)
 
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I, for one, am very happy that Adam is back, but I'm worried how the EC relationship will be handled. They cannot work together as a couple so will be hiding their status(still) or break-up? I want a regular, full-time relationship, normal like Lindsay and Danny.
 
I, for one, am very happy that Adam is back, but I'm worried how the EC relationship will be handled. They cannot work together as a couple so will be hiding their status(still) or break-up? I want a regular, full-time relationship, normal like Lindsay and Danny.
I want that too..xD

I think by myself that Jesse is gonna leave of die. He just doesn't fit in. and what is with all the drama with Calleigh.. is she not getting enough drama yet, I personaly think that somebody else can get more drama like Natalia or Ryan. Please don't sent Walter away I love him he is so adorable xD Calleigh and Eric have to act just normal. And there has to be a new ship always Calleigh/Eric is getting bored for much people xD

(PS. don't blame my english please!!!)
 
I, for one, am very happy that Adam is back, but I'm worried how the EC relationship will be handled. They cannot work together as a couple so will be hiding their status(still) or break-up? I want a regular, full-time relationship, normal like Lindsay and Danny.
I want that too..xD

I think by myself that Jesse is gonna leave of die. He just doesn't fit in. and what is with all the drama with Calleigh.. is she not getting enough drama yet, I personaly think that somebody else can get more drama like Natalia or Ryan. Please don't sent Walter away I love him he is so adorable xD Calleigh and Eric have to act just normal. And there has to be a new ship always Calleigh/Eric is getting bored for much people xD

(PS. don't blame my english please!!!)


I don't think that most of the people would like a new ship here...;) Hiphuggers are happy with theirs and a lot of people want a crime show to be one.
But...I quite like the idea of Nat/Ryan and H./Yelina together...as Yelina is no longer the main character they could make her Horatio's love interest.
And cut all the drama with main characters, it really is too much...
 
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