Season 10 *Spoiler Lab* Discussion P1

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Eh, not much of a loss. I mean sure the character was underwritten, but it cuts both ways. She still didn't make much of an impression on those few occasions when she was given something to do. I never got the sense that there was a great character just waiting for the chance to emerge. The character was an insubstantial, easily forgotten, empty vessel.
 
I doubt it had anything to do with salary. Since they don't have to pay WP full time, they had already cut their budget. I think this is part of the 'creative changes' they alluded to in an interview. Losing 3 characters in a year hurt; this is one they could get back. And having Sara back is a way to bring Grissom back on occasion.
I feel bad for LLS. I think the writers had difficulty developing her character because they were too focused on Ray. But I won't deny, I couldn't be happier to see Jorja again. :)
It still sounds like she is only back part-time, so I don't really know what to think. I guess I'll just have to wait and see. But I'm definitely looking forward to season 10 and I didn't think I would be.
 
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Desertwind said:
Thank gawd, she sucked, no acting skills and no personailty/boring, and talked like she was reading her lines from a cue-card. a DUD. The character Riley didn't fit the CSI guidelines, apparently. And on giving her a chance, a whole season was the chance, and she failed miserably, my opinion. That does clear up a few things about Jorja returning, and why she lasted for 9 years~
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First off, I thought actor bashing was a BIG no-no? Second off, WTF?! LLS was great I thought. I do agree that they brought her on at a weird time. TPTB, and some of the pathetic fans here, (see above :rolleyes:) are blaming actors and characters for issues THEY are creating. They make LLS all angsty, preparing this season for her backstory, and than they just boot her for JF no doubt?

It's quite sad. In a way, I almost can't wait for CSI to be over. The crap hole that it has become is quite depressing. Someone cut the actors loose please. The remainging actors (GE, MH, LLS and ES) deserve so much more than what TPTB can give them.

This pathetic excuse for a show needs to get its priorities straight. This may just be the final nail in the coffin for this CSI fan.:scream:
 
Unfortunately from a lot of what I had read, Riley was not very well received. I know I tried really hard to like her but there was something that just seemed to be missing about her character. I don't want to place blame because what good does that do. But I don't think that she fit in for a lot of fans of the show.

That being said, I do feel sorry for LLS. It's not easy to come into an established show and try to act like you belong. And it's not easy when there are so many fans who didn't give her much of a chance.
 
Desertwind said:
Thank gawd, she sucked, no acting skills and no personailty/boring, and talked like she was reading her lines from a cue-card. a DUD. The character Riley didn't fit the CSI guidelines, apparently. NOT the actress LLS, I know nothing about her what-so-ever. And on giving her a chance, a whole season was the chance, and she failed miserably, my opinion. That does clear up a few things about Jorja returning, and why she lasted for 9 years~
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Desertwind, when someone says Sara sucks or such you are not happy with them, why? because you love the character and you want them to be respectful of that. But then you jump in with the above? That isn't anymore acceptable then people saying that about Sara. You like them could have said you "disliked" the character and your reasons why. People may respond to your reasons why, but right now they are responding to your choice of words, as I am sure you would.


I think EVERYONE again needs to CHILL OUT! Calm down and Relax.
 
Destiny: Maybe a rule should be made that if you wouldn't say it about your grandma, then you shouldn't say it about an actor/character?

No? Just a suggestion....:cool:
 
Sorry Destiny but I did give the reasons why, I 'DISLIKED THIS CHARACTER' not the actress, she's a pretty sweet girl, my reasons were to me valid and almost eveyone disses Jorja/Sara on a daily basis and I just deal with it up mostly, disliking friction or confrontations. She was on one season, and apparently the writers weren't content with her persona, or she would have stayed. Jorja was on for 9 years, a whole lot of difference, and that's a wrap~ I didn't focus in on any one particulary, and I wanted to like this character very much, but ep. after ep. I was disapointed and let down, apparently the CSI staff were too. I did decipher my words, and that's how I felt. Sorry if that offends anyone, but I do understand, but am offended constantly, by anyone who chooses to disagree with others comments. So sorry about this, moving on~~~
 
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Her acting card far exceeds anything Jorja Fox as ever done. She is too good for CSI, and will probably wind up doing something even better than rhyming off crime scenes in a valley girl voice such as someone we all know does or spend her time pining for some man like Jorja Fox did for several seasons!
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Oh, sure, Jorja was never in any independent films (Memento, Food for the Heart) or you know, two hit TV shows before CSI (ever hear of ER or the West Wing?)

I apologize for the sarcasm, but your post was not only nasty, but inaccurate. (And it was Sara who pined for Grissom, not Jorja.)


I feel very sorry for LLS too, she was never given a chance. I wasn't sure about Riley as a character, but I don't think that was the actress's fault. It's got to be hard to come in when she did, and I think she did a fine job with what they gave her.
 
I'm sorry we're losing Riley, because she had the makings of a good character. I wonder if they will leave the slot empty? I think it could still work that way, even after Jorja leaves. Again.
 
Ok, Ok, we get it. If a fly drops dead on the CSI set, it's Jorja's fault. If I break my nail, it's Jorja's fault. Recession is Jorja's fault.

Now that that's clear, maybe it's just that the timing of Riley's introduction to the team was very unfortunate, even moreso considering they were also introducing Morpheus to the show. I don't care one way or another about her being out since I didn't get to see her, but best wishes to her and there's the hope that she lands a role that's more suited for her.

I'm waaaaay beyond excited to see Sara back! However, I'm having abiguous feelings about her coming back as a CSI. Unless she comes to help them a little bit and then something happens and she has to stay there, I don't know how TPTB will be able to pull that off. Because she's supposed to be honeymooning with Grissom around the world, and she's supposed to be burnt out and all that. Having Sara back on the show? Great idea. As a CSI? Hhhhmmmm...

P.S.: Is it just my impression, or does it sound in the interview like Grissom will also be back at some point?
 
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I so may have missed this in the post here, but they're going to spotlight her for the episodes she'll be in?

The characters that have been there since the beginning can barely get on episode to focus on them and some not all, but Sara will get FIVE episodes devoted to her? That is so wrong!!!!!!

Sorry Destiny, but Desertwind you were criticizing the actress not stating why you disliked her character. A character doesn't do the acting or the reading of the lines, the actress does.

In any case, as for Riley I never really took to her, but I was getting used to her and it is a shame that Lauren lost her job because she got lost in the shuffle. That's not her fault. One thing I did like was her chemistry with Greg. Since we don't have the Nick/Warrick friendship anymore they could've focused on a Greg/Riley friendship. Definitely a little sibling rivalry, arguing, you know what I mean.

But, I'm sorry, I don't buy that Sara can't do the job anymore and now she can? That is unrealistic. So she helps out and than walks out, again, with no goodbye because she couldn't handle it and who hires back someone who just walked out on the job with no notice, except a goodbye letter to Grissom?

Alright, Sara is coming back, I certainly hope they do not have everyone welcome her with open arms. She left without say goodbye to her 'friends and the people she cares about' twice and that doesn't bother any of them. Nope, don't buy that either. I could see them not saying anything in For Warrick, because they were dealing with a death, but now. There needs to be some problems.

Just like there should've been problems when Catherine try to fool the team with Keppler and Grissom having a relationship with a subordinate. Yeah, like that wouldn't piss co-workers off and cause tension afterwards. Yeah, right.

Sara fans, sorry if I'm ragging on her, but if it was Sara that was constantly pushed to the background because of a ship or an actress that leaves, comes back, leaves and then comes back again, you wouldn't be happy about either.
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Sure. TPTB. Focus on the returning character all you can and give up on a wonderful new character that had potential to develop a nice storyline, plus keep shoving the other characters that are still around to the background.

If the producers aren't just trying to get people's attention and what they say is really going to happen, I hope, and I mean it, that season 10 is Marg's last season on CSI. I'd hate to see her go, but I'd hate to see her talent wasted much more.
 
Sure. TPTB. Focus on the returning character all you can and give up on a wonderful new character that had potential to develop a nice storyline, plus keep shoving the other characters that are still around to the background.

If the producers aren't just trying to get people's attention and what they say is really going to happen, I hope, and I mean it, that season 10 is Marg's last season on CSI. I'd hate to see her go, but I'd hate to see her talent wasted much more.
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Yes I agree with you. I really would love to see George every week as well, but the talent is being wasted on a character and an actress who walks in and out whenever they want instead of to loyal actors.
 
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