Ratings: CSI vs ... Part 2

Repeat of CSI (Viewers: 14.12 million; A18-49: 3.9/11)
Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: #3, 5.55 million; A18-49: #4, 1.9/ 5)

1) Happenstance - 13.792 million viewers
2) Living Legend - 12.091 million viewers - 12.3% drop
3) Law of Gravity - 10.038 million viewers - 17% drop
4) Built to Kill Part 1 - 9.63 million viewers - 4% drop
5) Built to Kill Part 2 - 9.305 million viewers - 3.4% drop
6) Leaving Las Vegas - 9.58 million viewers - 2.9% gain
7) Sweet Jane (10pm) - 9.419 million viewers - 1.7% drop
Redrum - 9.39 million viewers - 0.3% drop
9) Double-Cross - 8.913 million viewers - 5% drop
10) Burn Out - 9.338 million viewers - 4.6% gain
11) Toe Tags - 9.053 million viewers - 3% drop
12) Fallen Idols - 9.824 million viewers - 7.8% gain
13) Big Shots - 9.49 million viewers - 3.4% drop
14) Leapin' Lizards - 10.373 million viewers - 8.5% gain
15) Loco Motives - 7.776 million viewers - 25% drop
16) Monster in the Box - 9.487 million viewers - 18% gain
17) Lab Rats - 8.424 million viewers - 11.2% drop
18) Living Doll - 14.12 million viewers - 40.3% gain
 
Last year CSI had a 9.9/16 with a 4.6 in the key demo (so down a little bit, but as I said, Survivor - their lead-in - was down 14% from last year. Their second episode of the night got 10.0/17 with a 5.3 in the demo.

Grey's last year had two episodes back-to-back. The first got 5.1/9 with 2.4 in the demo, and the second got 6.3/10 with 3.4 in the demo.

The other issue is, of course, that these numbers do not directly translate to audience. Sometimes a show can have what looks like huge demo numbers and get half the actual viewers of another show.

According to Zap2it, CSI had 9.1/14 and Grey's had 3.9/6 which means (since I'm just going to combine the two double-episodes of each show), CSI is down 8.5% (less than their lead-in, so even more impressive), and Grey's is down 32% from last year.

If anybody wants to double-check my findings, here's the link to last year's ratings: (the small yellow rectangle at the bottom is the chart - just click on it):

Last year (and one week ago's) ratings

The key demos: Grey's is down 34% from last year in the key demo. CSI is down 15%
 
18) Living Doll - 14.12 million viewers - 40.3% gain
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oh s**t. i'm thinking we're gonna get some real good numbers next week. hey sarah do you know what were the final ratings for LD in may?
 
oh s**t. i'm thinking we're gonna get some real good numbers next week. hey sarah do you know what were the final ratings for LD in may?
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I sure do! lol.

In May, Living Doll got 20.447 million viewers. Which means that this repeat managed to retain 69% of the viewers who watched it in its first run.

Grey's finale got 22.572, which means that the re-airing yesterday retained 25% of the audience who watched it in its first run.
 
Here's a look at CSI's summer ratings as a graph:

CSI Summer Repeats

And here's what Grey's charted numbers look like:

Grey's Summer Repeats

1) 5.19 million
1) 5.38 million (back to back) - 3.5% gain
2) 5.63 million (on at 10pm) - 4.4% gain
3) 3.82 million (two-hour block) - 32% drop
4) 3.89 million - 1.8% gain
5) 4.97 million (CSI shown at 10) - 21.7% gain
6) 3.17 million - 36% drop
7) 3.36 million - 5.6% gain
:cool: 3.63 million - 7.4% gain
9) 3.7 million - 1.9% gain
10) 4.33 million - 14.5% gain
11) 3.66 million - 15.5% drop
12) 4.0 million - 8% gain
13) 4.07 million - 1.7% gain
14) 4.19 million - 2.9% gain
15) 7.02 million (clip show for GA and Private Practice) - 40% gain
16) 5.55 million - 21% drop

Average: 4.772 million viewers.

Average w/o Wednesday clip show: 4.57 million viewers
 
CSI comes in second place for the week behind football.

Final number: 14.071

1) Happenstance - 13.792 million viewers
2) Living Legend - 12.091 million viewers - 12.3% drop
3) Law of Gravity - 10.038 million viewers - 17% drop
4) Built to Kill Part 1 - 9.63 million viewers - 4% drop
5) Built to Kill Part 2 - 9.305 million viewers - 3.4% drop
6) Leaving Las Vegas - 9.58 million viewers - 2.9% gain
7) Sweet Jane (10pm) - 9.419 million viewers - 1.7% drop
Redrum - 9.39 million viewers - 0.3% drop
9) Double-Cross - 8.913 million viewers - 5% drop
10) Burn Out - 9.338 million viewers - 4.6% gain
11) Toe Tags - 9.053 million viewers - 3% drop
12) Fallen Idols - 9.824 million viewers - 7.8% gain
13) Big Shots - 9.49 million viewers - 3.4% drop
14) Leapin' Lizards - 10.373 million viewers - 8.5% gain
15) Loco Motives - 7.776 million viewers - 25% drop
16) Monster in the Box - 9.487 million viewers - 18% gain
17) Lab Rats - 8.424 million viewers - 11.2% drop
18) Living Doll - 14.071 million ciewers - 40.1% gain

Some competition for CSI, potentially: c/o Marc Berman

Blockbuster Dancing With the Stars stood head and shoulders above the rest, with the season-premiere at 21.19 million viewers and a 5.8 rating/20 share among adults 18-49 from 8-9:30 p.m.

and while CSI:Miami sucks, these numbers for last night are a little worrying for the franchise in general:

CSI: Miami (Viewers: #1, 14.84 million; A18-49: #1, 4.6/12)
 
thanks for all the data sarah.
and while CSI:Miami sucks, these numbers for last night are a little worrying for the franchise in general:
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i didn't have anything to do yesterday evening so i watched a bit of Dangerous Son. and let me say one thing - oh dear. this was just ... gaah. how can anybody watch this? lol

i think i'm just so used to high quality shows like the original CSI, that when i flip to this horrifying Miami, i'm terrified by it's cheesyness and total crappiness. lmao. i seriously wouldn't compare it to LV. like, ever.
Blockbuster Dancing With the Stars stood head and shoulders above the rest, with the season-premiere at 21.19 million viewers
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it's kinda sad that 21 mill is considered a great rating these days. anyway, i'd love CSI to hit 25 this week.
 
it's kinda sad that 21 mill is considered a great rating these days.
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Funnily enough, I was asked to take a look at the declining TV viewership as part of a Communications project, and there are a whole host of contributing factors. It really starts to boggle the mind and makes it almost impossible to blame one thing, but the overall consensus remains that people are just watching less and less live TV now than they were even five years ago.

So it really doesn't much matter what actual number CSI gets, but rather how it fairs against its contemporaries. Sure, getting 32 million again would be great, but overall the problem becomes that if too many people have a ton of different channels and viewing options and recording options and downloading options, 32 million people are less and less likely to all sit down in front of the same program - any program - anymore.

I'll continue to map CSI's numbers against last year and Grey's Anatomy, but its place on the Nielsens will be, IMO, the most significant at this stage.
 
I haven't been around in a while but with the season about to start, I thought I'd make an appearance in my favorite thread. I voted for 24 mil .. . for no particular reason. I do feel good about the premiere though, but CSI is going up against The Office this season now too, so you never know.
 
Ratings Pool for Season Premiere:

Adzix: 25 million viewers
mrb: 24 million viewers
sarahvma: 18 million viewers

I haven't been around in a while but with the season about to start, I thought I'd make an appearance in my favorite thread.
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Hee. Season's almost started - let's get ready to throw this down, mrb.

I do feel good about the premiere though, but CSI is going up against The Office this season now too, so you never know.
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And, more importantly, a full hour of the Office.
 
If there's a pool, I wanna be in!
I believe I voted 22 million in the original poll, so I'll stick with that.
However, I won't be surprised if it blows way past that.
 
Does anyone think ratings will go down if Sara dies? I think I will lose interest, I've starting watching without a trace through the summer and just may have to make it my new favorite show. :)
 
CSI might not top the week's ratings. From TV Guide online:

Heroes Uses Loophole to Supe Up Premiere Ratings

Forget invisibility and super-healing. NBC has discovered the power to inflate the ratings for Heroes' season premiere, seizing a new Nielsen rule that allows a network to add in the audience for any same-week rebroadcast. NBC will re-air the Heroes episode this Saturday night, and as long as the hour features the exact same commercial content — an easy requirement in this case, as Nissan was the eppy's sole sponsor — its numbers can be bundled into the 14.12 mil recorded on Monday.

But pay attention: Not only does the Peacock get to puff up Heroes' tally, it also won't get dinged for the typically lousy Saturday hour that normally would have sucked up prime-time space. "Theoretically, [NBC is] doing nothing wrong," ABC's research chief tells Variety. "But morally, they're playing with the weekly averages. You could see where this could lead to abuse."
 
Adzix: million viewers
mrb: 24 million viewers
Grizzom: 22 million viewers
sarahvma: 18 million viewers

FWIW, House premiered last night with less than 19 million viewers in the ratings.

Does anyone think ratings will go down if Sara dies?
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It's a hard question to answer, because it doesn't seem like the online fandom is at any kind of consensus or majority on whether or not they want her to live (due mostly to the big ship debate), so how the average viewer would feel is probably an even bigger mystery. But if I had to hazzard a guess, I'd probably say that like with most shows, any time the main cast is disturbed, the ratings will go down.

Perhaps not even due to how much the audience likes that character, but rather because of the shift in the dynamic that killing that person off would bring.

Forget invisibility and super-healing. NBC has discovered the power to inflate the ratings for Heroes' season premiere, seizing a new Nielsen rule that allows a network to add in the audience for any same-week rebroadcast. NBC will re-air the Heroes episode this Saturday night, and as long as the hour features the exact same commercial content — an easy requirement in this case, as Nissan was the eppy's sole sponsor — its numbers can be bundled into the 14.12 mil recorded on Monday.
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At least in advertising I remember that Grey's did that last year when it re-aired its Thursday premiere and claimed that over 30 million people watched GA that week.

Can CSI get extra points for Spike? lol.

But pay attention: Not only does the Peacock get to puff up Heroes' tally, it also won't get dinged for the typically lousy Saturday hour that normally would have sucked up prime-time space. "Theoretically, [NBC is] doing nothing wrong," ABC's research chief tells Variety. "But morally, they're playing with the weekly averages. You could see where this could lead to abuse."
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Honestly, I don't think this will help Heroes much, but it's still a really underhanded way to boost your score.
 
TV Guide online is running a poll to see what people plan to be watching at 9:00 PM (Eastern) tonight. At this time, 4:48 AM, the results are as follows:

Grey's Anatomy (ABC): 45.9% :mad:
CSI (CBS): 17.0% :(
Don't Forget the Lyrics (FOX): 0.0% :lol:
The Office (NBC): 30.4% :p
Something not listed here: 6.7% :rolleyes:
 
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