Grissom&Sara #23 - Hot, Butt-Kicking, Chainsaw Wielding Love

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Re: the Nick/Sara lockerroom exchange - If, say, Grissom's scene with Ecklie came BEFORE this (which it most likely did) and it had been a case of "Grissom, can I see you in my office" initiating said-meeting, then I'd say her wary look after "He's leaving us" might be because she thought Ecklie had found out about their relationship, that's why he called Grissom into his office, and he'd been stood down because of it. Not necessarily knowing the outcome of what happened there (say if she'd been out in the field since then, and Gris hadn't had a chance to call her and update) she'd have reason to be wary (whereas Nick'd know if he'd been around the lab and caught wind of things). Sara could be in the locker room in this scene if she'd just got into the lab after being out and about, and Nick was simply the first to run into her.

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It's a UNISEX username, Tom! Oh, and by the way? Everytime I look at your avatar, I cringe. So there. I hope that hurt, Sporter, I hope that hurt.
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*cries*

Good to see you again, Ziggy :)
 
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I thought the bigger slap to her appearance was in the final Tammy Felton episode where Catherine mockingly asked why Sara would want a mirror at a crime scene when she clearly doesn't care about her appearance.
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yeah, that was a slap but more to the character not the actress. as you said JF, even though admits she's so similar to her character, definitely uses a mirror. besides, i think Cath wouldn't say that to her in S7 anymore.

also one more thing that kinda interlaced with actor's private life in an awkward way, is Crow's Feet with Catherine on a case involving the issue of plastic surgeries. kinda ... hmm ... makes you think. dunno.
The other thing is this: in earlier seasons, they definitely drabbed Sara up quite a bit. I'm not saying men are stupid, but often they can't tell the difference between natural looks and what make-up can do to a person. And Sara had crap make-up.
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i agree to that. and i'm so happy they finally made her show how pretty she can be. it just makes me like the ship better. you know i'm a Grissom shipper, i want the best for him :D
it was in that exact ep where the reference was made, after the show.
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yes, that's exactly what i was talking about Sara_Grissom_Fan. thanks!

when i think of Tammi Felton case, i guess Cath was just verry pissed they had to be in that store in the middle of nowhere and David was late. i'd say she was PMS-ing. for example sometimes when i'm PMS-ing, i think so many things about people that i don't really mean, it's just what i feel at the moment, and it's not rational at all. the difference between me and Cath though, is that i don't tell people what i actually think right then, cuz i know i'm PMS-ing and even though i'd feel a lot better telling them they f****** piss me off, i just keep my mouth shut. besides Catherine was already furious enough about the location of the crime scene and Super Dave not being that super.
 
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SARA: I take it that's not blood.

GRISSOM: No... but there's protein in it.

SARA: Oh, the mile-high club. That means the two passengers may have had no
idea what was going on inside that cabin.

GRISSOM: (rote) You know, high altitude enhances the entire sexual experience.
It increases the euphoria.

SARA: (thinks about it for a moment) Well ... it's good. I don't know if it's
that good.

(At her comment, GRISSOM slowly turns to look up at SARA. SARA sees GRISSOM'S
reaction and has to ask.)

SARA: Cite your source.

GRISSOM: Hand me a swab, please.

SARA: You're avoiding the question. "Enhances sexual experience. Increases
euphoria." Cite your source.

GRISSOM: A magazine.

SARA: What magazine?

GRISSOM: "Applied Psychodynamics in Forensic Science."

SARA: Never heard of it.

GRISSOM: I'll get you a subscription.

(SARA doesn't say anything.)

GRISSOM: (calmly) Now, cite your source.

SARA: Oh ... now you want to go down that route?

GRISSOM: Yeah.

SARA: (smiles and shakes her head) Nah. Never mind.

GRISSOM: You started it.

SARA: Delta Airlines, Flight 1109, Boston-Miami, March '93, Ken Fuller. Hazel
eyes, Organic Chem Lab TA, BMOC ... overrated ... in ... every aspect. (GRISSOM
looks at SARA.) Could ... we ... get back to work, please?

GRISSOM: Yeah. I think, due to your, uh ... firsthand knowledge and experience
in airplane bathrooms, you should do the swab.

(GRISSOM steps out of the lavatory and walks past SARA back into the main
cabin.)

SARA: Fine.
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How the episode was SUPPOSED to be writting in the heads of the Gutterflies:

SARA:Oh, the mile-high club. That means the two passengers may have had no
idea what was going on inside that cabin.
GRISSOM: (rote) You know, high altitude enhances the entire sexual experience.
It increases the euphoria.
SARA: Well, yeah, it's amazing.. I MEAN .. pretty good.
(At her comment, GRISSOM slowly turns to look up at SARA. SARA sees GRISSOM's
reaction and has to ask.)
SARA: How the hell do you know?!
GRISSOM: A magazine.
SARA: You read about sex in airplanes in a MAGAZINE?!
GRISSOM: "Applied Psychodynamics in Forensic Science."
SARA: (rolls her eyes) Sure..
GRISSOM: I'll get you a subscription.
(SARA doesn't say anything.)
GRISSOM: (calmly) Now, cite your source.
SARA: Ugh.. No way. Nevermind.
GRISSOM: You started it.
SARA: Delta Airlines, Flight 1109, Boston-Miami, March '93, Ken Fuller. Hazel
eyes, Organic Chem Lab TA, BMOC ... overrated ... in ... every aspect. (GRISSOM
looks at SARA.) Could ... we ... get back to work, please?
GRISSOM: Wait a second.. Ken Fuller? That was my name before I changed it to Gilbert Grissom.
SARA: WTF?!
GRISSOM: I.. I.. THAT WAS YOU?!
SARA: ..You changed your name to Gilbert? What were you thinking?! Ugh.. anyway.. have fun doing the swab. (walks out of the room)

Haha. Can you imagine how awkward things would be after that? LOL!
 
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LMAO! That's awsome saraXsullivan. I totally just busted out laughing.
 
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hahaha, yeah.
now that would have been awkward yeah, especially since prior she said he was overrated in ever aspect, ha!


that was such a great scene though, seriously. i loved it. do you think Grissom was attracted to Sara back then?

we know Sara had a thing for him, cause she said she moved to vegas for him....

but nearer the end of that scene, his flirting was so in her face obvious. he probably felt okabout it, since she initiated the flirting/teasing. such an adorable scene.
 
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Andreina said:
jordan said:
This is probably wayy off-topic, but I'm including Grissom and Sara in my project for school that counts and a HUGE part of my grade. We read this short story called "Chekouts" and it's ALOT like GSR as far as the "they're in love but don't want to tell each other" stuff is concerned. I thought I'd say something, considering everyone just tells me to shut up when I start talking about that story now, since I always connect it to CSI. =P
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jaja that happen to me too :lol:
and more when I have to do sentences especially in grammar.. cause I do sentences like "Sara and Grissom.." and so on or something related to CSI.. :D
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Omg, that reminds me of this one time in the middle of class I was like "This is going to sound weird, but I saw that on TV once. It's not that special." and my teacher goes "Really? What show?" and I was like "CSI." and he was like "Isn't that show fake?" and I was like "Yeah, but if they can do it on a TV show and scientifically explain it then it's obviously already been done for real..." and then he left me alone cuz I outsmarted him. Haha.

There can't possibly be alot of GSR toruble yet!!! NOOOO!!!! Gayyy. Poor Sara's gunna be all depressed while he goes away. =[ I don't think she'll be mad though, I think she'll be a bit upset that he's going away though. She'll have nothing to do at home! =P Kidding, kidding. Lol. But I just think she'll be a little upset cuz he's leaving for a while, but I don't really think she'll be mad.
 
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do you think Grissom was attracted to Sara back then?
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I think given Grissom's embarassment about talking about his "reading material" (it was clear she was implying she'd expected him to say Hustler or something), I think at the very least, he was flustered by her.

Maybe partially because the last time they'd met, she'd been his student and now he was dealing with the possibility that he did, in fact, like her.

The first season GSR scenes were mostly like this - Sara said something suggestive, Grissom looked shocked, and a little bit guilty.

PS, Zigs - PM me.

Anyway - it wasn't really until Season 2 that we saw Grissom showing interest back. Had the hearing loss not happened, I don't believe he would've waited this long. But both physically and mentally, Grissom aged a LOT in a year, and Sara still could pass for the same age as when the show started.

Combine that with the fact that Sara is a work-a-holic and he was thinking he'd have to retire, and I think the rift became wider.

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I do believe this, though: GSR wasn't delayed due to lack of attraction or lack of interest. The beauty and grey hair comments are pretty much enough to confirm that.

Whether it be more immediate feelings for other people, job constraints or personal problems, I don't think that liking or not liking each other was ever the issue. Sara made that clear often, and Grissom's whole Butterflied speech was about how MUCH he wanted to be with her, but because of a lot of internal reasons, didn't think it was right.

I mean, he spoke of dating her like it would alter his entire life. I don't think picking up the cheque at Yogen Fruz and a movie date is a life-altering experience for a lot of guys. lol.

Of COURSE we're getting GSR angst. Even if it's total bullshit. If they were really going to give us angst, they'd have Sara crying or looking flat-out pissed or something. Yes, it's all in how Jorja chooses to convey it, but the script is basically saying, "Keep it mysterious". They want people to be invested in this storyline, and the thing about angst is that both people who support it and people against it can have fun with it and be interested.
 
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When Grissom goes on sabbatical, is he going AWAY away (ie. to another city/country/planet? Hehe, can you imagine Grissom in space? I digress) or is he just taking some time off (ie. sitting alone at home)?

Also:
GRISSOM: Wait a second.. Ken Fuller? That was my name before I changed it to Gilbert Grissom.
SARA: WTF?!
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Hahahaha...and I've always wanted to hear someone on CSI say "WTF?!"

Warrick: The DNA of the blood at the scene didn't match the victim's.
Catherine: WTF?!
Or better yet...
Grissom: WTF?!
 
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I think given Grissom's embarassment about talking about his "reading material" (it was clear she was implying she'd expected him to say Hustler or something), I think at the very least, he was flustered by her.
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do you think he HAD read it in a dirty magazine? haha. i wonder if it was the truth, what he told her about where he read it.

i totally took the scene the other way. cause after being giddy during the first viewing, on repeat watches, i thought about how if that had been me in grissoms situation, with someone i maybe was attracted to-id be flustered. but Grissom seemed ice cool in that scene to me, didnt blush or anything. (probably wouldnt have been able to see if he had though since he was wearing a ton of makeup as previously mentioned) but i thought he was really controlled about the situation, the way at first, how he said hand me a swab after being initially shocked at her saying it was good etc. so he tried to direct the conversation back to work, but she was the one who wouldnt allow it. her teasing him was cute, but even when he was answering her, he just looked so ice cool. sara meanwhile was giddy and smiling like a teenager who was talking to their crush.

but the way after she made him tell her, he made her tell him. i was wondering why he suddenly was so eagar to discuss when at first he tried to spurn the advances. i think he probably thought it was tricky ground but eventually gave in. but the bit where he was telling her, she had to cite her source and when he told he he thought she should do the swab. it was SO DAMN FLIRTY. his expression.

see if that was me, i would have been giddy all day, but not too far into the scene, their back into work mode as if their flirty encounter never happened, acting professionally and normally. i find it interesting, cause i could never be that composed. for the most part, sara and grissom are composed and controlled when they need to be. grissom more than sara though.

Maybe partially because the last time they'd met, she'd been his student and now he was dealing with the possibility that he did, in fact, like her.

The first season GSR scenes were mostly like this - Sara said something suggestive, Grissom looked shocked, and a little bit guilty.


Anyway - it wasn't really until Season 2 that we saw Grissom showing interest back. Had the hearing loss not happened, I don't believe he would've waited this long. But both physically and mentally, Grissom aged a LOT in a year, and Sara still could pass for the same age as when the show started.

Combine that with the fact that Sara is a work-a-holic and he was thinking he'd have to retire, and I think the rift became wider.

ETA

I do believe this, though: GSR wasn't delayed due to lack of attraction or lack of interest. The beauty and grey hair comments are pretty much enough to confirm that.

Whether it be more immediate feelings for other people, job constraints or personal problems, I don't think that liking or not liking each other was ever the issue. Sara made that clear often, and Grissom's whole Butterflied speech was about how MUCH he wanted to be with her, but because of a lot of internal reasons, didn't think it was right.

I mean, he spoke of dating her like it would alter his entire life. I don't think picking up the cheque at Yogen Fruz and a movie date is a life-altering experience for a lot of guys. lol.
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i totally agree with all of that. i think he always thought she was pretty, but never ever thought he'd have her. and progressively as his feelings changed, he became hugely conflicted, and other things got on top of him, and it just took a long time for them both to come to the stage where they were both ready.

BUT, i think they had to have known each other after she was his student. in the first or second ep, when he said he was bringing her in, he said she was his good friend, and someone he trusted, that totally seemed to indicate they had more history, and had known each other longer than the time of which she was a student of his. you think? i mean im not sure.
 
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sunnydee said:
When Grissom goes on sabbatical, is he going AWAY away (ie. to another city/country/planet? Hehe, can you imagine Grissom in space? I digress) or is he just taking some time off (ie. sitting alone at home)?
this is my question too...where Gil Grissom will be? ... leaving las vegas... i'm still worry about Sara reaction...i meam is the first time off since when.... ever? if Sara will stay worry why now Grissom needs a break...and why out Las Vegas... i hope they answer that..so have any chance they have a goodbye scene?
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No one seems to know. lol. The original concept seemed to just have Grissom at UNLV teaching. Certainly that seemed to be the intent with the mini lecture he was doing in Toe Tags, and it would follow logic that he'd want to stay close to Vegas. However, with the title being LEAVING Las Vegas, and now new information from spoiler sources kind of referencing him packing up his things, I do get the sense that this was changed. Nothing, however, has been confirmed about a change in the script, but what seemed clear was that TPTB have finally realized that they're slipping in the ratings and seem to be going for a more dramatic goodbye.

do you think he HAD read it in a dirty magazine? haha. i wonder if it was the truth, what he told her about where he read it.
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Given Sara's sly comment about never having heard of it, I still think she didn't believe him. Grissom seemed pretty sure of himself, but doesn't he always?

I suppose the real question is this: what kind of publication is more LIKELY to publish a report about sex in airplanes? Hustler or a Forensic Journal?

repeat watches, i thought about how if that had been me in grissoms situation, with someone i maybe was attracted to-id be flustered. but Grissom seemed ice cool in that scene to me, didnt blush or anything.
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He gave her kind of a WTF face, though. And then sort of told her she had to process because she had all of the "expertise" - they were both flirting to a degree.
 
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CSI STAR'S SHOCKING EXIT...Sometimes it's the little things that are the biggest problems. I hear the miniature-making serial killer terrorizing the CSI gang this season will resurface in January..right around the same time William Petersen heads off to Providence, R.I. to star in the play "Dublin Carol" Executive Carol Mendolshon didn't say whether the little creep's return is connected to Grissom's two-episode sabbatical, hinting only that he'll need "a short break from the lab...and maybe a break from Sara too. He'll be gone just a few week's, but his office won't remain vacant in his absence. 'Indeed, sources say Mendolsohn is "this close" to signing a BIG name to temporarily fill Petersen's shoes. ....I hear Ray Liotta's free

Source..TV Guide.. The Ausiello Report
 
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A little off-topic, but I re-watched the scene from After the Show (I'm having a nightmere time with my Psych assignment and I needed a break), and I realized that it wasn't actually a direct insult to Sara when he asks for "the pretty one", though her expression indicates that she's taking it as one.

First off: her hair was AWFUL in that episode. That was during the horrid flat and pasty days. She was tired, barely any make-up, and what little she had was garrish. She was also dressed boyish.

This is a guy with a taste for showgirls. Flashy, take care of themselves, and overtly feminine and sexual. Sara in Season 4 was trying to hide herself, basically. Burying herself in work, not really seeming to care about her appearance, attempting to retreat from Grissom the more he seemed to be passing her over professionally and personally.

But what the guy actually says is that he'll talk to the woman in the next room - the pretty one. In fact, he's most likely insulting any other woman who happens to be in the NEXT room.

I think that he zeroes in on women and pretty much ignores all others.

Grissom's tastes, while he has gone for beautiful women (Teri Miller, Lady Heather, Sara), seem to be more in-depth after he's spoken with them. Teri had no problem with his turantula and had a great reputation. We also didn't see any real interest from Grissom in Lady Heather until they started talking about masks and so on. And with Sara... well, the assumption is probably that they've spoken plenty before the premiere.

In any case, I don't think that on a medium where appearance in women is almost a given, I don't think that should be the foundation of justifying a ship or saying that one female character is better than the next. Typically, if they're on TV, they're prettier than the average person.

But anyway... that whole episode was pretty much "Hate on Sara" anyway.

lol.

Thanks for posting the blurb, desertwind.
 
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I figured it out. I figured out what was bugging me about "Leaving Las Vegas." At this point, we have no indications of a, "Goodbye scene." I can deal with that, that's fine. But, I want something. And, I figured out what I want. I want Sara to find a small box in her locker, with a ladybug necklace (don't ask me why. It just feels like the kind of private joke the bugman and his girl would have) and a note that says, "Love, Gil." That's it. That's all I want. I don't need the big goodbye scene. I just want the audience and Sara to be assured that he loves this woman, and he's coming back for her... and I'd love to see him do something like that... to really think ahead and think of her.
 
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I really dont see TPTB leaving us with no GSR scenes regarding his departure, but depending on how JF plays the locker room scene with Sara and Nick that may give us something. They have given us a good amount so far and I think WP would push for some kind of something in regards to his departure and Gris & Saras relationship. I just hate hearing these things and having so many more questions especially when it is months away! haha! It drives me insane.
 
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