Grissom&Sara#22 - Tongues Cost More

[Desertwind]

Spoiler: Religious beliefs

In the next eppy, which I mentioned from the TV Guide. G/S come to terms with their religious beliefs, this will be interesting!! we've all heard his, from past episodes, but I don't think we've ever heard Sara's can't wait for this one

 

[Adzix]

How about shirtless makeouts after a good ol' D&M?

*gasp, thud and all the rest
leading to cardiac arrest*

Well the thing is, all of us who have been around here since at least the LAST summer hiatus (between seasons 5 & 6) remember that season 6 was meant to be 'The year of Grissom'. I think that if Gum Drops HAD gone to plan, it would have been. And we would have got around about the same kind of stuff that they're giving us/planning for 7 back then. Thing is, they couldn't give us the year of Grissom without his togetherness with Sara to open him up. Hence why, I believe, they thought "Fuck it, we can hold off until next year and have everything go to plan (fingers crossed) and in the mean time, just pepper a few cute/WTF/angst scenes between out geeks across the rest of the 6th season, up til the end when we'll blow the audience's mind with eyesex and bad shirts."

agreed. i think as GSR got postponed to the end of the season from its beginning, The Year of Grissom got postponed to S7. or maybe i just want to really believe in it.

Nah, it's not spoilerish. Though they do spell Sara with an H. *twitch*

thanks ts and sarah. voted. twice.

lol. Yeah, and because Gum Drops, no matter HOW well played, would always have resulted in people saying, "It was a pity lay, and then he was stuck with her". With the ending they chose... how can you say it's a pity lay when he's happily fully clothed on her bed and talking to her about his life choices?

and basically, having GSR uncovered for the audience in the beginning of the season wouldn't allow to make a deeper build-up. i mean, what would it come from? aight' - sushi, bite me and maybe one more scene we don't know about. and that would be it. i think it would be also too soon after GrDa (not too soon for G/S to get together, but too soon for the audience after the shocking S5 finale). but in fact it turned out to be revealed in the last ep of the season, thus we have bite me, ABRTI, thermite, grey hair, mouth to mouth, sara giggling at grissom's joke in ILTW, eyesex and more. so i think when TPTB decided to finally do it, and it didn't work out in GuDr, they decided to make more foreshadowing for us. and it worked well, really well.

yay, MissDee, thanks for the awesome essay. i basically agree to everything you said

That’s right – Adzix, Ziggy, theatresporter, Gillian, my other spoiler-free friends… you are not alone. *hugs them in solidarity*

that's right, go spoiler - free! oh, ts, didn't know you're s-f too. heck yeah, we've got Da Willpower. *hugs y'all back*

Be kind - it's a bit muddy.

Ramble - Rated G

wow, it was really good sarah. i liked it a lot. it's getting harder to find good GSR ff these days though. there are only a couple of established authors that i love, but i basically already read all i wanted.

 

[theatresporter]

YAY MISS DEE!

I love oldschoolers. Most of them are gone COME BACK GRISSLY / FOGI / TURTLE / ...everyone else (and stay with us, Miss Dee - staaaayyyyyy)

Adzix, Ziggy, theatresporter, Gillian, my other spoiler-free friends… you are not alone. *hugs them in solidarity*

Wait, what?

oh, ts, didn't know you're s-f too. heck yeah, we've got Da Willpower. *hugs y'all back*

On the one hand I don't wanna reject all these hugs, but on the other..?

ts is just ribbing me about dropping out of the spoil-free finale club ridiculously early last year. She's 100% spoiled.

It's true. I'm a spoiler whore these days. Though I do know one woman who'd have my head on a plate if I wasn't, so it's either spoilers OR DEATH. You choose.

And actually, I was more ribbing Ziggy for teasing me while I was spoiler free (I'm sure you would have too, had we had much chance to talk) but this explaination works too

Here's one GSR scene I think they missed the boat on that I would've liked - Sara watching him teach with a smile on her face, or him passing a look to her like "Remember when that was you?" when the girl starts asking questions. Just finding a way for Sara to be down there. Like, "Just checking on my DB" or whatever

No, I agree. I was half expecting a reference-to-Sara-as-a-student when Grissom was being all teachery, too. Maybe one of the students asking how easy it is to get jobs once you've finished your studies, and Grissom saying something like "Well actually one of my former students now works in the lab with me" or whatever. I mean I know he was never her full-time tutor, it was only that one-off seminar, but still.

*gasp, thud and all the rest
leading to cardiac arrest*

Uh oh...*backs away from the body slowly then runs like hell to escape any blame*

 

[greenplastic]

lol. Yeah, and because Gum Drops, no matter HOW well played, would always have resulted in people saying, "It was a pity lay, and then he was stuck with her". With the ending they chose... how can you say it's a pity lay when he's happily fully clothed on her bed and talking to her about his life choices?

I'm not sure I understand why it would have been a pity lay, though, in the Gum Drops circumstance.

That’s okay – I’ve been spending my time in Smallville. I can't help it. God help me, I’m Lexified. I believe that Michael Rosenbaum has developed his own strain of WPHS, naughty boy….

I understand this... very much...

 

[Alyssa]

I think what I like most about the missing "Sushi" scene from ABRTI is that it is the most frank we've ever seen Grissom about their relationship. He flat out told her what he was thinking, and what he was feeling. Yes, it took talking a bit about other things for him to muster up the courage, but he did it. Also, it's sorta touching. He paid for her check, which shows consideration and the desire to be chivalrous. He also remembers her vegetarianism, which pleases her.

ALSO, he asked where she was. He sought her out. He didn't wait for her to mosey into his office so they could talk about "this." He tracked her down because he wanted to talk about what happened. He wanted to address it. Him going to her apartment in "Nesting Dolls" was a huge thing, because he sought her out to deal with the issue. I guess that's a lot of why I like the missing Sushi scene. Grissom took initiative, and I know so many of us were screaming for that last season... I really, really wish this scene had survived!

 

[Adzix]

Wait, what?

i knew you're weak as spagetti.

Uh oh...*backs away from the body slowly then runs like hell to escape any blame*

i'm gonna haunt all three of you anyway.

ok, i just HAVE to post this. here:

 

[sarahvma]

agreed. i think as GSR got postponed to the end of the season from its beginning, The Year of Grissom got postponed to S7. or maybe i just want to really believe in it.

Or that they always planned to reveal it at the end of the season, but didn't want the hints to swamp the show itself. I mean, both of those scenes - Gum Drops and now the ABRTI 2 would've been pretty anvilly. And yes, we would've loved them at the time, but where could they have gone from there?

Just like with LH, you KNOW they had sex in that room. So that's not a mystery. From there, will it seem like they're together? Will it not? And ABRTI 2 makes it sound like he's sleeping with her, but doesn't know where she eats lunch and has to ask Greg.

Why not just call her?

The plot holes, or just the fast pacing, while at the time - great - would've gotten them into a fast mess, as we've seen with the Tina debaucle.

So yay for diminished GSR.

wow, it was really good sarah. i liked it a lot. it's getting harder to find good GSR ff these days though. there are only a couple of established authors that i love, but i basically already read all i wanted.

lol. Thanks. But yeah - I am trying to get back into the swing of writing and find a good new beta permanently. I'm kind of "camping out at friends' houses" beta-wise at the moment.

No, I agree. I was half expecting a reference-to-Sara-as-a-student when Grissom was being all teachery, too. Maybe one of the students asking how easy it is to get jobs once you've finished your studies, and Grissom saying something like "Well actually one of my former students now works in the lab with me" or whatever. I mean I know he was never her full-time tutor, it was only that one-off seminar, but still.

But then if we had that, we probably couldn't have the chain saw scenes, and I did love the adorableness of those.

It's a word!

Uh oh...*backs away from the body slowly then runs like hell to escape any blame*

Performs lifesaving CPR (I wrote GSR the first time. lol.) and glares at TS.

I'm not sure I understand why it would have been a pity lay, though, in the Gum Drops circumstance.

Because I think with these two, given how much Grissom has said no or pulled away, no matter what he was really feeling, if ALL we saw was him just knocking on her door in the middle of the night and her letting him in, without any explanation... I think people would doubt his motives if we'd never heard him coming to her at last, admitting he loves/likes her and asking to date her.

I think what I like most about the missing "Sushi" scene from ABRTI is that it is the most frank we've ever seen Grissom about their relationship. He flat out told her what he was thinking, and what he was feeling.

True. That may be, more than a lot of normal couple-y things, what I really want from GSR - Grissom sitting down and saying to Sara or whomever (if he chooses to expose it) that he loves her and that he's chosen to be with her out of free will, and not boredom or pity or desire.

And Sara, of course, but because she's always been the one to stride forward before, unless it was an emergency situation, I think it's important for us to see Grissom say that. Even if we know it's true.

Grissom took initiative

Again, true. But allow me to point out that when it came to post-shift lounging, he was in HER apartment. Which means two things: he had to come to her, and she had to let him in.

ok, i just HAVE to post this. here:

I love it.

 

[theatresporter]

i knew you're weak as spagetti.

Oh no you di'nt. I was strong as HELL over finale spoilers. Tell her, Sarah! I was ADAMANT not to be spoiled. And I stayed true right the way through til mid-AUGUST. That's right, bitches. Not only was I spoiler free BEFORE the episode aired, but I stayed spoiler free AFTER it aired for almost 3 WHOLE MONTHS until I could see the episode.

That ain't weak

But I'm very serious right now - if I even try to go spoiler free this season, I AM going to be murdered. I might even get murdered for talking about it *shifty eyes*

Performs lifesaving CPR (I wrote GSR the first time. lol.) and glares at TS.

Way to do that just so you could make out with her, ho. You were meant to step aside and wait for Grissom to save Adz! He's pretty good at mouth to mouth, y'know. And now you've taken away her chances of getting to experience them first hand.

Shame on you, Sar. What kind of friend are you?

Why not just call her?

You're a woman, you should know these things! TURNING UP means so much more. I "psshht" calls from men who fuck me around. But if they actually turn up? Well hey, bonus points to them. And yes, that includes calling to find out where I am and them coming over. FIND OUT YOUR DAMN SELF.

Ahem.

SO...

I think what I like most about the missing "Sushi" scene from ABRTI is that it is the most frank we've ever seen Grissom about their relationship. He flat out told her what he was thinking, and what he was feeling. Yes, it took talking a bit about other things for him to muster up the courage, but he did it.

I dunno. To me, it sounded a bit TOO frank for Grissom, y'know? I kinda half expect him to be in tights and a cape, lifting Sara above the clouds of Metropolis when he says that line about her being angry making him feel closer to her.

Seemed a bit OOC, and I think had the sushi scene gone to air, they would have reworded it. Billy probably would have made sure of that at least (of course this is all just IMO)


Oh, and Adzix? I adore that icon <3 Bug eyed Grissom FTW.

 

[Alyssa]

theatresporter said:
I dunno. To me, it sounded a bit TOO frank for Grissom, y'know? I kinda half expect him to be in tights and a cape, lifting Sara above the coulds of Metropolis when he says that line about her being angry making him feel closer to her.

I definitely agree some rewording would have been needed, but I'm looking at the statement itself, of Grissom actually ADDRESSING what's going on between them. Gris talks in circles a lot, and I would love to see him just, directly, say what's going on.

 

[theatresporter]

I definitely agree some rewording would have been needed, but I'm looking at the statement itself, of Grissom actually ADDRESSING what's going on between them. Gris talks in circles a lot, and I would love to see him just, directly, say what's going on.

Oh, I totally agree. And as someone who has had much experience with men who talk in circles, I'm sure Sara (and our fanbase) would have been absolutely floored by him saying something like that.

It would be really great, even now, for him to address something like that. Finally say things clear and aloud, more than just his "I need you" from previous seasons. Sara's put herself out there to him enough times - I'd love to see him do the same.

 

[Adzix]

Or that they always planned to reveal it at the end of the season, but didn't want the hints to swamp the show itself. I mean, both of those scenes - Gum Drops and now the ABRTI 2 would've been pretty anvilly. And yes, we would've loved them at the time, but where could they have gone from there?

okey, can somebody give an exact, full description of the unaired sushi scene with everything related?

Performs lifesaving CPR (I wrote GSR the first time. lol.) and glares at TS.

thank you muh savior! though you just saved my life cuz you've got dirty conscience (torture, blackmail etc)

Oh no you di'nt. I was strong as HELL over finale spoilers. Tell her, Sarah! I was ADAMANT not to be spoiled. And I stayed true right the way through til mid-AUGUST. That's right, bitches. Not only was I spoiler free BEFORE the episode aired, but I stayed spoiler free AFTER it aired for almost 3 WHOLE MONTHS until I could see the episode.

okey, if that's true, i was wrong. you're not weak but tough like a frozen spagetti.

Way to do that just so you could make out with her, ho. You were meant to step aside and wait for Grissom to save Adz! He's pretty good at mouth to mouth, y'know. And now you've taken away her chances of getting to experience them first hand.

Shame on you, Sar. What kind of friend are you?

for the first time, i just don't know how to comment this. i know i posted my 1 pic on photos thread like 2/3 months ago but i didn't know i am so crushable. and oh, good lord, did you just imply that Grissom would make out with me? omg *dies*

I love it.

Oh, and Adzix? I adore that icon <3 Bug eyed Grissom FTW.

thank you i just couldn't help myself.

 

[MacsGirlMel]

Nice fic

What was the missing ABRTI scene? You have me curious when there's GSR involved lol. About the tai chi, don't think I like the pants as discussed but it's sometimes hot when the couple is doing it....don't know how Sara'd look but shirtless Gris...*swoon*

Spoiler: New spoiler

YTDAW says there's gonna be a GSR KIss....*dances for joy* But I can't link without it showing up even with spoiler quotes, darnit.

 

[sarahvma]

Tell her, Sarah! I was ADAMANT not to be spoiled.

Never have I seen such foolhardy - I mean impressive - dedication.

She turned down spoilers after they aired in Europe and NZ because she missed the episodes there. That was in, like, August.

So FIE on your spaghetti.

And I hope Billy remains completely fully-clothed from the head to toe in a Birka for the rest of the show just for your comments!

Okay, that one's for Ziggy too.

But I'm very serious right now - if I even try to go spoiler free this season, I AM going to be murdered. I might even get murdered for talking about it *shifty eyes*

The family will see to things.

Way to do that just so you could make out with her, ho. You were meant to step aside and wait for Grissom to save Adz! He's pretty good at mouth to mouth, y'know. And now you've taken away her chances of getting to experience them first hand.

Shame on you, Sar. What kind of friend are you?

You've discovered my sinister plan.

Mwahahah

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*cough*

You're a woman, you should know these things! TURNING UP means so much more. I "psshht" calls from men who fuck me around. But if they actually turn up? Well hey, bonus points to them. And yes, that includes calling to find out where I am and them coming over. FIND OUT YOUR DAMN SELF.

I just meant to find out where she was. And then he could hang up that phone and RUN

(or catch a ride on an ice cream truck. Ziggy will get that. No, it's not a fat joke).

I dunno. To me, it sounded a bit TOO frank for Grissom, y'know? I kinda half expect him to be in tights and a cape, lifting Sara above the clouds of Metropolis when he says that line about her being angry making him feel closer to her.

"Grissom" would've been more:

GRISSOM: You being angry, it um...
SARAH: ...?
GRISSOM: At me, I mean...
SARAH: ...
GRISSOM: I... it, um. I feel closer. To you. I have to go...

okey, can somebody give an exact, full description of the unaired sushi scene with everything related?

Just about the entire script is posted at YTDAW. Unfortunately, it's in the spoiler section, but if you close your eyes and navigate to a spot called "before veggie burgers, there was sushi" - it doesn't spoil you about anything else, and it was one of the first things spoiled.

It's all after-the-fact spoils.

did you just imply that Grissom would make out with me?

In order to save your life. So he could make love to you.

I mean, if it's a fantasy, why not really take it home?

 

[greenplastic]

Because I think with these two, given how much Grissom has said no or pulled away, no matter what he was really feeling, if ALL we saw was him just knocking on her door in the middle of the night and her letting him in, without any explanation... I think people would doubt his motives if we'd never heard him coming to her at last, admitting he loves/likes her and asking to date her.

OH! Yeah definitely. Actually, I would just assume he was, no other way to say this, horny... knocking on her door late at night like that, lol. So yeah, I wouldn't have taken it seriously without knowing for sure they were together.

But instead, I believe they were together by Bite Me, and Gum Drops is after Bite Me. And if they were suppose to be together by Bite Me (let's just say for arguments sake they were) then it might have been their first night together. Unfortunately it never actually aired so we're never going to know, but that is the way I like to look at it.

Although I like it to rain GSR normally, and I would have loved the sushi scene, I agree that it would have been slightly out of place. One, because I don't know why she would have been so mad at him and two, because it would have been really odd viewing it not knowing FOR SURE they were together. I guess it would have depended on Sara's reaction to him though, kind of like the Poppin' Tags "mouth to mouth" line. Obviously, they were together by then but the way Sara looks at him tends to negate that. She looks kind of like "WTF did he just say. that was weird." whereas if they were together I would expect her to smile and laugh.

Totally reading way into that, I know, and now I'm rambling so I'm gonna stop, lol

 

[sarahvma]

OH! Yeah definitely. Actually, I would just assume he was, no other way to say this, horny... knocking on her door late at night like that, lol. So yeah, I wouldn't have taken it seriously without knowing for sure they were together.

Right. Given how comfortable he is the next morning, it'll be obvious it wasn't a one-night stand, but past that... it would feel like, without knowing where they were, that they might be rushing past the explanations to just go for the sex.

She love him long time, but still.

I do think that it would've been their first night together.

As Gibby said, why else would Grissom need to have an excuse to come to her room? If they were already sleeping together, I think it would've been more along the lines of, "He's finally asleep".

But Sara, who as we know from Bite Me, was ready to move the relationship forward is kind of, "Yeah. Whatever. Come in and take off your pants" with the no dialogue and opening of the door. She gets it. She's not stupid - no matter how hard Greg snores, there would've been at least one other male CSI whose room he could knock on and that would've been more appropriate from a pure boss/subordinate standpoint.

As for Poppin' Tags, I read Sara's face more as "My God does he confuse me". Or that she's surprised he's doing this at work. Or that he's being so giddy.